Airbase help?

swpierce said:
I was having issues with that part of the map when I was trying to overlay a runway light facility in a mission file over the Gilze-Rijen airfield. There seemed to be some kind of glitch with Lat/Lon coordinates. Probably my computer, I know. But you may want to try installing your facility at another location just to see if it shows up.
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My guess on those runway lights, would be to add them into the airbase facility itself.
In my Keroman base, I was looking at adding in Festung Lorient, all the flak units surrounding the area. But, everyone of them are way off the groundplanes. Dumb idea, though it can work. As a work around, I (painfully) made a separate facility for Festung Lorient. Make a mission to Keroman, then, hand-edit the mission, adding in Festung Lorient. You might try something like that. Those missions with the Festung are hot and heavy! And it only has a third of the units that were there.

Yup yup on the black alpha. Still don't show, meaning the groundplane texture. I'll toss in, I have that .dds in the same location, for the other added airbases, and they show fine.
 
Find anything, Frosty?

I don't think there's any issues in the .dds. Looking like a path problem...the sim can't find the texture. I don't find anything in the files naming.

Is it whiskey time, yet?
 
crossram said:
Guess my .dds file ain't cuttin' it. That's probably why it won't load. Took a look in the ImageTool, but not clear on how to convert a .bmp, to .dds.

Dumb old guy!
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Just use paint.net for that, or Gimp for more complicated stuff. I used Gimp for all my layered 'art' work.
 
Frosty said:
No, nothing yet - I hope I can find the time tonight. Right now I am occupied with some pressing RL stuff ...
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You take all the time you want. Appreciate you taking a look! btw...the hangar you'll see, I've increased the .dds size, so it looks much better. I'm keeping occupied adding in all the flak, and radar, off a map showing it all.
Have you ever tried placing buildings, or the like, in the facility, but off the groundplane? No matter, I'll see if it will work.

mongoose...I use PSP7, with the added Nvidia dds format (v3.02) plugin. I'm pretty sure the .dds is good, CFS3 just can't find the dang thing. I've also increased the .dds size to 2048 x 2048.

Back to my head-bangin'.
 
Hey, mongoose

Thanks for the .zips!

Since I can't do it via PM, here's a .zip for you TOW guys.
I've had this stuff for more than 20 years. You can read about what it took, for me to get it. No matter, I'm always willing to share, just like everyone...that's what it's all about.
 

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You bet. It's been many years, since I've looked at 'em, so I'll take a look, do what's needed, and export them.

Hope that stuff helps you.
 
crossram said:
You take all the time you want. Appreciate you taking a look! btw...the hangar you'll see, I've increased the .dds size, so it looks much better. I'm keeping occupied adding in all the flak, and radar, off a map showing it all.
Have you ever tried placing buildings, or the like, in the facility, but off the groundplane? No matter, I'll see if it will work. ...
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Think I got it:
- At first, I couldn't get Gilze-Rijen installed at all which turned out to be the mess Open Office made of the .csv file. After editing the .csv in Notepad I could create a working .gsl.lib :banghead:
- Then I ran into the same problem you had: no groundtexture :banghead:
- After creating a simple .mos file, your groundtexture showed up fine :encouragement:.

So, even though I thought it would be possible to create an airfield without a .mos file, it turns out it apparently isn't. Maybe that's something I had forgotten, dunno. But adding one seems to do the trick... Hope it works for you too!

Oh, and adding objects outside the groundplane/texture should work fine (remember not all facilities have a groundtexture). It depends on what the autogen scenery places there. You'll have to experiment a little, I guess, to see if it works for your specific situation.
 
Thank You!

Come to think about it, I could have ran into the same thing, on AAF_station_121. Remember noticing a simple .mos file for it.

I would have never thought about that (maybe). I sure do appreciate it!!

Now, I'm gonna make a NOTE on that, so I can keep my act together. :dizzy:
 
If the airbase is in the correct historical location? I would prefer not but I suppose it would depend where the track ran as some Fliegerhorsten did have railway lines running to them; something I am still having trouble adding!
 
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crossram said:
What would you do?

Airbase groundplane is on top of a railroad. Move the airbase?
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If the railroad is smack in the middle of your airfield (crossing any runways, taxiways etc.), I would move the airfield.
If the railroad is close to the airfield's boundaries, I would try adding a railroad spline to the facility.

IIRC there was a railroad nearby with a branch to the fliegerhorst. Ask James, he knows Venlo only too well! :biggrin-new:
BTW, that model of the controltower is really good!! :encouragement:.

[Edit: James beat me to it]
 
Frosty said:
If the railroad is smack in the middle of your airfield (crossing any runways, taxiways etc.), I would move the airfield.
If the railroad is close to the airfield's boundaries, I would try adding a railroad spline to the facility.

IIRC there was a railroad nearby with a branch to the fliegerhorst. Ask James, he knows Venlo only too well! :biggrin-new:
BTW, that model of the controltower is really good!! :encouragement:.

[Edit: James beat me to it]
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Thanks for the kind words! (You wouldn't believe how I sized it!) Something about 80" door height. Any port in the storm, eh.

The rail track kinda cuts through the groundplane, which it fairly good size. This is Gilze-Rijen...maps don't show any tracks.
I might be able to get by, since I need to rotate the field a little (via the global layer). Yeah, the field is at the right co-ords, for what that's worth, in CFS3 land. Just bothers me, seeing that dead-end two places at the groundplane.

Gilze-Rijen also sported alot of camo netted a/c enclosures. Placing them now.

Hey, mongoose! Any chance I can tinker with some of your searchlight files? (For a little project I'm working on...60cm)
 
crossram said:
... This is Gilze-Rijen...maps don't show any tracks. ...
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Ah, sorry - got Venlo and Gilze-Rijen mixed up :banghead:. It must have been the tower model (that's definitely Venlo).

Anyway, nowadays there is a railroad linking the cities of Breda and Tilburg. Gilze-Rijen lies between those two. I don't know if the railroad was already there in the war years or what info MS used when constructing the global scenery layer. I know this doesn't solve your problem but just so you know the railway itself could be historical (but maybe not its location...).
 
Thanks, mongoose! :encouragement:

Frosty. Yeah, I had Venlo in the works, years ago, alot of research, most from 'over there' via emails.
Have quite a bit of info on the buildings, but it's a waste, without having some photos to work off of. Touched base with the
curator at Venlo airfield, asking for some photos. He told me...he didn't have time to fool with such stuff!
He did give me a large photo of the airfield...one that has now been shared. Yeah, there's a few building photos floating around, but not much. Venlo has rail tracks through it.
 
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