gray eagle
SOH-CM-2025
Well, maybe some of our talented painters here will use the paint kit that AH provided and just have a ball churning out other liveries.
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Well, maybe some of our talented painters here will use the paint kit that AH provided and just have a ball churning out other liveries.
gray eagle
SOH-CM-2025
External wind roar
I forgot to mention that when attempting start up in cockpit view and pressing the Electric start button then switching to external view, I can here that wind roar a little in the background as the engine is running. When I kill the engine (external view) everything is quiet. I noticed that in Tufun's startup vid that he manually cracked the throttle full open and then hit the start button.
I noticed that when I hit the electric start button the throttle will animated to the full open all on it's own while starting. Six of one and half dozen of 'nother.
Should the throttle be manually pushed full open first then the start button?
BTW, why the two starter buttons (One above the other) - electric starter switch and a conventional one.
EDIT: In spot view, if I hit the pause key, the wind noise is gone and all I hear is just the engine.
I forgot to mention that when attempting start up in cockpit view and pressing the Electric start button then switching to external view, I can here that wind roar a little in the background as the engine is running. When I kill the engine (external view) everything is quiet. I noticed that in Tufun's startup vid that he manually cracked the throttle full open and then hit the start button.
I noticed that when I hit the electric start button the throttle will animated to the full open all on it's own while starting. Six of one and half dozen of 'nother.
Should the throttle be manually pushed full open first then the start button?
BTW, why the two starter buttons (One above the other) - electric starter switch and a conventional one.
EDIT: In spot view, if I hit the pause key, the wind noise is gone and all I hear is just the engine.
heywooood
Mayor Emeritus of Taco City
for me, its not the throttle, but the Mixture (Red) lever that slides full forward to full rich...the Throttle lever (Black) stays put...
this also happens with the Globe Swift...the little Mixture knob moves inward to full rich when I activate the starter, I just move them back to the proper setting once the engine is running.
Note: the F3F can be started either with the electric starter or the original shotgun shell starter that was used to save weight
(its all in the manual - shhhh)
Aside from that. . .how'd you like the airplane?
DaveB
Charter Member
Sundog
SOH-CM-2025
hahahahaha.. that made me laugh
ATB
DaveB
Me too. I was also thinking, if someone is so upset about the textures, what's keeping them from making new ones? They did release it with a paint kit.
Also, I'm just happy to have a dedicated FSX version of this plane.
gray eagle
SOH-CM-2025
Yeah, your right, my bad, It is the Mixture lever. When I use the shotgun starter it will start (makes a brief whirring noise) then quit, every time I try using that upper starter button.
The bottom starter button (Electric start button) - no probs. Say, was there a shotgun bang sound when using the shotgun starter?
TuFun
Charter Member
gray eagle
SOH-CM-2025
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Ferry_vO
Retired SOH Administrator
gray eagle
SOH-CM-2025
Cart start
Okay, I figured it out. When I select cart start #25, then I use the same bottom button to start the plane I hear the shotgun and then it starts. I guess when you select elect
or cart start, the bottom start button is automatically configures as a elect/shotgun start. I had it set in elect start and lowered the #25 knob to manual start then tried the upper
button and there is where I realized what was going on. That one lower start button acts as a duel purpose start button when you either select #25 to elect or manual start.
That one start button acts as either elect/manual starter button based on which setting #25 is in was not clear enough for me to pick up on. The upper button is moot and will not
function as a starter button. Don't know why two start button were needed when the bottom one will convert to a electric switch or manual when you select the type of start you want (#25).
So I have had my Ah ha moment and all works well.
Okay, I figured it out. When I select cart start #25, then I use the same bottom button to start the plane I hear the shotgun and then it starts. I guess when you select elect
or cart start, the bottom start button is automatically configures as a elect/shotgun start. I had it set in elect start and lowered the #25 knob to manual start then tried the upper
button and there is where I realized what was going on. That one lower start button acts as a duel purpose start button when you either select #25 to elect or manual start.
That one start button acts as either elect/manual starter button based on which setting #25 is in was not clear enough for me to pick up on. The upper button is moot and will not
function as a starter button. Don't know why two start button were needed when the bottom one will convert to a electric switch or manual when you select the type of start you want (#25).
So I have had my Ah ha moment and all works well.
Mick
SOH-CM-2025
I'll start on this one...
Unlike the others, the markings seem basically correct. On this one it's the base color that's completely wrong. It's gray, when all real F3Fs were silver, at least until the advent of camouflage.
The other screenies show markings that make the planes appear to have been made up of pieces of several different aircraft glued together in some kind of Frankenliveries.
Then there's the ones that paint the plane in the markings of squadrons that never flew the type, like VF-7, which only flew the very different looking -1 version, with its completely different nose, tail and cockpit enclosure.
Did they paint it in Army colors this time? Last time they even painted it in Army colors!
You'd think a payware publisher would feel some sort of obligation to get it right, but apparently not.
TuFun
Charter Member
That's cause the alpha's are not applied hence the gray look. With alpha's that changes to silver.
heywooood
Mayor Emeritus of Taco City
Mick said: Then there's the ones that paint the plane in the markings of squadrons that never flew the type, like VF-7, which only flew the very different looking -1 version, with its completely different nose, tail and cockpit enclosure.
Did they paint it in Army colors this time? Last time they even painted it in Army colors!
You'd think a payware publisher would feel some sort of obligation to get it right, but apparently not.
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I think its a matter of creators license and not one of willful intent to harm or injure the sensibilities of the historical accuracy society.
The inclusion of the paint kit, as stated earlier makes this complaint moot at best.
No, there is no US Army paint scheme here, but as every aircraft was evaluated by every arm of the armed forces for viability, it is not outside the realm of possibility for one to have been painted thus.
I hope you are the only person who lacks the tolerance to perceive these original paint schemes as anything but acceptable - even as placeholders for the 3rd party artwork to follow - be patient man.
Did they paint it in Army colors this time? Last time they even painted it in Army colors!
You'd think a payware publisher would feel some sort of obligation to get it right, but apparently not.
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I think its a matter of creators license and not one of willful intent to harm or injure the sensibilities of the historical accuracy society.
The inclusion of the paint kit, as stated earlier makes this complaint moot at best.
No, there is no US Army paint scheme here, but as every aircraft was evaluated by every arm of the armed forces for viability, it is not outside the realm of possibility for one to have been painted thus.
I hope you are the only person who lacks the tolerance to perceive these original paint schemes as anything but acceptable - even as placeholders for the 3rd party artwork to follow - be patient man.
heywooood
Mayor Emeritus of Taco City
. The upper button is moot and will not
function as a starter button. Don't know why two start button were needed when the bottom one will convert to a electric switch or manual when you select the type of start you want (#25).
So I have had my Ah ha moment and all works well.
and...you beat me to it -
TuFun
Charter Member
Good reference on F3F 2-MF-16 U.S.Marines in gray colors...
http://www.detailandscale.com/f3f_grumman_biplane_fighter_detais_in_color_photo_set.html
http://www.detailandscale.com/f3f_grumman_biplane_fighter_detais_in_color_photo_set.html