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This story just ticks me off

OBIO

Retired SOH Admin
This news story

http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=903780

really got under my skin. One High School basket ball team beat another 100 to 0....and somehow the winning team is at fault for not backing off and give the losing team a chance. PULEEEEEESE! The poor victim (losing team) just feels so humiliated that the monster (winning team) has been asked to forfeit the win because they whooped ARSE. Time for all the psychobabolists and do-good bleeding hearts to yank their collective heads out of their collective butts and get real.

OBIO
 
The way I read the article, it appears to be the winning team that now feels bad about the lopsided victory and wants to forfeit. Maybe they should've shown that spirit of Christian charity when the score was 50-0, before the fans started rooting for a 100-point game. As for the losers, they should admit that they suck, take the loss and and decline any guilt-induced forfeit offer by the victors.
 
The way I read the article, it appears to be the winning team that now feels bad about the lopsided victory and wants to forfeit. Maybe they should've shown that spirit of Christian charity when the score was 50-0, before the fans started rooting for a 100-point game. As for the losers, they should admit that they suck, take the loss and and decline any guilt-induced forfeit offer by the victors.

:applause::applause::applause:
 
"Dallas Academy has eight girls on its varsity team and about 20 girls in its high school. It is winless over the last four seasons. The academy boasts of its small class sizes and specializes in teaching students struggling with "learning differences," such as short attention spans or dyslexia."

As far as I can see the crunch lies in that the school that was owned has handicapped students. Bear in mind that these are not professional NBA players who deserve a hefty kick in the ass if they loose 100 - 0!

I can understand that the winning team got carried away (after all, when do you get the chance for such a roll?) but began to feel a bit of remorse after the adrenaline wore off...

"In the statement on the Covenant Web site, Queal said the game "does not reflect a Christ-like and honorable approach to competition. We humbly apologize for our actions and seek the forgiveness of Dallas Academy, TAPPS and our community." " This a quote from an official of the winning school!!!
 
Hey All,

Nobody should be proud of a 100pt win over handicapped people unless it's another equally handicapped team. Are people today really feeling the pressure of competition and the need to win that bad? If so the world is not a better place than it was 40 years ago - nobody's fault but ours.

-Ed-
 
If Dallas Academy has not won a game in four seasons, perhaps the players have learning disabilities which make it difficult for them to focus on playing the game at 100%. No sports team should be "set up" to fail. That reflects poorly on the school and especially the coaching staff.
 
"Dallas Academy has eight girls on its varsity team and about 20 girls in its high school. It is winless over the last four seasons. The academy boasts of its small class sizes and specializes in teaching students struggling with "learning differences," such as short attention spans or dyslexia."

As far as I can see the crunch lies in that the school that was owned has handicapped students. Bear in mind that these are not professional NBA players who deserve a hefty kick in the ass if they loose 100 - 0!

I can understand that the winning team got carried away (after all, when do you get the chance for such a roll?) but began to feel a bit of remorse after the adrenaline wore off...

"In the statement on the Covenant Web site, Queal said the game "does not reflect a Christ-like and honorable approach to competition. We humbly apologize for our actions and seek the forgiveness of Dallas Academy, TAPPS and our community." " This a quote from an official of the winning school!!!

Given all the parameters described above, don't think it has anything to do with left or right-wing politics as some folks have implied. It's just a matter of class and sportsmanship shown by the winning team after the game was over. Something that's increasingly rare in sports these days. Kudos to Covenant. :applause:
 
When I was playing basketball in HS, the few times we were on the winning side of a runaway game, our coach would take out the first stringers and let those of us who normally rode the pine get into the game. That had the effect of stopping a runaway game and giving the losing side a chance of making a better showing.
 
When I played school football, we got the crap kicked out of us one game 52-0 and another time 48-8. Were we that sorry of a team? Hell no! The problem was we failed as a team to carry out all that our coach taught us. It wasn't his fault or the opposing teams fault. Was ours and only ours. At first, we held our heads low but after that with the coach pushing us, we never lost another game. In competition, losing is not a bad thing so long as your effort was equal to your victors. Never give up!
 
