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GA_C46_v2 conversion

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braveheart77521

SOH-CM-2023
I recently downloaded and converted Tom Gibson's 2004 Curtiss Commando (GA_C46_v2) to CFS2. I used a DP from Sopwith Cameleon"s C-46. It works except for the wheels. It also has problems with the auto pilot. SC's C-46 doesn't have a vcpanel. That's what I was looking for when I converted the 2004 c-46. Does anyone have a conversion or vc panel or both for these planes?

Braveheart
 
I would like a panel with a vcpanel for sopwith chameleon's c-46, if someone has one? The GA c46 needs an aircraft folder that corrects the wheels down problem, SC uses a different type of gear.

Braveheart
 
Need contact point help

I have completed adapting a c-47 air and DP file to the GA_C-46 conversion (It is in the library under FS2004 military). However, I am having some problems with the gear, primarily the main gear. It is tilting at about a 45 degree angle (main shaft). I need to move it vertical. I need to know what each contact point controls or does. Can anyone explain this to me or has some literature that explains it?

Braveheart
 
Braveheart,

A few aircraft.cfg files have the notation as follows (taken from Shessi's Whitley GRVII):

[contact_points]
//0 Class
//1 Longitudinal Position (feet) FRONT +ive, BACK -ive
//2 Lateral Position (feet) PORT -ive, STBD +ive
//3 Vertical Position (feet) UP +ive, DOWN -ive
//4 Impact Damage Threshold (Feet Per Minute)
//5 Brake Map (0=None, 1=Left, 2=Right)
//6 Wheel Radius (feet)
//7 Steer Angle (degrees)
//8 Static Compression (feet) (0 if rigid)
//9 Max/Static Compression Ratio
//10 Damping Ratio (0=Undamped, 1=Critically Damped)
//11 Extension Time (seconds)
//12 Retraction Time (seconds)
//13 Sound Type


point.0= 1, -37.380, 0.000, -5.500, 1200, 0, 0.600, 45.000, 0.420, 2.500, 0.870, 0.000, 0.000, 0
point.1= 1, 2.700, -9.400, -8.400, 1600, 1, 2.100, 0.000, 0.500, 2.500, 0.850, 4.200, 5.200, 2, 152.0, 200.0
point.2= 1, 2.700, 9.400, -8.400, 1600, 2, 2.100, 0.000, 0.500, 2.500, 0.850, 4.500, 5.800, 3, 152.0, 200.0
point.3= 2, 22.200, 0.000, -1.900, 800, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4
point.4= 2, -50.900, 0.000, 0.500, 800, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9
point.5= 2, 0.000, -42.000, 2.700, 800, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5
point.6= 2, 0.000, 42.000, 2.700, 800, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6
point.7= 2, 13.700, -9.300, -5.600, 800, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9
point.8= 2, 13.700, -9.300, -5.600, 800, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9
point.9= 2, -44.300, -7.500, 9.800, 800, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 7
point.10= 2, -44.300, 7.500, 9.800, 800, 0, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 8

static_pitch = 4.000
static_cg_height = 7.500
gear_system_type=1
tailwheel_lock =0
max_number_of_points=11

As I understand it class 1 is undercarriage wheel contact, class 2 is a scrape/crashcheck point.

I normally only fiddle with the first 3 points (undercarriage) & the 2nd,3rd & 4th entries on each line (these are the x,y,z axis coordinates). It sounds like you've just got muddled with the different axis'. Point 0 is usually the tailwheel, point 1 is the port gear & point 2 is the stbd gear.

Hope this helps.
 
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braveheart77521 said:
However, I am having some problems with the gear, primarily the main gear. It is tilting at about a 45 degree angle (main shaft). I need to move it vertical.Braveheart
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Which model is it bh? There are several in the zip file.
Can you post a screenshot of the problem gear?

Dave
 
The GA_C46_v2 contact points are fine. The problem is in the *.mdl file.
The keyframes have to be 0-100 + 200 in the*.sca file.
This one had some that started at 50-100. CFS2 does not recognize this format.

Here is a screenshot of the C-46 V2, using the original FS9 contact points.

