Alphasim F-104 Starfighter?

[PRB]

I have been looking at the AS 104 . If anyone has it maybe you could answer a couple of questions .

1> Will it work in acceleration .
2> It says for FSX and fs9. Is this a different package for each or a one plane for both .
3>It also says
includes four seperate flight models, unique handling and range to each
What dose this mean .

As always thanks .

1. Yes, works fine in Acceleration.

2. There are two separate downloads when you buy it. One for FS9, and another for FSX.

3. There are four separate folders in your Sim Objects/Airplanes folder, as in four separate airplanes, labeled "ALPHA F-104 Starfighter 0", "... 1", "...2", and "...3". They each contain at least one and sometimes two different models. .clean, .Italian, .bullpups, .tanks, .tanks2. Never did pay attention to how different they each fly.

 

[roger-wilco-66]

I also had the throttle problem with the AS F104, and a few other hickups.

Thanks to DaveQ and this thread, now it works like a charm.

SHO rules!

Ahh, and a small note, the boundary layer system for the flaps uses pressure bleed air from the turbine compressor stage, not the exhaust gases. At least as far as I know.



Cheers,
Mark

 

[Sedr37]

Wish Captain Sim have released F-104 for FSX, their model was superb!

 

[daisan]

Well, Merida72, in fact the Maniago Range video is with an old FS9 model, not with the FSX native plane.

Today is much more advanced in external/internal 3D, gauges, systems and flight dynamics. The simulation of all systems is really amazing, and for sure you can not compare any other zipper model in FSX with this one. Done and tested by real zipper drivers.

Not only S version in development, also G and ASA

Bone, I think that you can see the wings . I will confirm you this evening at home.

The scenery is dated too. New native for FSX version of Rimini AB with incredible detail, and for Maniago range too. Ask to 102 VSQN for them both in www.102virtual.org

Cheers

 

[kilo delta]

Well, Merida72, in fact the Maniago Range video is with an old FS9 model, not with the FSX native plane.

Today is much more advanced in external/internal 3D, gauges, systems and flight dynamics. The simulation of all systems is really amazing, and for sure you can not compare any other zipper model in FSX with this one. Done and tested by real zipper drivers.

Not only S version in development, also G and ASA

Bone, I think that you can see the wings . I will confirm you this evening at home.

The scenery is dated too. New native for FSX version of Rimini AB with incredible detail, and for Maniago range too. Ask to 102 VSQN for them both in www.102virtual.org

Cheers

Is this a closed group? I can't see a registration form.

 

[cortomalteseit]

Is this a closed group? I can't see a registration form.

yes, it is.
But you can download the same F-104 they use (the clean configuration only, not the armed) at
http://www.progettof104.102virtual.org/

There you need to register and fill an order form, then you'll receive an e-mail containing the direct link for the download.

The aircraft it's absolutely close to the real one, and it has been developed mainly by Cdr. Mario Motta, a real F-104 pilot during '80 years.
Everything has been done in this aircraft using the original flight manual, also downloadable from the site above said.
So, no story for others...
:salute:

Bye

 

[kilo delta]

yes, it is.
But you can download the same F-104 they use (the clean configuration only, not the armed) at
http://www.progettof104.102virtual.org/

There you need to register and fill an order form, then you'll receive an e-mail containing the direct link for the download.

The aircraft it's absolutely close to the real one, and it has been developed mainly by Cdr. Mario Motta, a real F-104 pilot during '80 years.
Everything has been done in this aircraft using the original flight manual, also downloadable from the site above said.
So, no story for others...
:salute:

Bye

Thanks! One final question....is the aircraft compiled with the FSX SDK...ie is it a native FSX version that'll run in FSX SP2/Acceleration without any portover issues?

 

[daisan]

FSX native 100%. No portover. DDS files. 100% DX10 compatible. We fly it in MP sessions in FSX/ACC and the outcomes are outstanding. Enjoy it!

 

[kilo delta]

FSX native 100%. No portover. DDS files. 100% DX10 compatible. We fly it in MP sessions in FSX/ACC and the outcomes are outstanding. Enjoy it!

:ernae:

 

[merida72]

Well, Merida72, in fact the Maniago Range video is with an old FS9 model, not with the FSX native plane.

Today is much more advanced in external/internal 3D, gauges, systems and flight dynamics. The simulation of all systems is really amazing, and for sure you can not compare any other zipper model in FSX with this one. Done and tested by real zipper drivers.

Not only S version in development, also G and ASA

Bone, I think that you can see the wings . I will confirm you this evening at home.

The scenery is dated too. New native for FSX version of Rimini AB with incredible detail, and for Maniago range too. Ask to 102 VSQN for them both in www.102virtual.org

Cheers

is true, of course, the video is with FS9 ...

but it was just an example to explain that the 102 boys have done a great job on the 3D model and flight model.

The flight model of CS and AS are not treated as the C9.

My intent was to explain this.

also there is a link in my post at 102 :ernae:

 

[hschuit]

FSX native 100%. No portover. DDS files. 100% DX10 compatible. We fly it in MP sessions in FSX/ACC and the outcomes are outstanding. Enjoy it!

