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The Staff of SOH
A sophisticated pirate
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Agreed and the sad thing is, his parents are doing a really poor job at pretending to be parents. Another reason to keep your kids off the internet unless supervised.
My guess is the parents have no clue. Not many parents are internet savvy and have no clue what a bit or a byte is much less a torrent download.
The kid has his PC in his room, an internet connection and is smart and tech savvy. His parents are probably thrilled he's not out doing drugs or going goth. He's quiet, on the PC and staying out of trouble (at least as far as they can see).
They wouldn't have a clue what he's up to (and as long as they don't see internet porn probably don't care).
He could also be in a single parent home and that parent may not be around a whole lot to supervise his internet activities.
I'm not aplogizing for the kid or what he's done. In his mind (most likely) he thinks it's OK. He's of the generation that thinks file sharing is fine. All his friends do it and it's all he's known since he's been online. What he needs is someone to explain to him why it's wrong.
-G-
Point taken. And, after my response, I remembered the day my son was burning cd's. My new CD's were used by him to burn music. Initailly I thought..ok, whats a few cd's? Later that day he was still at the PC burning disks. I was suspicious, and asked where he got all the music. He said, a friend let him borrow his music. I thought....hmmm. Then I asked where his friend got the music. My son told me that he downloaded it off the internet. My son was 13 mind you.
Anyway...I got his friends phone number and called. Spoke to his mother and explained what was going on. I told here that my son had about 80 cd's of music he borrowed from her son. She replied...my son doesn't have but maybe 15 cd's. That's when I told her what my son told me...that he was dowloading it off the net and giving it to his friends.
To end the story, my sons..friends mother was livid. And I the same. As a result my son lost that friendship due to my actions. My son now realizes it's flat out stealing.
Anyway...I got his friends phone number and called. Spoke to his mother and explained what was going on. I told here that my son had about 80 cd's of music he borrowed from her son. She replied...my son doesn't have but maybe 15 cd's. That's when I told her what my son told me...that he was dowloading it off the net and giving it to his friends.
To end the story, my sons..friends mother was livid. And I the same. As a result my son lost that friendship due to my actions. My son now realizes it's flat out stealing.
idancesafetydance
Charter Member
I was hoping this was updates or paint for the "Pirat"....
bazzar
Charter Member 2018
Bill send me a PM mate and I'll give you the addy. I'd rather not have this one out in the public domain. He has torrent downloads for everything from Aerosoft through to Wilco. I think he is just assembling the links from pirate sites but what i find faintly amusing is where he can't obviously find a torrent download link he actually shows the price of the product and manufacturers download info!
Me Too. :isadizzy:
GrinningJester
Viking
Heh, or his parents are pirates themselves (perhaps not FS X software, but music, games, movies), like millions of other people?
Yes, piracy sucks for us developers. We loose money, but if you're crying that the parents are methheads or ignorant in some way, then I'm afraid you're the one 'behind the times'.
Downloading copyrighted material these days is an inevitable result of higher internet speeds and connectivity. I will say it again and again; you can not stop it- not through laws nor through punishing the users.
The torrent seeders are only a miniscule part of the grand scheme. Hell, copyrighted files are hosted on Usenet servers, which consist mainly of ISP backbones. So how do you stop all seeding if you're going to have to shut down many massive ISP backbones?
No reason to get fired up. It's a normal thing in todays society. Best thing one can do is mellow out, and value those customers that DID purchase your product, and make their experience as enjoyable as possible. They are, after all, why we payware devs are still here.
My 2c.
Yes, piracy sucks for us developers. We loose money, but if you're crying that the parents are methheads or ignorant in some way, then I'm afraid you're the one 'behind the times'.
Downloading copyrighted material these days is an inevitable result of higher internet speeds and connectivity. I will say it again and again; you can not stop it- not through laws nor through punishing the users.
The torrent seeders are only a miniscule part of the grand scheme. Hell, copyrighted files are hosted on Usenet servers, which consist mainly of ISP backbones. So how do you stop all seeding if you're going to have to shut down many massive ISP backbones?
No reason to get fired up. It's a normal thing in todays society. Best thing one can do is mellow out, and value those customers that DID purchase your product, and make their experience as enjoyable as possible. They are, after all, why we payware devs are still here.
My 2c.
I would have to say you are spot on in your assessment "G". Also, what goes hand in hand with being that young is a distinct air of invincibility. The mantra of the young, I'm too smart to get caught, lol.
If he truly is clueless as to how much trouble he can get into pulling a stunt like this, maybe a simple "eye-opening" chat can fix it, but if he's hyped this little escapade to his friends. . .the pressure to maintain will be greater than the possibility that he "might" get caught.
Henry
Retired SOH Administrator
My view for what its worth
i do not believe he knows what he is doing
and his parents just the same
look what i got off the internet today, even if it went that far
im not condoning and it needs to stop
but he got an airplane off the internet
so what! [His parents view not mine]
or he's smart he has a web site
just looking at it from the other side.
Bottom line here in my opinion
its the hosts that should take responsibility
they do or should know better
to me there lies the problem
H
i do not believe he knows what he is doing
and his parents just the same
look what i got off the internet today, even if it went that far
im not condoning and it needs to stop
but he got an airplane off the internet
so what! [His parents view not mine]
or he's smart he has a web site
just looking at it from the other side.
Bottom line here in my opinion
its the hosts that should take responsibility
they do or should know better
to me there lies the problem
H
Bjoern
worst developer ever
This post, lads and lassies, deserves to be stickied and framed in gold or platinum!
The best damn statement I've read about the subject in a loooong time.
Jester, you're signed up for a free beer, should we ever meet outside the internet. :ernae:
bazzar
Charter Member 2018
The point here is that this kid needn't do this. He is publishing torrent addresses alongside manufacturers' links with the bonefide price. Why would you do that? It's just a review site.
I'm afraid that this is just another symptom of some of the progeny of gen "X"and gen "Y" putting into practice what their parents taught them...apathy.
This just does one thing, builds a distinct lack of basic values and worse still, disrespect for those talented, honest people who do this work. If we had "chilled" when we were creating the computer (yes, us old farts brought you that) and not worried about piracy of ideas, you probably would not be enjoying the technology you have on your desk right now.
As a developer I don't actually care about "pirates" and have expressed my views on this before but I do fear for a planet, the care of which will inevitably fall into these people's hands. That's a much bigger issue.
I'm afraid that this is just another symptom of some of the progeny of gen "X"and gen "Y" putting into practice what their parents taught them...apathy.
This just does one thing, builds a distinct lack of basic values and worse still, disrespect for those talented, honest people who do this work. If we had "chilled" when we were creating the computer (yes, us old farts brought you that) and not worried about piracy of ideas, you probably would not be enjoying the technology you have on your desk right now.
As a developer I don't actually care about "pirates" and have expressed my views on this before but I do fear for a planet, the care of which will inevitably fall into these people's hands. That's a much bigger issue.
I wanted to click on his "How's my site working out?" button.