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A Baker's Dozen of Stearman Repaints

Just a thought Butch..

Have a look at the panel.cfg and see if there's a Day/Night/Luminous section at the bottom. You can control (to some degree) how the panel and instruments are displayed by changing the values on each line. You'd be looking at the Night line in particular. If you have a similar model (similar lighting that is) that you like.. you could change the Night and/or Luminous sections on the GAS model panel.cfg to match. It's worth a try:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)
 
Bomber_12th said:
Stearman N2S-3, N44JP, owned/operated by John Parish of St. Louis, Missouri. The aircraft, originally manufactured as U.S. Navy BuNo. 43576, was based (at least for a time) at NAS Ottumwa, Iowa in 1944 and 1945. The aircraft was acquired by the Parish family in 1980 and was sent to RARE Aircraft for restoration around 2009, where it was completely restored to award-winning condition, completed in 2011. The aircraft is painted in authentic U.S. Navy markings circa early 1943.
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And this is the only one I really wanted to do at the start of it all, back in October...

Stearman N2S-1, N50061, owned/operated by Paul Ehlen and based at the Wings of the North Museum at Flying Cloud Airport, Eden Prairie, Minnesota. The aircraft, originally manufactured as U.S. Navy BuNo. 3347, is one of five Stearmans known to still exist that were flown by President George H. W. Bush as a cadet in the Navy. He flew this aircraft while training in the cold Minnesota winter at Wold-Chamberlain Airfield, Naval Air Station Minneapolis (modern-day KMSP), in January and early February 1943. The aircraft was sent to AirCorps Aviation for ground-up restoration in 2014, and emerged in 2015 as one of, if not the most period-authentic restored Stearmans to-date, restored to just as it was in 1943 (no electric starter (only hand-crank start) and no radios of any sort). The aircraft won "Best Stearman" at Oshkosh 2015.
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Hi John,
after seeing all these wonderful biplane repaints, I wonder if you would be interesting in repainting Anthony Lynch fantastic Tiger Moth like this:

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Best regards,

Stéph.
 

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What's the procedure to climb into the front seat of the GAS Stearman 75?




DaveB said:
Jump into the front cockpit Dave and you'll find it slightly better appointed. Agree with you though. A clock and a turn & slip don't seem of much use in the front when the pilot is in the back.

ATB
DaveB:)
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Butch..

I've just realised that the keystrokes you've been told to get into the front cockpit are default 'View Forward'. Not sure if this will help any but this is the camera view to do the same in the VS model..

[CameraDefinition.001]
Title = "FRONT Seat"
Guid = {195EAB58-9E4A-1E2A-A34C-A8D9D948F078}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = Yes
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.75
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.0, 0.00, 1.0
InitialPbh=8, 0, 0

You might be able to work it into the GAS camera defs to give you something a little more useable;)
ATB
DaveB:)
 
That works, now do I need one of these cameras to add in order to revert to pilot (back seat)? or....?
I found in the lights section of the aircraft cfg file a lights section and played around with one of the settings and managed to squelch the back seat red panel (red one in front still came on.

I think I might get the VS version tomorrow from PC Aviation - they sent me a coupon and there is a Tues 10% discount to boot; that way, I can add some of John's repaints (they look sharp)
and try them out. I would have a duplicity of Stearmans but hey, I can try out both and go from there. Thanks for your help Dave....:encouragement:




DaveB said:
Butch..

I've just realised that the keystrokes you've been told to get into the front cockpit are default 'View Forward'. Not sure if this will help any but this is the camera view to do the same in the VS model..

[CameraDefinition.001]
Title = "FRONT Seat"
Guid = {195EAB58-9E4A-1E2A-A34C-A8D9D948F078}
Origin = Virtual Cockpit
MomentumEffect = Yes
SnapPbhAdjust = Swivel
SnapPbhReturn = False
PanPbhAdjust = Swivel
PanPbhReturn = False
Track = None
ShowAxis = YES
AllowZoom = TRUE
InitialZoom = 0.75
SmoothZoomTime = 2.0
ZoomPanScalar = 1.0
ShowWeather = Yes
XyzAdjust = TRUE
ShowLensFlare=FALSE
Category = Cockpit
PitchPanRate=20
HeadingPanRate=60
InitialXyz=0.0, 0.00, 1.0
InitialPbh=8, 0, 0

You might be able to work it into the GAS camera defs to give you something a little more useable;)
ATB
DaveB:)
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I like the views you posted here. I may add the VS version tomorrow - BTW, that would be a bummer if you had a bird strike on the fuel tube hanging down from the upper wing there, and avgas would not
taste too good. :biggrin-new:

WarHorse47 said:
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Whoops. My bad. I wasn't looking at the front cockpit.

