Alphasim have updated their A-3 Skywarrior.

Ferry_vO

Ferry_vO

Retired SOH Administrator
New update package added to the USA section - the A-3 Skywarrior ! AlphaSim's 2005 release of the Skywarrior was long overdue for a makeover, so here is an extensive updated package for this versatile US Navy Cold War jet. Please note - this is NOT a new release as such, we have taken the 2005 model and improved and extended it in many ways, but the essential 'style' is still 2003 FS2004 and should not be confused with all-new FSX releases. The very favourable pricing of this large model package reflects this.
Here's the package in full :
SIX model variants : A-3B, EA-3B, KA-3B, RA-3B, EKA-3B and ERA-3B
THIRTEEN texture sets : yes, 13 ! All by Pierre Lheureux and very detailed
Soundset now included
V-C is unchanged from 2005 version, but gauges are now direct-mapped so no gauge 'floating'
Crew are now togglable
Leading edge slats now operate automatically, distinct from flaps
KA models have extendable refuelling hose
Improved v-c glazing textures
New cockpit overhead escape hatch
Wing spoilers now correctly animated as spoilerons
V-C now includes all external model parts which would be visible
Automatic smoke and wingtip vortex FX
Tailhook lever in v-c now mousable

For FS2004 only. Filesize : 44MB
Price : approx. $20 USD, £13.50, 15 EUR, 28.50 AUD

http://www.alphasim.co.uk/index2.html
 
I'm really glad that alphasim has updated the whale model. But I'm kind of disappointed with the update. The model is good, but the gauge package should have been updated. The fuel, crew weights, engine thrust settings and flap position settings should have been better.


So here is a revised cfg reflecting the proper settings. These were all obtained from the Navy Historical Branch records. Just cut and paste:
[General]
performance=Model: AlphaSim\nPanel: H Pralle\nTextures: P Lheureux\nFlight Model: J. McDaniel\n\nLength: 76 ft 4 in\nSpan: 72 ft 6 in\nWing area: 812 sq ft\nWeight: Empty: 39,409 lbs\s loaded, 82,000 lbs.\nPower: (2) Pratt & Whitney J-57-P-10 Turbojet, 10,500 lbs thrust\nRange: 1,050 miles\nMax Speed: 610 m.p.h @ 10,000 ft\nService Ceiling: 41,000 ft.\nArmament: (2) 20 mm trainable cannon, radar-aimed, and up to 12,000 lbs of ordnance in an internal weapons bay.
editable=1
atc_type=DOUGLAS
atc_model=A3

[lights]

//Types: 1=beacon, 2=strobe, 3=navigation, 4=cockpit, 5=landing


light.0 = 3, -30.65, -0.45, 17.7, fx_navwhi
light.1 = 3, -30.65, 0.45, 17.7, fx_navwhi
light.2 = 3, 6.89, 0.00, 4.75, fx_beacon ; top
light.3 = 3, -4.60, 0.00, -3.12, fx_beacon ; btm
light.4 = 4, 28.26, -1.64, 2.11, fx_vclight ; pilot
light.5 = 4, 26.11, 1.61, 2.66, fx_vclight ; nav
light.6 = 4, 23.10, -1.99, 3.05, fx_vclight ; crewchief

light.7 = 7, -17.0, -35.35, 1.70, fx_ALPHA_B66_Wcontrail // Contrail_L
light.8= 7, -17.0, 35.35, 1.70, fx_ALPHA_B66_Wcontrail // Contrail_R

light.9= 8, -12.20, -20.15, 1.30, fx_ALPHA_B66_Wcontrail // Flap_Contrail_L
light.10= 8, -12.20, 20.15, 1.30, fx_ALPHA_B66_Wcontrail // Flap_Contrail_R

//light.11= 9, 2.47, -13.77, -0.77, fx_ALPHA_B66_Exh // Exhaust_L glow optional
//light.12=10, 2.47, 13.77, -0.77, fx_ALPHA_B66_Exh // Exhaust_R glow optional

[smokesystem]
smoke.0 = 0.00, -0.77, -13.77, fx_ALPHA_B66_smoke
smoke.1 = 0.00, -0.77, 13.77, fx_ALPHA_B66_smoke

[weight_and_balance]

