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A Cat from Hell?
- Thread starter Dexdoggy
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peter12213
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This shows no feeling no movement to me personally, the scenery is great but the aircraft is a great but old offering and shows nothing new or interesting, don't stop taking or showing your shots, just try to show somthing thats alive and shows either the aircraft or the scenery off! You clearly have an eye for what is great about FSX so don't stop and show more! This is what was said to me a long time ago and a lesson well learned! :salute:
NickB
Charter Member
Nice shot. I still haven't decided about this model although I do particularly like the post war period aircraft/markings.
Having read Peters comments a few times, I don't think they were meant as harshly as they "sounded". It's a pretty good pic when you see it full size.
Having read Peters comments a few times, I don't think they were meant as harshly as they "sounded". It's a pretty good pic when you see it full size.
peter12213
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Yeah it wasn't meant to sound harsh so sorry if it did, I'd just personally look for close shots showing off the aircraft and scenery with good movement, it is a good shot I was just trying to give a few pointers thats all!
I did a minor bit of cropping. It looks like a Naval Reserve aircraft, from the yellow stripe on the fuselage. I would guess from about 1950. Why it's carrying a bomb is anybody's guess. I never, ever, saw a bomb loaded Hellcat. But after I got out eveything went to hell.
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peter12213
FSX Acceleration!
To be honest that was bugging me too!
Why it was a fighter bomber it could take bombs and rockets , unless all the info found via google is wrong of course
peter12213
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As far as my research got these never used bombs in action in the war only rockets and guns and as far as my reading got, the performance drop by carting underwing ordanace was universally hated due to range limitations and lack of maneuverability as the punch of the 6 fifties were more than enough for small ships/troops and by the time we won air superiority and at that stage of the war there were better types to carry bombs leaving Hellcats to perform there role as top cover/ minor strafing for such opperations, the Corsair however was very much a rocket carrier as it had the performance required to carry and still reach a decent range while loaded!
A little more reading and googling required, it seems Hellcats dropped 6500 tons of bombs in the ground attack role.
Read operational history
http://www.howitflies.com/Grumman-F6F-Hellcat
Read operational history
http://www.howitflies.com/Grumman-F6F-Hellcat
Well, I read your operational history and I did not see where "6500 tons of bombs" were used except for drones in the Korean war. I stand by my statement. I've seen many thousands of Hellcats on land and aboard carriers and sat in a couple dozen and I never saw a single one carry bombs.
Rockets yes, but no bombs.
Rockets yes, but no bombs.
Helldiver is spot-on with the loadout of the F6F. Although the Hellcat could carry bombs, doing so was rare. The Hellcat was operated primarily by the U.S. Navy as a fighter, not a fighter-bomber. The Marines used the Corsair as a fighter-bomber and the USN did likewise with the Corsair in 1945 and during the Korean War. Post-war, which is how the F6F is depicted in this screen shot, a Hellcat in reserve duty might have been seen with a drop tank and sometimes with rockets, but not bombs. A few F6F-5K's were equipped with bombs and flown via remote control into bridges during the Korean war.
As for the tonnage of bombs dropped by Hellcats, perhaps that figure includes British use in WW II and French use in Indochina.
I did find one picture of a Hellcat in U.S. service carrying a bomb. Unfortunately, the picture is not dated nor does it have unit information, but there is one bomb attached to starboard shackle.
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Information like this is never put in the documentation that comes with either plastic model kits or computer sim aircraft.
I think it is a nice screen shot, but we have effectively picked it to death. My apologies if I have offended anyone.
As for the tonnage of bombs dropped by Hellcats, perhaps that figure includes British use in WW II and French use in Indochina.
I did find one picture of a Hellcat in U.S. service carrying a bomb. Unfortunately, the picture is not dated nor does it have unit information, but there is one bomb attached to starboard shackle.
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Information like this is never put in the documentation that comes with either plastic model kits or computer sim aircraft.
I think it is a nice screen shot, but we have effectively picked it to death. My apologies if I have offended anyone.
