Alphasim Hallybags are now released & development thread!

[MaskRider]

H-P Halifax GIIIA 58Sq-RAF Mar45:

Great stuff, UT!

MR

 

[Ravenna]

Wonderful work. What a Herculean output! Thanks Uncle!!

 

[Shessi]

Hi John,
What a great selection! (glad you did a CC version!), fantastic, love a Hallibag and these add a lot of choices. Thank you.

Actually the cooling gills weren't animated on the original Fs2004 version, which is strange as they are individually modelled. I think someone forgot or couldn't be bothered..ha ha!

Cheers

Shessi

 

[MaskRider]

Hi Guys,

I am sure the following tidbit is old news to most, but I had never messed around with these BIII birds before so I had never noticed.

Its just a little oddity with the way the exhaust pipes are mounted on these Halifax radial engines.

On the port wing, the exhaust pipe on the outboard engine is mounted on the outboard side. On inboard engine, it is on the inboard side.

On the starboard wing, both engines have the exhaust pipes installed on the outboard side.

I "googled" on it and apparently it just a little quirk in the way the BIII Halifax is constructed. Not quite clear about it.

Now I ask ya, is that fascinating or what? ;^)

Cheers,
MR

PS: Just out of curiosity I went and had a look at the Halton models. Interestingly, the exhaust pipes are mounted the same on both wings. However, they both face each other. The outboard engine exhaust is mounted inboard and the inboard engine exhaust is mounted outboard.

Yes, I do seem tom have way too much time on my hands.

MR

 

[dvslats]

Yes, I do seem tom have way too much time on my hands.

MR

Maybe there were more left-handed than right-handed exhaust manifolds made? Just kidding. I'm sure there was a reason, but that one is a tough nut to crack.

On another note, I had to bring her out in the sunlight. A lot of hours went into this.

Thanks Uncle!

 

[UncleTgt]

Chris & Dave,

Thanks for the gorgeous screen grabs, they really do show her off well. Rami, Ravenna, Stuart 277 & Shessi etc, thanks for the kind comments.

Shessi, would be nice to have: - multi-LOD, model options showing rounded wingtips, H2S or no H2S, ventral gun (especially RCAF birds), & change in fuselage modelling to better detail the nose art (again, especially the RCAF birds). Maybe fuselage split into front & rear halves like the stockers?

Sgt John Charles Burdett

I came across this story quite by accident a few years ago. My family surname is quite rare, so to come across the news story of "Tommy the Tourist" & find the W/Op gunner was my namesake struck a chord. I decided at some point I should commemorate this crew in some small way, especially important to me as these stories pass from living memory, almost un-noticed, which I find uncomfortable.

Serving in RAF Bomber Command during WW2 was no picnic, & these guys often did not get the post-war recognition they deserved (an uncomfortable truth).

This view was reinforced as I researched some repaints & came across some excellent RCAF web resources, with detailed aircraft histories. "Moonlight Mermaid" is especially poignant, as it carried crews into battle for 80 missions, only to be cut down on it's 81st mission close to the end of the war.
See here for lots of detail https://clarencesimonsen745590793.files.wordpress.com/2019/04/moonlight-mermaid.pdf

Back to the RAF birds, nobody seemed to have depicted the "ton-Up" Hallybags, or the single VC Halifax, so they were easy choices. The Coastal Command night war against the Norway-Denmark surface vessel traffic during 1945 likewise was another enlightening find, & this with the weather recon casualties provided some unusual repaint subject matter, again by way of commemoration.

I'm glad you enjoyed these uploads.

 

[MaskRider]

Hiya Guys,

Well, what with this latest release by UncleTgt I was forced to go through all of my old Halifax files and get them in some sort of order.

First by consolidating them all into one Halifaxes folder in my download folder and then systematizing what and in what order information shows up in the ac.cfg files and thereby in the AC drop down list.

Actually it got pretty involved and I ha some real fun tracking down information about the individual AC based upon the oft times very sketchy information included in the readme files!

But going a lot by the model numbers and serial numbers showing in the texture files I was able to track down some pretty useful information about most of these AC. Found a couple of useful webites, too.

Any way, In case anyone is interested here is a list of all the Halifaxes I have installed either in my AIRCRAFT folder or else sitting in my Halifax Hangar.

There are a ton of them! I break out all of the multiple cfg file entries into their own separate aircraft folders then alias all of the sounds and panels to external folders.

Here is a list of the 41 I have (KEY: AFS = AF Scrubbs; AO = ALPHASim Oldies; SH = Shessi; ALPHA-PRZ = ALPHASim-Peperez; Alpha-SC = ALPHASim-SopwithChameleon; ALPHA-UT = ALPHASim-UncleTgt.)