// ACM V2.5
max_gross_weight = 82000
empty_weight = 39409
reference_datum_position = 0, 0, 0
empty_weight_CG_position = 0, 0, 0
empty_weight_pitch_MOI = 278670
empty_weight_roll_MOI = 109624
empty_weight_yaw_MOI = 279527
empty_weight_coupled_MOI = 0
CG_forward_limit = 0.000
CG_aft_limit = 1.000
max_number_of_stations = 3

station_load.0 = 200.000000, 27.110000, -1.490000, 2.660000, Station 1
station_load.1 = 195.000000, 25.680000, 1.580000, 2.630000, Station 2
station_load.2 = 200.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, 0.000000, Station 3


[GeneralEngineData]

//0=Piston, 1=Jet, 2=None, 3=Helo-Turbine, 4=Rocket, 5=Turboprop
engine_type = 1
fuel_flow_scalar = 1.000
min_throttle_limit = 0.000000
engine.0 = 0.000, -14.000, 0.000
engine.1 = 0.000, 14.000, 0.000

[effects]
windshield_rain_effect_available = 1

[fuel]

//Longitudinal (feet), Lateral (feet), Vertical (feet), Usable(gallons), Unusable (gallons)

fuel_type = 2
number_of_tank_selectors = 1
electric_pump = 1

Center1 = 4, 0, 0, 1814, 3
Center2=-4,0,0,1300,3
LeftMain=0,-10,0,649,1
RightMain=0,10,0,649,1


[contact_points]
static_pitch = 4.59
static_cg_height = 6.61
tailwheel_lock = 0
gear_system_type = 1
max_number_of_points = 8

point.0 = 1.000, 25.350, 0.000, -8.650, 1574.803, 0.000, 1.250, 45.0, 0.248, 2.500, 0.782, 6.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.1 = 1.000, -2.150, -5.400, -6.600, 1875.173, 1.000, 1.700, 0.000, 0.213, 2.500, 0.789, 5.000, 5.000, 2.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.2 = 1.000, -2.150, 5.400, -6.600, 1875.173, 2.000, 0.793, 0.000, 0.213, 2.500, 0.789, 5.000, 5.000, 3.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.3 = 2.000, -13.167, -35.934, 1.840, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 5.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.4 = 2.000, -13.167, 36.048, 1.839, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 6.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.5 = 2.000, -18.949, 0.000, -3.713, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 9.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.6 = 2.000, 33.581, 0.000, -2.984, 1574.803, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 0.000, 4.000, 0.000, 0.000
point.7= 5, 0.00, 0.00, 0.00, 2000.00, 0, 0.00, 0.00, 0.00, 0.00, 0.00, 3.10, 3.10, 0, 0, 0 //Water Rudder for animations

[keyboard_response]
elevator = 150.000000, 250.000000
aileron = 150.000000, 150.000000
rudder = 150.000000, 250.000000


[forcefeedback]
gear_bump_nose_magnitude = 1000
gear_bump_nose_direction = 18000
gear_bump_nose_duration = 250000
gear_bump_left_magnitude = 2000
gear_bump_left_direction = 35500
gear_bump_left_duration = 250000
gear_bump_right_magnitude = 2000
gear_bump_right_direction = 500
gear_bump_right_duration = 250000
ground_bumps_magnitude1 = 1250
ground_bumps_angle1 = 8900
ground_bumps_intercept1 = 5
ground_bumps_slope1 = 0.48
ground_bumps_magnitude2 = 450
ground_bumps_angle2 = 9100
ground_bumps_intercept2 = 0.075
ground_bumps_slope2 = 1
crash_magnitude1 = 2000
crash_direction1 = 1000
crash_magnitude2 = 2000
crash_direction2 = 9000
crash_period2 = 7500
crash_duration2 = 2500000
stick_shaker_magnitude = 2000
stick_shaker_direction = 0
stick_shaker_period = 111111