SkippyBing
Charter Member
The Fleet Air Arm used the Hellcat for anti-shipping strikes off Norway including dropping bombs. There's a nice picture of an RN one (JX822 registration number fans) carrying a 1000lb bomb under each wing in 'British Warplanes of World War Two'. But then I guess Helldiver never saw that one.
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Quixoticish
Charter Member
What's with all of the complaining? If Dexdoggy wants to fly his Hellcat in FSX with bombs, rockets, arrows, nukes and laser beams strapped under the wings then that's just peachy, that's his prerogative.
I'd hazard a guess and say he does it because it's fun and because he can. Nothing else needs to be said really.
I'd hazard a guess and say he does it because it's fun and because he can. Nothing else needs to be said really.
dharris
Charter Member
http://www.acepilots.com/planes/f6f_hellcat.html
F6F Performance
Especially with the delays in the F4U program, the US Navy needed a superior carrier-based fighter in 1942-43. The Hellcat filled the bill. On average, it flew 55 MPH faster than the Zero; at about 20,000 feet it was 70 MPH faster. At altitudes in excess of 10,000 feet, it had a comparable rate of climb. At all altitudes, due to its heavier weight and greater power, it could out-dive the A6M. (This was generally true of American fighters; in a tough spot, the pilots could nose over, firewall the throttle, and zoom down.)
The 'dash Five' closely resembled the 'dash Three.' It had some extra armor, stronger main gear legs, spring tabs on the ailerons (for better maneuverability), and most of them had water-injection engines (the R-2800-10W). Both versions had 250 gallons capacity in internal tanks and a 150 gallon belly drop-tank.
Its armament, power, and range gave the Hellcat great versatility. The basic weaponry consisted of six wing-mounted .50 caliber machine guns, each with 400 rounds of ammunition. Many, including all F6F-5N and F6F-5P variants substituted a 20mm cannon with 200 rounds for the innermost machine gun in each wing. The Hellcat could carry a up two 1,000 pound bombs. Its most destructive weapons were six 5-inch HVAR's (High Velocity Aircraft Rockets), which the author Barrett Tillman described as "equal to a destroyer's broadside."
This variety of weapons and equipment permitted the Hellcat to carry out a broad range of missions: fighter versus fighter combat, strike plane escort, combat air patrol, long range search, ground support over invasion beaches, night fighting (see F6F-5N), and photo recon (see F6F-5P).
Operations - 1943
http://www.vectorsite.net/avf6f.html
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/usa/air...-hellcat-uss-yorktown-hanger-deck-1943-01.jpg
F6F Performance
Especially with the delays in the F4U program, the US Navy needed a superior carrier-based fighter in 1942-43. The Hellcat filled the bill. On average, it flew 55 MPH faster than the Zero; at about 20,000 feet it was 70 MPH faster. At altitudes in excess of 10,000 feet, it had a comparable rate of climb. At all altitudes, due to its heavier weight and greater power, it could out-dive the A6M. (This was generally true of American fighters; in a tough spot, the pilots could nose over, firewall the throttle, and zoom down.)
The 'dash Five' closely resembled the 'dash Three.' It had some extra armor, stronger main gear legs, spring tabs on the ailerons (for better maneuverability), and most of them had water-injection engines (the R-2800-10W). Both versions had 250 gallons capacity in internal tanks and a 150 gallon belly drop-tank.
Its armament, power, and range gave the Hellcat great versatility. The basic weaponry consisted of six wing-mounted .50 caliber machine guns, each with 400 rounds of ammunition. Many, including all F6F-5N and F6F-5P variants substituted a 20mm cannon with 200 rounds for the innermost machine gun in each wing. The Hellcat could carry a up two 1,000 pound bombs. Its most destructive weapons were six 5-inch HVAR's (High Velocity Aircraft Rockets), which the author Barrett Tillman described as "equal to a destroyer's broadside."
This variety of weapons and equipment permitted the Hellcat to carry out a broad range of missions: fighter versus fighter combat, strike plane escort, combat air patrol, long range search, ground support over invasion beaches, night fighting (see F6F-5N), and photo recon (see F6F-5P).
Operations - 1943
http://www.vectorsite.net/avf6f.html
http://www.wwiivehicles.com/usa/air...-hellcat-uss-yorktown-hanger-deck-1943-01.jpg