CFS2 Halifax List
1. AFS_Halifax B.MkII S1A
2. AO_H-P Halifax BIII Fri-13th LV907 158RAF
3. AO_H-P Halifax BIII MZ431 462RAAF Late44
4. AO_H-P Halifax BVI RG610 102RAF Pocklington
5. SH_H-P Halifax BI
6. SH_H-P Halifax BI 35RAF Linton-On-Ouse 40-41
7. SH_H-P Halifax BII
8. SH_H-P Halifax BII 10SRAF Yorkshire 1943
9. SH_H-P Halifax BII 35SRAF Linton-on-Ouse 41-42
10. SH_H-P Halifax BII 76SRAF Middle-East 1943
11. SH_H-P Halifax GRII
12. SH_H-P Halifax GRII HR686-502RAF 1944
13. ALPHA-PRZ H-P Halifax BIII RG610 RAF-Pocklington Oct44
14. ALPHA-PRZ H-P Halifax BVI L8-P 347Sqn-FFAF RAF-Elvington
15. ALPHA-PRZ H-P Halifax BVII A-PN369 SEAC-RAF India1944
16. ALPHA-PRZ H-P Halifax BVII PP169 RAF-Lissett Apr45
17. ALPHA-PRZ H-P Halifax GRVI Coastal-Command
18. ALPHA-SC H-P Halifax Coastal Command
19. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax BIII 51RAF_MAR45
20. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax BIII 78RAF_NOV44
21. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax BIII 158RAF_APR45
22. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax BIII 346RAF_DEC44
23. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax BIII 432RCAF_MAR44
24. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax BIII 466RAAF_APR45
25. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax BIII 578RAF_MAR44
26. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax BIII 640RAF MAR44
27. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax BIII 1341RAF_MAY45
28. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax BVI 102RAF_DEC44
29. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax BVI 102RAF_OCT45
30. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax BVI 347RAF_JAN45
31. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax BVI 640RAF_MAR45
32. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax-CVIII_301RAF 46
33. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax-CVIII_BAAS_49
34. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax-CVIII_LAC_49
35. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax GRIIIa 58RAF MAR45
36. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax GRIII 502RAF APR45
37. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax MetIII 518SRAF MAY45
38. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax MetVI 202RAF SEP46
39. ALPHA-UT H-P Halton BOAC_47
40. ALPHA-UT H-P Halton Westminster-Air_49
41. ALPHA-UT H-P Halton Westminster-Air_50

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Cheers,
MR

 

[Ravenna]

I'm having some trouble adding the B.VI Halifaxes. I've opened the zip, made a new folder for each aircraft, extracted the Aircraft.cfg from the texture folder and added the common files to each aircraft folder, as well as adding the sound and panel folders from the ALPHA Halifax BIII UT download. My problem is that I have been looking for the model files. What am I getting wrong here? I had always assumed that the model name matched the sim= (name).

 

[MaskRider]

I'm having some trouble adding the B.VI Halifaxes. I've opened the zip, made a new folder for each aircraft, extracted the Aircraft.cfg from the texture folder and added the common files to each aircraft folder, as well as adding the sound and panel folders from the ALPHA Halifax BIII UT download. My problem is that I have been looking for the model files. What am I getting wrong here? I had always assumed that the model name matched the sim= (name).

Hiya Ravenna

I believe the key to the conundrum is this sentence from UT's readme for the BVI:

This is my impression of the Halifax BVI based on the Alphasim Halifax BIII.

Pretty sure he uses the model from the ALPHA_Halifax_BIII_UT pack as the model. That's what I used anyway.

WRT

I had always assumed that the model name matched the sim= (name)

I have no idea whether this is true or not.

Cheers,
MR

 

[UncleTgt]

Ravenna

Maskrider is correct.

IIRC the only .MDL filenames that need to match the sim= (name) are SHIP models - who knows why

Maskrider

Some of my repaints are duplicates/ re-imaginings of Pepe's etc., so there are some duplicates in amongst that list.

Still, 41 Hallybags is almost Team Daedelus territory ...

 

[Ravenna]

Thanks guys. That's another assumption scratched off my slate.

 

[MaskRider]

Maskrider

Some of my repaints are duplicates/ re-imaginings of Pepe's etc., so there are some duplicates in amongst that list.

Still, 41 Hallybags is almost Team Daedelus territory ...

Hiya UT,

Thanks for checking the list.

Hmmmm... two jump out at me as a possible dupes.

First, is the BVI 347Squadron entry. However when I go in and look at the texture files Peperez's Serial# is NP767 and Unit code is L8-P. Yours are PN167 and L8-Z. Plus the nose art is different on both planes and red diamond on yours is overlaid with a Z and Peperez's by P. So I'll leave that be.

Second, is Peperez's BIII RG610 (102Sqd) Oct44 entry and your BVI 102RAF (Also RG610) entry. Except for the Halifax Model number they are duplicates from a texture standpoint- almost any way. :^)

So, the only diff seems to be the AC model number. I rechecked to make sure. Peperez has his down as a BIII and in your package it's down as a BVI.

No big deal at all. Its kinda fun chewing over the details sometimes.

Thanks UT,
MR

 

[UncleTgt]

MR, just for completeness ...

2. AO_H-P Halifax BIII Fri-13th LV907 158RAF
same aircraft as
21. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax BIII 158RAF_APR45

4. AO_H-P Halifax BVI RG610 102RAF Pocklington
same as
13. ALPHA-PRZ H-P Halifax BIII RG610 RAF-Pocklington Oct44
and also same as
29. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax BVI 102RAF_OCT45
a/c serial number means it's a BVI, & underwing serial numbers means it's post VE day.

15. ALPHA-PRZ H-P Halifax BVII A-PN369 SEAC-RAF India1944
same as
27. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax BIII 1341RAF_MAY45
a/c serial number means it's a BIII

17. ALPHA-PRZ H-P Halifax GRVI Coastal-Command
near equivalent to
35. ALPHA-UT H-P Halifax GRIIIa 58RAF MAR45
the few grey/white serial numbers I could come up with were GRIIIs, & the postwar GRVI usually had the mid-upper turret removed

I'll stop now...

 

[MaskRider]

LOL! Okay, you've made your point.

Forget the list.

MR

 

[Roxane-21]

Thank you for all these. I particularly appreciate the French skins.