[airplane_geometry]
//ACM_AREAW1// 0,0,0,5.0560,1.2063,1.2063,0.9423,5.7456,2.4126,2.4126
//ACM_AREAW2// 1.8846,6.4354,3.6189,3.6189,2.8273,7.125,4.8253,4.8253,3.7699,7.8147
//ACM_AREAW3// 6.0314,6.0314,4.7122,8.5044,7.2378,7.2378,5.6549,9.1941,8.4441,8.4441
//ACM_AREAW4// 6.5974,9.8837,9.6506,9.6506,7.5398,10.5733,10.8570,10.8570,8.4820,11.2629
//ACM_AREAH1// 0,0,0,2.4697,0.4115,0.4115,0.3215,2.6679,0.8231,0.8231
//ACM_AREAH2// 0.6431,2.8661,1.2348,1.2348,0.9648,3.0641,1.6464,1.6464,1.2863,3.2623
//ACM_AREAH3// 2.0581,2.0581,1.6080,3.4605,2.4697,2.4697,1.9296,3.6586,2.8815,2.8815
//ACM_AREAH4// 2.2513,3.8566,3.2931,3.2931,2.5729,4.0548,3.7047,3.7047,2.8945,4.2529
//ACM_AREAV1// 0,0,0,4.2062,0.4672,0.4672,0.5569,4.4267,0.9347,0.9347
//ACM_AREAV2// 1.1138,4.6470,1.4019,1.4019,1.6708,4.8675,1.8694,1.8694,2.2279,5.0880
//ACM_AREAV3// 2.3368,2.3368,2.7848,5.3085,2.8041,2.8041,3.3417,5.5290,3.2715,3.2715
//ACM_AREAV4// 3.8987,5.7494,3.7388,3.7388,4.4558,5.9699,4.2062,4.2062,5.0128,6.1904
//ACM_CAREAW1// 5.4285,5.4285,6.7691,7.7803,6.0314,6.0314,7.2403,8.2011,6.6346,6.6346
//ACM_CAREAW2// 7.7115,8.6218,7.2378,7.2378,8.1829,9.0424,7.8411,7.8411,8.6541,9.4631
//ACM_CAREAW3// 8.4441,8.4441,9.1253,9.8837,9.0474,9.0474,9.5965,10.3044,9.6506,9.6506
//ACM_CAREAW4// 10.0677,10.7250,10.2538,10.2538,10.5389,11.1457,10.8570,10.8570,11.0101,11.5663
//ACM_CAREAH1// 0,0,1.2348,2.4697,0.4115,0.4115,1.5564,2.7297,0.8231,0.8231
//ACM_CAREAH2// 1.8781,2.9895,1.2348,1.2348,2.1997,3.2495,1.6464,1.6464,2.5213,3.5092
//ACM_CAREAH3// 2.0581,2.0581,2.8429,3.7692,2.4697,2.4697,3.1645,4.0290,2.8815,2.8815
//ACM_CAREAH4// 3.4862,4.2888,3.2931,3.2931,3.8078,4.5487,3.7047,3.7047,4.1293,4.8087
//ACM_CAREAV1// 0,0,1.0514,3.1545,0.4672,0.4672,1.6085,3.5434,0.9347,0.9347
//ACM_CAREAV2// 2.1654,3.9321,1.4019,1.4019,2.7223,4.3207,1.8694,1.8694,3.2794,4.7094
//ACM_CAREAV3// 2.3368,2.3368,3.8364,5.0982,2.8041,2.8041,4.3934,5.4869,3.2715,3.2715
//ACM_CAREAV4// 4.9503,5.8756,3.7388,3.7388,5.5072,6.2645,4.2062,4.2062,6.0643,6.6532
wing_area = 812.000
wing_span = 72.500
wing_root_chord = 16.580
wing_dihedral = -5.000
wing_incidence = 0.000
wing_twist = 0.000
oswald_efficiency_factor = 0.850
wing_winglets_flag = 0
wing_sweep = 37.000
wing_pos_apex_lon = 14.750
wing_pos_apex_vert = 0.000
htail_area = 100.000
htail_span = 24.310
htail_pos_lon = -18.600
htail_pos_vert = 0.000
htail_incidence = 0.000
htail_sweep = 38.000
vtail_area = 120.000
vtail_span = 13.800
vtail_sweep = 50.000
vtail_pos_lon = -12.010
vtail_pos_vert = 4.780
elevator_area = 60.000
aileron_area = 80.000
rudder_area = 40.000
elevator_up_limit = 28.000
elevator_down_limit = 22.000
aileron_up_limit = 20.000
aileron_down_limit = 15.000
rudder_limit = 22.000
elevator_trim_limit = 18.000
spoiler_limit = 60.000
aileron_to_spoileron_gain = 0.000
spoiler_handle_available = 1
min_ailerons_for_spoilerons = 0.000
min_flaps_for_spoilerons = 0.000
spoilerons_available = 0

