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A2A B-17 Video

It might help if you use to identical comparative shots ... and I did go back and look and yes there is a twist to the blades.

I think maybe, you might, as you said, be a little to critical on what you percieve.

I'm with Stiz, they look good to me and now that they rotate as a unit and don't disappear and get replaced by a disc, just blows wind right up my dress!

I like em just the way they are ...

I gotta admit that tutorial for props was extremely interesting ... I probably would have taken days to do a prop ... LOL!
 
I can't wait to try out the accu-sim for this bird!! I hope someone does a Fuddy Duddy paint for it! Waiting is torture....arrrgggghhh!!:jump:

I love that lucky Irish bomber jacket that guy is wearing in Stiz's picture!!
 
MudMarine said:
... I hope someone does a Fuddy Duddy paint for it! ...
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Good news is that ICDP has found the bug in the original B-17 WOP2 template and has fixed the problem for the new relese with Accu-sim.

So with the new template, it shouldn't be too long or too difficult to make great skins for this. And as far as I know, all existings skins should still work.
 
Snuffy said:
Good news is that ICDP has found the bug in the original B-17 WOP2 template and has fixed the problem for the new relese with Accu-sim.

So with the new template, it shouldn't be too long or too difficult to make great skins for this. And as far as I know, all existings skins should still work.
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Good news Snuffy! Fuddy Duddy and I go back a long ways! I was at the WarBird Museum in Geneseo NY when she first flew in, I think I was around 14-16 yrs old. What a pile of junk! Now she's a beautiful old bird!
 
MudMarine said:
Good news Snuffy! Fuddy Duddy and I go back a long ways! I was at the WarBird Museum in Geneseo NY when she first flew in, I think I was around 14-16 yrs old. What a pile of junk! Now she's a beautiful old bird!
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Geneseo ... my gawd, there's a name I haven't heard in a coons age. My Dad took me to several airshows back then and I'm certain we hit Geneseo one year.
 
Snuffy said:
Geneseo ... my gawd, there's a name I haven't heard in a coons age. My Dad took me to several airshows back then and I'm certain we hit Geneseo one year.
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:icon_lol: I've been to just about every airshow they have had from the very begining. They used to do the pumpkin drops from B-25s and the B-17 which they don't do anymore. Unfortunately Geneseo is a grass field. They talked about surfacing it but it would cost millions. So they lost Fuddy, they just couldn't afford the upkeep on her, very sad! My parents lived not too far off the western end of the flight line. So usually every weekend we'd get to see a airshow. It got to were I could hear Fuddy coming and run outside to watch her fly over head. I almost got to ride in her once but they had some engine problems and had to cancel the flight......bummer! Someday I'm going to get a ride in a B-17!!
 
MudMarine said:
:icon_lol: I've been to just about every airshow they have had from the very begining. They used to do the pumpkin drops from B-25s and the B-17 which they don't do anymore. Unfortunately Geneseo is a grass field. They talked about surfacing it but it would cost millions. So they lost Fuddy, they just couldn't afford the upkeep on her, very sad! My parents lived not too far off the western end of the flight line. So usually every weekend we'd get to see a airshow. It got to were I could hear Fuddy coming and run outside to watch her fly over head. I almost got to ride in her once but they had some engine problems and had to cancel the flight......bummer! Someday I'm going to get a ride in a B-17!!
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Any of you guys remember going to the Wings of Eagles when it was held at Batavia? Fuddy was the first plane that i walked though. I miss here those warbirds start up any fly over head. Do any of you guys plan on going to the Geneseo for the airshow in July?
 
I've also been to the Wings of Eagles airshow, too bad that one went away also! I might be in Geneseo this July, depends on a lot of things.
 
I'm afraid I'm gonna have to apply the 5th on this one ... Like I said, if I went at all it was when Dad took me. Unfortunately at the time, I didn't have the love of aircraft that I do now, so if we went, I don't remember other than it was probably a long hot ride from Cuba .. LOL.

OH! I'm sorry for hijacking this thread too. :banghead:
 
I tell you what (I do not mean to hijack the thread either). It is a small world after all. As small as Batavia, NY is you never expect to run into people from there on here. I used to live for about a year in Portageville, and then another 4 years in Lancaster (Buffalo), NY. Never knew that we had B-17's or anything anywhere near the area. As a matter of fact when I moved up there from SC that was the end for me of seeing any kind of airshows anywherein Western NY. I did manage about 4 years ago I was flying on a SH-60B from Norfolk, VA to Jacksonville, FL and ran into the Collings Foundation B-17 & B-25 Bomber at a fuel stop. Their aircrew had already secured them for the day and were walking off as we were shutting down to take on fuel. That is the closest I have ever been to an actual flying WWII bomber. Certaintly is an impressive sight though, and one I will never forget.
 
Roadburner440 said:
I tell you what (I do not mean to hijack the thread either). It is a small world after all. As small as Batavia, NY is you never expect to run into people from there on here.-SNIP-.
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Well, I'm from Batavia, originally. Left there when I graduated from H.S. and went into the Navy.
Discovered San Francisco during my 8 1/2 year enlistment and since it rarely snows there, decided
that that would be my home when I got out :)

I went to the airshow when it was still in Batavia a few years ago when I was back there
visiting. I've also been back over the past several Labor Day holidays to attend the
Drum Corps Associates finals in Rochester. I always stay on a few extra days to visit
friends and relatives there and to get my fill of Beef on Weck sandwiches at the Pok-a-Dot
on Ellicott Street and Pontillos pizza.

