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A Lockheed "Rounder"

t.creed said:
can the tire textures from the A-29 Grizzley be adopted to the Lockheeds ?? they were nicely done !!

rgds
t creed
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Yes of course. I usually go with what the era pictures show but I can be flexible.

If you have some late 40's/early 50's pics showing tire treads, please share a few.
 
That's absolutely fine Milton about leaving out the A26.
Regarding pic's, books I have read had photo's of RNZAF PV-1's with the same kind of tread tires as the grizzly's, same for the C-60's during WW2, and the same in the late 40's for the New Zealand National Airways Lodestars, probably at that time in the late 40's there was still a lot of new wartime treaded tires available in stock. Unfortunately I can't scan these pic's at the moment, but I'll try dig up some pics from the net.
Here's a link to a picture of an RAAF Lodestar...here you can see the tread on the tire. The NZNAC civil Lodestars had tires like that, and same with C-60s
http://www.adf-serials.com.au/2a67.htm

http://ww2today.com/3rd-may-1943-no-487-squadron-rnzaf-wiped-out-in-daylight-raid <<--click on the Ventura photo to enlarge it, this one is a British RAF MKII Ventura which was different in appearance to the PV-1 but here you can see the treaded tire. Most of the RNZAF PV-1s had tires like that and I would think most US Venturas had the same too

Unfortunately that was all I could dig up from the net. I can't find any pics of wartime PV-2s either. They would have had treaded tires on them in the Pacific theater, like the PV-1s.

I just love the treaded tires on the Grizzly!
Thanks!
 
michaelvader said:
Hallo Milton,
as I still are serching for cockpit and interior pictures for the Harpoon I found this interesting site:

http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=38160&start=570

perhaps you still know it.
If not I hope you can find there somme interesting stuff for you and your team.

Holm- und Rippenbruch

Yours
Papi
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Thank you Papi. Yes, I am aware of this site and thread; have followed it from the beginning. I am very appreciative of Taigh Ramey's work. He provided many photos for the AT-11 project a few years back from his AT-11 restoration. He has also provided photos and drawings of the Harpoon project to assist in some of my questions regarding the ECU setup. Taigh Ramey is a wonderful and talented man who has earned the respect of many in the business.
 
my little Harpoon cockpit work

Hallo Milton

oh you are lucky in America where the people are very "sportive" and like to share their work. It is not assame in germany ! I tried to get some photos and help for a Casa 1.111 (spanish version of the Heinkel He 111) pfff any answer.
Nevertheless I would like to send you three screenshots to show you where i am with my panel for the Harpoon. I changed the main panel. And hmmm I' m not
realy glad with it.
but the radio and radar operators position might perhps be interesting.

Yours
Papi
 
michaelvader said:
Hallo Milton

oh you are lucky in America where the people are very "sportive" and like to share their work. It is not assame in germany ! I tried to get some photos and help for a Casa 1.111 (spanish version of the Heinkel He 111) pfff any answer.
Nevertheless I would like to send you three screenshots to show you where i am with my panel for the Harpoon. I changed the main panel. And hmmm I' m not
realy glad with it.
but the radio and radar operators position might perhps be interesting.

Yours
Papi
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Papi,

Nice work you have done on the 2D panels and pop up panels. That should work very well for you. :applause:
 
Harpoon panel

good morning Milton,

if you want I would send you the panel for test before relase as perhaps you can use something out of it.
But by mail it would realy be too big, even without the gauges.
So if you can indicate me a way how to - - - I will send it to you.
For the moment I work also on the Fw 200 Condor panel and a total rework of it's airfile.
Other question to you: would the Lodestat also be avaible for FS2004 ?
That would be very fine !
I kow you still have a lot of work in the tube; but why not a german aircraft as the He 111 in the variant before it geot the full glazed nose,
or the spanish variant Casa 1.111 ? or a Me 109 G-12, the two-seater variant?
For the moment the plane I use most the time for experiancing new scenes or to have a look how is the real weather home in brittany is one of your AI-Harpoons with one of my "light" panels.

yours
Papi
 
Milton Shupe said:
Yes of course. I usually go with what the era pictures show but I can be flexible.

If you have some late 40's/early 50's pics showing tire treads, please share a few.
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I found a couple of online discussions that ranged from "they used whatever was in the parts stores" to a couple that discussed tires being spec'd for field conditions/geography/surfaces.
One of the latter is here: http://forum.armyairforces.com/Tire-Tread-Design-m90892.aspx
Although small, a couple of the attached images may be helpful.

It does seem likely that, once in the theater, tires may have been replaced with whatever was 'on hand' as there are numerous pictures of a/c with more than one tread pattern installed.
 
michaelvader said:
good morning Milton,

if you want I would send you the panel for test before relase as perhaps you can use something out of it.
But by mail it would realy be too big, even without the gauges.
So if you can indicate me a way how to - - - I will send it to you.
For the moment I work also on the Fw 200 Condor panel and a total rework of it's airfile.
Other question to you: would the Lodestat also be avaible for FS2004 ?
That would be very fine !
I kow you still have a lot of work in the tube; but why not a german aircraft as the He 111 in the variant before it geot the full glazed nose,
or the spanish variant Casa 1.111 ? or a Me 109 G-12, the two-seater variant?
For the moment the plane I use most the time for experiancing new scenes or to have a look how is the real weather home in brittany is one of your AI-Harpoons with one of my "light" panels.

yours
Papi
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Papi,

Thank you Papi for the offer but I intend to model these areas and make the 2D panel views from the 3D VC views.
 
srgalahad said:
I found a couple of online discussions that ranged from "they used whatever was in the parts stores" to a couple that discussed tires being spec'd for field conditions/geography/surfaces.
One of the latter is here: http://forum.armyairforces.com/Tire-Tread-Design-m90892.aspx
Although small, a couple of the attached images may be helpful.

It does seem likely that, once in the theater, tires may have been replaced with whatever was 'on hand' as there are numerous pictures of a/c with more than one tread pattern installed.
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Thanks for the research. I do have a diamond pattern shared by Manfred Jahn as used on the Grizzly but not the pattern shown here. Maybe a good enough picture will be unearthed that will allow a portion of the pattern to be used to make a template for an alternate tread pattern.
 
So, does anyone have a source for this tire tread pattern.

If not maybe Nigel can come up with some magic here. :)
 
I think I have completed the modeling now for the interior and VC so now on to mapping for textures.

Meanwhile Nigel is hard at new exterior detailing; a site to see I assure you. :jump:
 
Milton Shupe said:
So, does anyone have a source for this tire tread pattern.

If not maybe Nigel can come up with some magic here. :)
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Milton, What would you need for at texture, angles views, head-on, side? I can make a texture for this if a suitable photo cant be found.
 
Hurricane91 said:
Gorgeous detail, inside and out. Absolutely incredible work by some of the great FS Masters.
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We are making progress and banging up against the poly limits and I keep looking for ways to save polys to make it all work. :)

I tried to match the radio/radar equipment the best I could in each of the stations to the extent that poly limits allowed. Once Nigel does his magic inside, I think it will be just fine.

Meanwhile, Nigel is doing extra duty outside laying a new foundation for all the paint schemes. We are excited about bringing this up a level or so. :)

Thanks to Duckie again for the tire tread texture work. After a few iterations, I think he is happy with the appearance in the sim.
 
Wow, the tire tread looks great! :applause::applause: A slightly different tread pattern to the diamond pattern, but it looks great nonetheless.

Fantastic, awesome, incredible, inside and out, looks so beautifully textured and modelled.
 
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