Thanks daisan! I Just downloaded the installer and yes it includes 3 100% native models. They come in separate exterior and interior MDL's, the file headers read "MDLXMDLH". I will post a few screens over the next days.

 

[daisan]

I hope you'll enjoy it. It is not only 102 VSQN implied on it. It is the entire virtual organization named VAAFSE working on it. And improving other planes, creating needed scenery for the operations, and much more.

Cheers!

 

[kilo delta]

Purchased...just awaiting the d/l link.

 

[hschuit]

Finally got some time to install and fly the Progetto F104.

And some VC screens:
View attachment 22507View attachment 22510View attachment 22509View attachment 22508

BTW: Looking back over your shoulder, you cannot see the wings from inside the VC.

Earlier on this thread, delta_lima said "now about that beta '104 ... I have since ditched my CS copy, and I never bought the C9 ... but something looks familiar ... just can't put my finger on it .... looks nice, though " He was right, the model is a continued development from the old Cloud9 zipper. The guys from 102° Gruppo Virtuale have done a very good job, I really like the flight handling. Some other areas may still need improving, e.g. the exterior lacks a bit of shine (maybe it is a problem with my graphics card, don't know).

 

[kilo delta]

Thanks for the pics...still haven't installed my copy yet (haven't run fsx in months , maybe this weekend! ). If this is an upgrade of the old C9 model, will it take the old C9 paints?

 

[hschuit]

Thanks for the pics...still haven't installed my copy yet (haven't run fsx in months , maybe this weekend! ). If this is an upgrade of the old C9 model, will it take the old C9 paints?

I downloaded one of Andrea Arlotti's C9 repaints from FlightSim.com). First I had to rename the 3 unique exterior bitmaps:

F_104_001.bmp -> F104_T_01.bmp (fuselage pt 1)
F_104_002.bmp -> F104_T_02.bmp (wings)
F_104_003.bmp -> F104_T_03.bmp (fuselage pt 2)

Unfortunately they do not match 100%, some area's e.g. on top of the fuselage are mis-aligned.

PS, I just received this mail from 102 VSQN staff:
We are pleased to announce that we have released the stable version 2.6 of the airplane Aeritalia F104S, among the most important changes from earlier version 2.4:
- Includes armed versions in configurations with various external loads, the flight model is different and close to the real model for each configuration. The armed versions drop/launch weapons are as in the real using ground/air effects, no drop animation.
- New NATO texturing
- Corrected several small errors
- We suggest you read the changelog.txt file in the folder of the aircraft AERIT-F104S-V2-CLEAN
The upgrade from previous versions is free for those who have made donations before, simply enter the words "UPGRADE FROM 2.X" in order note

Also new sceneries has been released:
- Rimini-Miramare scenery, FSX native, both civilian and military airports
- Pula (LDPL) scenery, FSX native, both civilian and military airports
- Rimini and Romagna region photoreal scenery
- Istria central and southern part photoreal scenery, it correct errors and lacks of FSX default scenery.
cheers
102 VSQN staff

 

[kilo delta]

I downloaded one of Andrea Arlotti's C9 repaints from FlightSim.com). First I had to rename the 3 unique exterior bitmaps:

F_104_001.bmp -> F104_T_01.bmp (fuselage pt 1)
F_104_002.bmp -> F104_T_02.bmp (wings)
F_104_003.bmp -> F104_T_03.bmp (fuselage pt 2)

Unfortunately they do not match 100%, some area's e.g. on top of the fuselage are mis-aligned.

PS, I just received this mail from 102 VSQN staff:
We are pleased to announce that we have released the stable version 2.6 of the airplane Aeritalia F104S, among the most important changes from earlier version 2.4:
- Includes armed versions in configurations with various external loads, the flight model is different and close to the real model for each configuration. The armed versions drop/launch weapons are as in the real using ground/air effects, no drop animation.
- New NATO texturing
- Corrected several small errors
- We suggest you read the changelog.txt file in the folder of the aircraft AERIT-F104S-V2-CLEAN
The upgrade from previous versions is free for those who have made donations before, simply enter the words "UPGRADE FROM 2.X" in order note

Also new sceneries has been released:
- Rimini-Miramare scenery, FSX native, both civilian and military airports
- Pula (LDPL) scenery, FSX native, both civilian and military airports
- Rimini and Romagna region photoreal scenery
- Istria central and southern part photoreal scenery, it correct errors and lacks of FSX default scenery.
cheers
102 VSQN staff

Thanks for the HU...off to download the update right now!

 

[hschuit]

Some screens of Andrea Arlotti's Cloud9 repaint on the Progetto 104:
View attachment 22513View attachment 22514
It almost fits, only some white area's on top and bottom fuselage and the newly added "S" model ventral fins do not line up. I am not a paint expert but maybe some of the artists out there can fix it.

 

[hschuit]

Andrea Arlotti's Cloud9 repaint on the Progetto F-104S: Fixed now

 

[kilo delta]

Shweeeeeeeeeeeeet!!! Makes me wanna load up my sim now!