This news story

http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=903780

really got under my skin. One High School basket ball team beat another 100 to 0....and somehow the winning team is at fault for not backing off and give the losing team a chance. PULEEEEEESE! The poor victim (losing team) just feels so humiliated that the monster (winning team) has been asked to forfeit the win because they whooped ARSE. Time for all the psychobabolists and do-good bleeding hearts to yank their collective heads out of their collective butts and get real.

OBIO

I couldn't agree with you more here, OBIO.

IMHO.... Winning isn't everything, it's the ONLY thing, and loosing is nothing. In this day and age it's all about "feel good".

Cheers -- BB686:USA-flag:
 
Hey All,

http://highschool.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=903780

DALLAS -- A Texas high school girls basketball team on the winning end of a 100-0 game has a case of blowout remorse.

Now officials from The Covenant School say they are trying to do the right thing by seeking a forfeit and apologizing for the margin of victory.

Samantha Peloza grabs a rebound in practice a week after their 100-0 win.
"It is shameful and an embarrassment that this happened," Kyle Queal, the head of the school, said in a statement, adding the forfeit was requested because "a victory without honor is a great loss."

Good Job Mr Queal. Vince Lombadi's quote is a bad metaphor for life - if you think about it - in the end we all tie.

-Ed-
 
Hey All,

Nobody should be proud of a 100pt win over handicapped people unless it's another equally handicapped team. Are people today really feeling the pressure of competition and the need to win that bad? If so the world is not a better place than it was 40 years ago - nobody's fault but ours.

-Ed-

Ed, I totally agree with you!
 
I couldn't agree with you more here, OBIO.

IMHO.... Winning isn't everything, it's the ONLY thing, and loosing is nothing. In this day and age it's all about "feel good".

Cheers -- BB686:USA-flag:

An easy win gives little satisfaction, a winning a hard-fought game is what makes me feel good. Beating the crap out of an unequal opponent makes you a bully - I guess that is why the winning team felt bad. Not because they won but how they won.
 
The losing team had learning disabilities and problems paying attention...not missing limbs or blindness. There was apparently nothing wrong with them physically..or nothing stated as such in the article. When I was growing up, back when alcoholism was a social maladjustment and not a "disease", when people who spilled hot coffee on themselves were not awarded tons on money for trying to drive and drive hot coffee at the same time, when the funny pages were funny and not politically correct and tainted with Prozac....the word "handicapped" applied to a heck of a lot fewer conditions than it does today. Now, everyone with a mole on their left foot is handicapped, everyone with one nostral larger than the other is handicapped, everyone with a crooked tooth is handicapped.

Back then, someone with a learning disability was told to try harder in school, someone with attention disorders was told to pay attention....not given drugs and special treatment. I don't think the words Attention Deficit Disorder even existed back in those days, at least not in the poor Apalachian county I grew up in. Heck, I had severe speech problems and dislexia...and no one considered me to be disabled. I was sent to speech therapy for 2 hours a day, 4 days a week. I was given metal retraining to improve my ability to read and write "normally"....I was not put into special classes so that I could receive an education...I was given tools to cope with my severe stuttering, my backwards reading, and my way wonky hand writing. I wan't disabled, I played baseball, football, soccer, basketball, went hunting and fishing...and if I lost a game, or if I missed a shot at a buck...I didn't becry my disabilities...I practiced my batting more, I practiced my layups more, I spent more time with my bow in hand putting arrows into an old pie plate.

I just don't comprehend all this ballyhoo that the winning team should have back off their game to give the loosers a chance to look better. What bunk! That is the kind of "competitive thinking" that has seen the US become less competitive in the world markets, why the American scholastics level has declined over the last 10, 15 years....we used to be one of the top ranked nations in terms of academic standards....take a look at where we are today.