[Radios]
// Radio Type = availiable, standby frequency, has glide slope
Audio.1 = 1
Com.1 = 1, 1
Com.2 = 1, 1
Nav.1 = 1, 0, 1
Nav.2 = 1, 0, 0
Adf.1 = 1
Transponder.1 = 1
Marker.1 = 1

[electrical]
max_battery_voltage = 24
generator_alternator_voltage = 28
max_generator_alternator_amps = 50
engine_generator_map = 1,1
electric_always_available = 0
flap_motor = 0, 5, 0
gear_motor = 0, 5, 0
autopilot = 0, 5, 0
avionics_bus = 0, 10, 0
avionics = 1, 5, 0
pitot_heat = 0, 2, 0
additional_system = 0, 20, 0
marker_beacon = 1, 2, 0
gear_warning = 0, 2, 0
fuel_pump = 0, 5, 0
starter1 = 0, 20, 0
light_nav = 0, 5, 0
light_beacon = 0, 5, 0
light_landing = 0, 5, 0
light_taxi = 0, 5, 0
light_strobe = 0, 5, 0
light_panel = 0, 5, 0

[exits]
number_of_exits=2
exit_rate.0=0.5
exit_rate.1=0.5

[TailHook]
tailhook_length = 4
tailhook_position = -15, 0, -1
cable_force_adjust = 1


[Views]
eyepoint=27.0, -1.5, 3.75

[TurbineEngineData]
fuel_flow_gain=0.002
inlet_area=5.000
rated_N2_rpm=29920.000
static_thrust=12400.000
afterburner_available=0
reverser_available=0.000

[Reference Speeds]
flaps_up_stall_speed=129.5
full_flaps_stall_speed=100.1
cruise_speed=452
max_indicated_speed=585
max_mach=0.9

[autopilot]
autopilot_available=1
flight_director_available=1
default_vertical_speed=1800.000000
autothrottle_available=1
autothrottle_arming_required=0
autothrottle_takeoff_ga=0
autothrottle_max_rpm=90.000000
pitch_takeoff_ga=8.000000
max_pitch=10.000000
max_pitch_acceleration=1.000000
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt=2.000000
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt=1.500000
max_pitch_velocity_lo_alt_breakpoint=20000.000000
max_pitch_velocity_hi_alt_breakpoint=28000.000000
max_bank=25.000000
max_bank_acceleration=1.800000
max_bank_velocity=3.000000
max_throttle_rate=0.100000
nav_proportional_control=9.000000
nav_integrator_control=0.250000
nav_derivative_control=0.000000
nav_integrator_boundary=2.500000
nav_derivative_boundary=0.000000
gs_proportional_control=9.520000
gs_integrator_control=0.260000
gs_derivative_control=0.000000
gs_integrator_boundary=0.700000
gs_derivative_boundary=0.000000
yaw_damper_gain=0.000000

[direction_indicators]
direction_indicator.0=3,0

[brakes]
toe_brakes_scale=0.7
parking_brake=1
[gear_warning_system]
gear_warning_available=1
pct_throttle_limit=1
flap_limit_power=25
flap_limit_idle=5
[hydraulic_system]
electric_pumps=0
engine_map=1,0,0,0
normal_pressure=3000.000000
[stall_warning]
type=1
[attitude_indicators]
attitude_indicator.0=1
[turn_indicators]
turn_indicator.0=1,0

[folding_wings]
wing_fold_system_type = 4 ;0=None
fold_rates = 0.12,0.11 ;Percent per second

[Flaps.0]
type= 1
span-outboard= 0.500
extending-time= 5.000
system_type= 0
damaging-speed= 350.000
blowout-speed= 500.000
lift_scalar= 1.000
drag_scalar= 1.000
pitch_scalar= 1.000
flaps-position.0= 0.000, 0.000
flaps-position.1= 25.000, 0.000
flaps-position.2= 50.000, 0.000


[Flaps.1]
type= 2
span-outboard= 0.5
extending-time= 2.000
system_type= 0
damaging-speed= 300.000
blowout-speed= 350.000
lift_scalar= 1.000
drag_scalar= 1.000
pitch_scalar= 1.000
flaps-position.0=0
flaps-position.1=0.25
flaps-position.2=0.5
flaps-position.3=0.75
flaps-position.4=1.0

[Flaps.2]
type= 2
span-outboard= 0.5
extending-time= 2.000
system_type= 0
damaging-speed= 300.000
blowout-speed= 350.000
lift_scalar= 1.000
drag_scalar= 1.000
pitch_scalar= 1.000
flaps-position.0=0
flaps-position.1=0.25
flaps-position.2=0.5
flaps-position.3=0.75
flaps-position.4=1.0

I've also updated the panel using the B-66 gauges. I think that this is the product that should have been delivered. In my opinion, after buying this product that alphasim fell short of their usual good product.
 
johndetrick said:
I'm really glad that alphasim has updated the whale model. But I'm kind of disappointed with the update. The model is good, but the gauge package should have been updated. The fuel, crew weights, engine thrust settings and flap position settings should have been better.

