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A question for the Dutch guys/Navy people!

JensOle

JensOle

SOH-CM-2023
Hi,

I'm removing some dust from my old R81 Karel Doorman carrier repaint for making a ship for the Flyingstations Sea Fury and the great Dutch repaints by Huub Vink. After seeing some pictures on the net of the HO4S helicopters the MLD started to use from Doorman in 1953 I got the idea to paint up the Whirlwind (British build H-19) from the HMS Victorious 1958 package as the MLD HO4S 8-3 "Cleopatra" to act as plane guard helicopter for the aicarrier formation with Karel Doorman.

Now to the question: Which side would the plane guard HO4S be flying when on plane guard duties? Most other straight deck ai formations put the heli on the right side, but it would be nice to get some more information.
My bet is that they did not want the plane guard heli on the left side as the aircraft do left circuits when landing and therefore would put the heli on the flight path of a wave off. When the angled deck arrived I understand that the plane guard was moved to the left side for faster response.
 
Ours tend to go on the left side aft (last 3rd of the ship).. a suitable distance from the carrier to be out of the way but close enough should the worst happen.

ATB
DaveB:)
 
Did the royal navy have the plane guard heli on the left side in the pre angled deck period with fixed wing flying(early 50's)? The issue as i can see it is that on the left side it will be straight in the wave off flight path. Or it could be placed far out on the left side to keep clear. Of course when the angled deck came along the aircrsft could of course just follow the flight path of the angled deck and it was no collision danger sith the heli on the left side
 
Cees,

You have too much faith in me. But in this case I can confirm Delta_Lima is right. The starboard side is correct.

(The helicopter on the pictures is the Salomé)

Cheers,
Huub

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I agree.. that shot speaks a thousand words.

Looking back through shots of RN carriers of the same era.. even though we still had straight decks, the angle was painted on so landings weren't straight down the deck. I found one shot of Albion during the Suez Crisis and her helo is aft/left. I presume that should an aircraft go over the end on a straight deck configured carrier.. the procedure would be for the ship to go hard to port though whether it would get out of the way in time to miss the aircraft is doubtful. Regardless.. you gotta have a plan;)

ATB
DaveB:)
 
Thanks!


Bellow are some shots of the K-L, Sea Fury and "HO4S" plane guard. Any idea of my current British C-class destroyer escort was used by the Dutch at the time or do I need to find something more modern?

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That destroyer looks perfect for the job JensK. While the Dutch had some 4 destroyers of their own design in the 50's (ordered pre-WWII) they also had a number of ex-RN units. The one in shot looks just fine:encouragement:

ATB
DaveB:)
 
Hi,

I'm working tomorrow, maybe I'll get the files up in the evening.

For people interested you can start with downloaded the additional model files:

-HMS "C-class destroyer" 1950
-HMAS Sydney
-Flying stations HMS Victorious (rebuild 60's) for the S-55/H-19

All files should be here at the SoH I think.
 
On the strength of those screenshots, ive just bought the Flying stations Sea Fury, worth 10 pounds of anyone's money, thanks guys, best prop in my hanger :ernaehrung004:

cheers ian
 
Closing the throttle to idle of the Sea Fury makes the plane loose it's spinner and the plane topples and crashes. Has anybody experienced the same phenomenon?

Cees
 
Never seen or heard about something like that! Maybe try a fresh install?

There is also a P3D update for the Fury in the P3D forum which fixes a major fps issue.
 
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