This whole "feel good", "poor me, I'm a victim" and "It's not my fault I'm fat, drunk, ugly, stupid, pregnent, poor, lazy, uneducated (the list goes on and on for all the things that are now "diseases" and "disabilities)" is not going to produce the kind of scientists, leaders, teachers, thinkers, inventors that will keep America strong. It will only result in a nation full of fat, lazy, drunk, depressed "victims" popping Prozac and other "feel good" pills and drawing Social Security due to their "disabilites".

A couple years ago, I worked with a young woman whose boyfriend, who had just gotten out of jail for the third time...was awarded Social Security Disability because he could not work due to having a pin in this thumb...yet that pin in his thumb did not prevent him from selling drugs and committing burglaries. This mid-20s dope dealer got a monthly check, yet a lady that I know, who has lost her right foot and half her left leg to diabetes, was denied Social Security because she wasn't disabled enough.

OBIO
 
Hey All,

Nobody said the world was fair - so work hard at making it fairer by treating more people right - not less.

-Ed-
 
The losing team had learning disabilities and problems paying attention...not missing limbs or blindness. There was apparently nothing wrong with them physically..or nothing stated as such in the article. When I was growing up, back when alcoholism was a social maladjustment and not a "disease", when people who spilled hot coffee on themselves were not awarded tons on money for trying to drive and drive hot coffee at the same time, when the funny pages were funny and not politically correct and tainted with Prozac....the word "handicapped" applied to a heck of a lot fewer conditions than it does today. Now, everyone with a mole on their left foot is handicapped, everyone with one nostral larger than the other is handicapped, everyone with a crooked tooth is handicapped.

Back then, someone with a learning disability was told to try harder in school, someone with attention disorders was told to pay attention....not given drugs and special treatment. I don't think the words Attention Deficit Disorder even existed back in those days, at least not in the poor Apalachian county I grew up in. Heck, I had severe speech problems and dislexia...and no one considered me to be disabled. I was sent to speech therapy for 2 hours a day, 4 days a week. I was given metal retraining to improve my ability to read and write "normally"....I was not put into special classes so that I could receive an education...I was given tools to cope with my severe stuttering, my backwards reading, and my way wonky hand writing. I wan't disabled, I played baseball, football, soccer, basketball, went hunting and fishing...and if I lost a game, or if I missed a shot at a buck...I didn't becry my disabilities...I practiced my batting more, I practiced my layups more, I spent more time with my bow in hand putting arrows into an old pie plate.

I just don't comprehend all this ballyhoo that the winning team should have back off their game to give the loosers a chance to look better. What bunk! That is the kind of "competitive thinking" that has seen the US become less competitive in the world markets, why the American scholastics level has declined over the last 10, 15 years....we used to be one of the top ranked nations in terms of academic standards....take a look at where we are today.

This whole "feel good", "poor me, I'm a victim" and "It's not my fault I'm fat, drunk, ugly, stupid, pregnent, poor, lazy, uneducated (the list goes on and on for all the things that are now "diseases" and "disabilities)" is not going to produce the kind of scientists, leaders, teachers, thinkers, inventors that will keep America strong. It will only result in a nation full of fat, lazy, drunk, depressed "victims" popping Prozac and other "feel good" pills and drawing Social Security due to their "disabilites".

A couple years ago, I worked with a young woman whose boyfriend, who had just gotten out of jail for the third time...was awarded Social Security Disability because he could not work due to having a pin in this thumb...yet that pin in his thumb did not prevent him from selling drugs and committing burglaries. This mid-20s dope dealer got a monthly check, yet a lady that I know, who has lost her right foot and half her left leg to diabetes, was denied Social Security because she wasn't disabled enough.

OBIO

That is bad! Of course you are right, the "handicapped" label is being totally overused today with many just cashing in on it instead of working on improving themselves - and then distracting from the really needy. But IMO we still have to give people the benefit of the doubt for each case instead of labelling them as slackers who should have worked harder and thus deserved what they got.

I don't think the winning team should forfeit the game, that is just BS (and probably due to the out-of-control social principle you see). But an apology for bad sportsmanship is fair. They just should have left it at that!
 
I think both teams are winners. The losers kept playing despite the runaway game. Kudos to both teams.

Ben
 
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