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I've also updated the panel using the B-66 gauges. I think that this is the product that should have been delivered. In my opinion, after buying this product that alphasim fell short of their usual good product.
Click to expand...

Thank you for posting your mods!

There were some very unfortunate manpower issues with this one, specifically medical and related to our guy who did (or does, hard to know) the FS9 effects and glass gauges, so that it was almost shelved indefinitely. There are images in the beta site with a glassy gauge set in place. But that is as much as any of us saw.

Your revised panel looks great. Would you mind posting your panel.cfg changes as well for those of us who do have both aircraft and still do fly in FS9 on occasion? It would be much appreciated.
:ernae:
 
Sorry to hear of the problems incurred while developing the update. Here are the instructions for the panel update. First copy both the A-3 and B-66 CAB files from the panel folders to the main Gauges folder in FS9. Then copy the electric panel bitmap from the B-66 panel folder to the A-3 panel folder. And last, here is the revised panel cfg:



// This Panel.cfg file created by FS Panel Studio panel editor utility - http://www.fspanelstudio.com
// Built Sunday, January 11, 2009 at 09:50 FSPS Build:20340

[Window Titles]
Window00=Main Panel
Window01=Overhead Panel
Window02=Yoke
Window03=Autopilot
Window04=Radio
Window05=GPS
Window06=Mini Panel


[VIEWS]
VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=MAIN_PANEL,THROTTLE_PANEL,COMPASS_PANEL

VIEW_FORWARD_ZOOM=0.800
VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=4.000, 0.000, 0.000



//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window00]
file=Main Panel.BMP
size_mm=1024,768
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=1
visible=1
ident=MAIN_PANEL

gauge00=ALPHA_A-3!N2RPM, 783,407,120,120
gauge01=ALPHA_A-3!OILTEMP, 783,530,120,120
gauge02=ALPHA_A-3!FUELPRFL, 783,656,120,120
gauge03=ALPHA_A-3!RADAR, 893,265,20,20
gauge04=ALPHA_A-3!EFTCU, 902,549,126,218
gauge05=ALPHA_A-3!GEAR, 920,499,68,53
gauge06=ALPHA_A-3!HOOK, 0,648,90,120
gauge07=ALPHA_A-3!HOOK LIGHT, 128,582,28,29
gauge08=ALPHA_A-3!MASTER LIGHTS, 495,362,95,30
gauge09=ALPHA_A-3!LIGHTS, 640,350,150,46
gauge10=ALPHA_A-3!ETI, 481,686,42,64
gauge11=ALPHA_A-3!SWITCH AVI, 213,471,26,33
gauge12=ALPHA_A-3!Yoke Icon, 430,700,50,50
gauge13=Simicons1024!Overhead Icon, 803,373,18,18
gauge14=Simicons1024!ATC Icon, 824, 373 ,18,18
gauge15=Simicons1024!Kneeboard Icon, 845,373,18,18
gauge16=Simicons1024!Radio Icon, 249,442,18,18
gauge17=Simicons1024!GPS Icon, 249,463,18,18
gauge18=Simicons1024!Map Icon, 249,484,18,18
gauge19=ALPHA_A-3!AP Icon, 402,376,18,18
gauge20=ALPHA_A-3!AP Switch, 429,376,18,18
gauge21=ALPHA_A-3!airbrake, 110,620,28,29
gauge22=ALPHA_B-66!ATT, 537,407,120,120
gauge23=ALPHA_B-66!VSI, 537,530,120,120
gauge24=ALPHA_B-66!ALT, 291,530,120,120
gauge25=ALPHA_B-66!IAS, 291,407,120,120
gauge26=ALPHA_B-66!RADALT, 168,530,120,120
gauge27=ALPHA_B-66!TSI, 537,656,120,120
gauge28=ALPHA_B-66!TOTALFUEL, 660,656,120,120
gauge29=ALPHA_B-66!MACH, 660,530,120,120
gauge30=ALPHA_B-66!TRI, 414,407,128,127
gauge31=ALPHA_B-66!ADI, 414,530,120,120
gauge32=autosmoke!autosmoke, 20,219,20,20
gauge33=ALPHA_B-66!RADIO DME, 805,270,90,42
gauge34=ALPHA_B-66!RMI, 660,407,120,120
gauge35=ALPHA_B-66!GFI, 290,664,96,98
gauge36=ALPHA_B-66!FLAPS, 90,664,96,100
gauge37=ALPHA_B-66!CLOCK, 190,664,100,100