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If it's of any interest, the VS Stearman has more animations than the GAS Stearman such as the trainee in the front cockpit, etc. Again, both are great to have.
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With regard to the Vertigo Studios Stearman cockpits/instruments, it is accurate to the preserved/unrestored N2S-5 at the Smithsonian. There doesn't seem to have been a very standard setup when it comes to Stearman instrument panels and instruments themselves, which could have been determined by which individual role they were used in (solo, dual, instrument, night, etc.). Probably in a setup like this, it teaches and can test the trainee in the backseat to fly and coordinate the aircraft simply by feel, and the instructor in the front has what he needs to confirm if the pilot is flying properly coordinated or not.

(On a somewhat related note, I've read some stories about some of the first P-51B's to arrive in England, that when they were picked-up by their pilots from the depots, they only had mostly bare open holes in the panels with only a basic few instruments actually installed).

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By comparison, here is a photo I took of the restored cockpit of the George Bush N2S-1 Stearman (a much earlier variant, and restored to exact original specifications). Other than the presence of the turn/slip indicator in the back panel, the rest of the instrumentation is the same. This particular Stearman, we know thanks to Bush's logbook entries, was used for solo flying during its original training days (it couldn't be used for night training, as being as early as it was, it doesn't have any lights).

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Love 'em.

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This is my current desktop image. Taken at the Palm Springs Air Museum in 2015 during one of our vacations down south. :engel016:
 
it (lack of instruments) teaches and can test the trainee in the backseat to fly and coordinate the aircraft simply by feel
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Possibly, but I rather doubt it. After all, relying on seat of the pants feel rather than instruments is very much discouraged, and use of a turn and slip indicator is pretty important for judging the accuracy or otherwise of turns. Maybe a pupil could learn to judge the accuracy by the feel of the wind on his cheek, but the instrument would still be necessary while learning how it ought to feel in a good turn.

On another matter, would you IM me please, John, as I have some info I think you'd like.
 
dhasdell said:
Possibly, but I rather doubt it. After all, relying on seat of the pants feel rather than instruments is very much discouraged, and use of a turn and slip indicator is pretty important for judging the accuracy or otherwise of turns. Maybe a pupil could learn to judge the accuracy by the feel of the wind on his cheek, but the instrument would still be necessary while learning how it ought to feel in a good turn.

On another matter, would you IM me please, John, as I have some info I think you'd like.
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I'm guessing a yaw vane or similar would most likely be present if no actual turn/slip gauge.

John, how about turning your paintbrushes this way --> http://www.birdinabiplane.com/galleries/
(I've met the lady in person :) )

ttfn

Pete
 
With regard to the Vertigo Studios Stearman cockpits/instruments, it is accurate to the preserved/unrestored N2S-5 at the Smithsonian. There doesn't seem to have been a very standard setup when it comes to Stearman instrument panels
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When I posted that the shots I'd seen online all seemed to have a full set of instruments in the back.. I was fully aware that someone would post a shot to the contrary!!:biggrin-new: In the words of Bruce Hornsby.. that's just the way it is;)

I think I'd tend to agree with DaveH that teaching a new pilot to fly by feel wouldn't be considered good practice (at best) but back in the day.. who the hell knows. Likewise.. I think it's more likely (at least more desirable) to have a full set in the back which is where the pilot would be for solo flight IF that's all the aircraft is to be used for. The front could be stripped thereby saving a few dollars.

I do agree though that buyers could specify what instrument fit they required.

One thing I'm always cautious of though is not only restored museum pieces but museum pieces in general. Having been involved with Brooklands museum for years and have seen what is 'on view' at others.. I know not to trust what I see with my own eyes as being accurate.

@Butch.. no, you don't need another camera view to get back to the rear seat. I don't know where you fitted the new one in but it should be a matter of cycling through the views to get back;)
ATB
DaveB:)
 
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