C46_V2.jpg
 
braveheart77521 said:
How do I fix this to work in CFS2?

Braveheart
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First a scasm file needs to be created inside of MDLC. ( *.sca )
Double click on the cmd icon and type,

MDLC /a ???.mdl

The ? is where the name of the .mdl should be. Four characters or less.
I use the bearcat241 method. Rename the .mdl to X.mdl, easier to work with.

Try it and see what happens. If there's any problems...post them.

Dave
 
dvslats said:
First a scasm file needs to be created inside of MDLC. ( *.sca )
Double click on the cmd icon and type,

MDLC /a ???.mdl

The ? is where the name of the .mdl should be. Four characters or less.
I use the bearcat241 method. Rename the .mdl to X.mdl, easier to work with.

Try it and see what happens. If there's any problems...post them.

Dave
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when SCASM editing, how do you know which is the left and which is the right aileron?

I'm trying to convert a model and I've run into this issue.
 
Blood_Hawk23 said:
when SCASM editing, how do you know which is the left and which is the right aileron?

I'm trying to convert a model and I've run into this issue.
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Hi John,

Well, since no two .mdl's are alike, start by searching the *.sca (Ctrl + F), to see if there is a " left_ailer " anywhere inside the file.
If not, its probably set to a hex offset similar to " lever_stick_l_r " or " AILERON LEFT DEFLECTION#grads#-1#50 ".

This has to be determined first.
If the .mdl was made in FSDS, with ACM you can use the Groups drop down menu to search the part number also.
Gmax .mdl's are a bit more time consuming sine their part numbers usually do not show in sequence in ACM.

Remember that the numbering sequence with ACM starts at 1-infin.
With a .sca file, the sequence starts with 0-infin.
They will be one off of what shows.

Dave
 
Hey DV,

Here is the model I'm working on...

http://www.classicwings.net/lohner_l.html

It has the AILERON LEFT DEFLECTION#grads#-1#50 in the FS9 model and the lever_stick_l_r in the FS8. That is they are in the SCA files.

I have tried to convert it with MDLC but the Ailerons, elevator and rudder are frozen. I wanted to se if I could do s SCASM edit.

Well I was able to guess my way through but now I'm not able to get it back into CFS2. Would you mind looking at it and maybe walking me through? Or is this a case of needing rework in Gmax?
 
Hey John,

I took a look through the .sca on this one and it is beyond my capabilities.

What makes this one difficult is the fact that the control surfaces have external cables that are animated in conjunction with them.
Normally a transform mat would fix the control surfaces, but up to 23 parts are all tied together with keyframes anims.

Sorry, Dave
 
GA_C46_v2

Ok, All of the available animations are working. Plus those pesky landing lights are tucked away.

This one really has a nice VC with cargo area included. I do not have perms for this aircraft, so if you would like the converted *.mdl send me a PM with an e-mail address.
I'll send it as soon as possible.

C46_V2_Fixed.jpg


Cheers, Dave
 
dvslats said:
Ok, All of the available animations are working. Plus those pesky landing lights are tucked away.

This one really has a nice VC with cargo area included. I do not have perms for this aircraft.......

Cheers, Dave
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Hi Dave,
If You couldn't contact Libardo Guzman try to contact Tom Gibson (CalClassic).

:wavey::wavey::wavey::wavey:
 
Update

Hi All,

I just received a reply from Libardo. He said an upload of his model would be AoK.

Going to start on applying gauges to the panel. It's all that really needs to be done.

Cheerz, Dave
 
Ga_c46a

Dave

I have a panel for the GA_C46A that I have a few modifications I've made. I also have modified and added a air and DP file, so the auto pilot will work. It works on the conversion you sent me. I am using a modified main panel and added control columns. I will send them to you. It might save you some work.



Mack (Braveheart)
 
braveheart77521 said:
Dave

I have a panel for the GA_C46A that I have a few modifications I've made. I also have modified and added a air and DP file, so the auto pilot will work. It works on the conversion you sent me. I am using a modified main panel and added control columns. I will send them to you. It might save you some work.



Mack (Braveheart)
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It definitely will. :encouragement: Thanks Mack!

Dave
 
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