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AI aircraft?

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DaveKDEN

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What military AI aircraft add-on do I need for Jim Cook's (and others) scenery files? He's done such a nice job on so many airports, but they're all rather sparce without AI moving about.
 
Which airfields are you talking about? :)

It's easier for people to suggest AI models if they know whose airfields have been updated (i.e. who the operators are).

Ian P.
 
I use Just Flight's two Military Plus Packs which give me military traffic at my military bases (and National Guard aprons at civil airports). For example, I just uploaded Burlington Intl. Airport to Avsim and I have F-16s and I've had C-130s, KC-135, and government DC-9s. I also have a couple of MAIW's military packages installed.

I use World-of-AI for commercial traffic. The smaller regional airports never seem to have a ton of traffic and it often takes awhile for them to populate. That's with traffic set at 60%. I often fly out of Albany, NY (KALB) since I live near there and rarely see more than 2 or 3 planes on the ground at a time, but they are accurate. Southwest flights are there when they're supposed to be and leave on schedule.

Take a look at the MAIW packages, I've heard from people who use them exclusively and have a lot of military traffic. What I do is install them into a dummy folder, then manually copy over the airplanes and flightplans. You don't want to install the "afcad" files as they would conflict with my updated bases. Their website is here:

http://www.militaryaiworks.com/

Hope that helps.
Jim
 
I just downloaded Burlington last night Jim. Haven't installed yet but I will today. I was going to mod it myself but you saved me the work. (I may tweak it a bit for myself since I used to work as a ramp rat at BTV)

Brian
 
For FSX, ensure that if you install MAIW or WoAI packages, you convert the plans from FS9 format to FSX format using AI Flight Planner or AI Flight Plan Converter. The FS9 traffic will kill ALL FSX format traffic, including the aircraft carriers, transoceanic shipping, GA and (not mattering as much) the fictional airliners.

I use quite a lot of MAIW stuff around the UK in FSX and it's more than acceptable. It's just a pity than none of the free AI teams seem the slightest bit inclined to bring their models across to true FSX format.

Ian P.
 
For FSX, ensure that if you install MAIW or WoAI packages, you convert the plans from FS9 format to FSX format using AI Flight Planner or AI Flight Plan Converter. The FS9 traffic will kill ALL FSX format traffic, including the aircraft carriers, transoceanic shipping, GA and (not mattering as much) the fictional airliners.
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Where can I find these programs?

Brian
 
JimC1702 said:
I use Just Flight's two Military Plus Packs which give me military traffic at my military bases (and National Guard aprons at civil airports). For example, I just uploaded Burlington Intl. Airport to Avsim and I have F-16s and I've had C-130s, KC-135, and government DC-9s. I also have a couple of MAIW's military packages installed.

I use World-of-AI for commercial traffic. The smaller regional airports never seem to have a ton of traffic and it often takes awhile for them to populate. That's with traffic set at 60%. I often fly out of Albany, NY (KALB) since I live near there and rarely see more than 2 or 3 planes on the ground at a time, but they are accurate. Southwest flights are there when they're supposed to be and leave on schedule.

Take a look at the MAIW packages, I've heard from people who use them exclusively and have a lot of military traffic. What I do is install them into a dummy folder, then manually copy over the airplanes and flightplans. You don't want to install the "afcad" files as they would conflict with my updated bases. Their website is here:

http://www.militaryaiworks.com/

Hope that helps.
Jim
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Thanks very much Jim! Great job on your airfield's! :applause:
 
AIFP is the way to go.
I've nothing against pre-defined packages, you understand, but there's no control over the contents.
What if I want to re-populate my skies with F-4s, for example, or Lightnings? I may want specific aircraft at specific places, or along specific routes.

When in doubt -- do it yourself.

Dave
 
In my case, I have had to create AI for airfields that FSX has never heard of, therefore, I have to use AIFP (or the massive complexity that is hand-coded XML) to create flight plans from scratch. I will probably create some random plans for Ansons, Magisters and Tiger Moths to recreate the constant communications and "squadron hack" flights, but the vast majority of my AI coding has to be done by hand.

Which reminds me. I need to copy some models and take the VCs out of them to reduce the overhead for AI...

Ian P.
 
I use MAIW military, and it creates reasonably lifelike Mil fields.

FWIW, I have found that as long as you keep the "main" AI file in FSX format, you don't kill all the other AI if you add FS9 format files. For example, for commercial traffic I use Ultimate Traffic to create a traffic file, and convert to FSX format. I then add WOAI, or AIG files (more current), and keep those in FS9 format. I then update my main Ultimate Traffic File to exlude the airlines I manually added (eliminates duplicate traffic). The result is that I have a "main" traffic file in FSX format (named "Traffic.bgl"), and 40-50 other traffic files in FS9 format. All this and I still have boat traffice from FSX.

Best
Bill
 
Bill, does that really work?

The times I've tried mixed FS9/FSX traffic files, all of the FSX traffic didn't show up.
 
If you layer them correctly, yes, it can still work. The problem is that the layering has to be spot on and, for most peoples' setups, it won't be. There's no question or doubt at all that it is vastly better to convert than try and mix. There's no point whatsoever in having FS9 format AI files in FSX when they are so easy to convert.

Ian P.
 
Well Ian, that's basically what I was thinking. If the conversion process was long and painful those "mixed bags" would be a nice solution, but with brazillions of tool out there...
 
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