I was back there for my 50th H.S. reunion last September and discovered, sadly, that Pontillos
had closed. Latest word is that Sam ( the original owners son ) is trying to reopen it.

So, lots of Western New Yorkers hereabouts it seems :)

EDIT: And to get back on topic, there IS twist in the A2A B-17G props. It is just difficult to get a
good camera anlge view to see it. I certainly wouldn't expect to be able to gauge it from
a video.

Paul
 
Gawd! I haven't had a decent Beef on Weck in who knows how long! :banghead:

However, since Roadrunner mentioned his stint in Jax ... guess where I am now. LOL! ARGH!
 
GypsyBaron said:
EDIT: And to get back on topic, there IS twist in the A2A B-17G props. It is just difficult to get a
good camera anlge view to see it. I certainly wouldn't expect to be able to gauge it from
a video.

Paul
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There is a very slight twist, but the fact that the leading and trailing edges are straight and VERY low polygon hides that. A prop blade is very curved and fluid, and Stiz's photo's demonstrate that very well.



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The one on the A2A B-17 is very flat and rather lifeless. Way too low polgon for current standards in my openion. I have been modeling aircraft for 15 years and have never modeled one with a flat leading and trailing edge. Any of the clients I work for would of rejected it. Even there own logo shows a nice curvy blade.

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Gib
 
Kevin something about your whole argument is way out of proportion! It looks the way it does because it is a low polygon count on the props..ya know fps and all that rot. Personally I could care less what your clients would or would not reject. Accusim is going to cost plenty of frame rates if the prop polygon count goes too much higher. I have yet to buy one of your aircraft because frankly I just haven't been all that impressed. So why do we have to put up with your comments about a product we already know is a good value and fully immersive? This whole thing is just bad form! I believe I speak for most all of the moderators where when I say enough is enough. You have the option, as do others not to buy the product.
Ted
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GypsyBaron said:
Well, I'm from Batavia, originally. Left there when I graduated from H.S. and went into the Navy.
Discovered San Francisco during my 8 1/2 year enlistment and since it rarely snows there, decided
that that would be my home when I got out :)

I went to the airshow when it was still in Batavia a few years ago when I was back there
visiting. I've also been back over the past several Labor Day holidays to attend the
Drum Corps Associates finals in Rochester. I always stay on a few extra days to visit
friends and relatives there and to get my fill of Beef on Weck sandwiches at the Pok-a-Dot
on Ellicott Street and Pontillos pizza.

I was back there for my 50th H.S. reunion last September and discovered, sadly, that Pontillos
had closed. Latest word is that Sam ( the original owners son ) is trying to reopen it.

So, lots of Western New Yorkers hereabouts it seems :)

EDIT: And to get back on topic, there IS twist in the A2A B-17G props. It is just difficult to get a
good camera anlge view to see it. I certainly wouldn't expect to be able to gauge it from
a video.

Paul
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WOW!...Talk about a real small world. I am also from the area, Greece NY, and have attended every Wings of Eagles and Historical Aircraft Group shows at Geneseo. I'll never forget the year at Geneseo when they had all the current flying B-17's in attendence, must of been 9 or 10 of them. I am also very familiar with Drum Corps Associates that GypsyBaron mentioned. I used to march in a junior corps from Batavia, Mighty Saint Joes. I also marched and taught The Rochester Crusaders, and spent 6 years with The Empire Statesmen as M&M instructor and drum major. Hmmm not one, but two things in common....LOL
 
txnetcop said:
So why do we have to put up with your comments about a product we already know is a good value and fully immersive? This whole thing is just bad form! I believe I speak for most all of the moderators where when I say enough is enough. You have the option, as do others not to buy the product.
Ted
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So your saying I have no right to an openion? Thats rather messed up. I have accepted other people's comments here for years, good and bad. The moment I express my own, I get jumped on? Thats a rather big double standard, and quite frankly its one I dont like. Like I said, I have no competing products, and im not associated with any dev's, so why am I disallowed from expressing my openion like a normal user of this forum? Im simply trying to express my professional openion.
 
I've already stated my Opinion.

I like the fact that the prop as a unit now revolves with the proper RPMs that you set and that A2A is no longer using a disc in place of prop blades!!

Yay!
 
Gibbage said:
So your saying I have no right to an openion? Thats rather messed up. I have accepted other people's comments here for years, good and bad. The moment I express my own, I get jumped on? Thats a rather big double standard, and quite frankly its one I dont like. Like I said, I have no competing products, and im not associated with any dev's, so why am I disallowed from expressing my openion like a normal user of this forum? Im simply trying to express my professional openion.
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Never have I seen another developer criticizing your work, not because there hasn't been anything to criticize...it's just bad form...so I would stop now if I were you. Sometimes discretion is the better part of valor!
Ted
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Simple solution, if you don't like it, don't buy it.

I can't get onto the A2A store site........COULD IT BE READY?:jump:
 
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