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window01]
file=Overhead Panel.BMP
size_mm=1024,175
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=1
visible=1
ident=OVERHEAD_PANEL

gauge00=ALPHA_A-3!OH Switches, 617,39,251,45
gauge01=ALPHA_A-3!COMPASS, 895,38,55,55


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window02]
file=Yoke window.BMP
size_mm=1024
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=7
visible=0
ident=1001

gauge00=ALPHA_A-3!Yoke, 0,0
gauge01=ALPHA_A-3!Yoke Icon, 430,250


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window03]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=200,300
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=0
visible=0
ident=1002
window_size= 0.195, 0.391
window_pos= 0.790, 0.590

gauge00=ALPHA_B-66!AP, 0,0,200,300


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window04]
file=Electric Panel.BMP
size_mm=270,768
window_size_ratio=1.000
position=2
visible=0
ident=RADIO_STACK_PANEL
window_size= 0.264, 1.000
window_pos= 0.736, 0.510

gauge00=ALPHA_B-66!RADIO NAV1, 2,4,130,74
gauge01=ALPHA_B-66!RADIO NAV2, 2,78,130,74
gauge02=ALPHA_B-66!RADIO COM1, 2,153,130,74
gauge03=ALPHA_B-66!RADIO COM SEL, 2,229,130,36
gauge04=ALPHA_B-66!RADIO COM2, 2,267,130,74
gauge05=ALPHA_B-66!LIGHT CONTROLLS, 137,4,130,36
gauge06=ALPHA_B-66!RADIO DME, 137,41,130,36
gauge07=ALPHA_B-66!AUDIO CONTROLLS, 137,78,130,36
gauge08=ALPHA_B-66!RADIO ADF, 137,115,130,74
gauge09=ALPHA_B-66!RADIO TRN, 137,190,130,74
gauge10=ALPHA_B-66!OTHER CONTROLLS, 137,266,130,74


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window05]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=545,354
position=6
visible=0
ident=GPS_PANEL
window_size= 0.500, 0.362
window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

gauge00=fs9gps!gps_295, 0,0,545,354


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Window06]
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=730,125
position=7
visible=1
ident=MINIPANEL
nomenu=1
child_3d=1

gauge00=ALPHA_B-66!N2RPM2, 610,0,120,120
gauge01=ALPHA_B-66!N2RPM1, 488,0,120,120
gauge02=ALPHA_B-66!EGT2, 366,0,120,120
gauge03=ALPHA_B-66!EGT1, 244,0,120,120
gauge04=ALPHA_A-3!EPR2, 122,0,120,122
gauge05=ALPHA_A-3!EPR1, 0,0,120,120


//--------------------------------------------------------
[Vcockpit01]
file=$vpanel.bmp
Background_color=0,0,0
size_mm=1024,1024
visible=0
pixel_size=1024,1024
texture=$vpanel

gauge00=ALPHA_A-3!N2RPM, 873,367,149,153
gauge01=ALPHA_A-3!OILTEMP, 873,520,149,153
gauge02=ALPHA_A-3!FUELPRFL, 873,679,149,153
gauge03=ALPHA_A-3!RADAR, 5,16,227,236
gauge04=ALPHA_A-3!GEAR, 388,31,80,52
gauge05=ALPHA_A-3!HOOK LIGHT, 47,585,42,39
gauge06=ALPHA_A-3!MASTER LIGHTS, 511,309,121,41
gauge07=ALPHA_A-3!LIGHTS, 696,300,198,55
gauge08=ALPHA_A-3!ETI, 492,715,64,86
gauge09=ALPHA_A-3!SWITCH AVI, 160,460,35,40
gauge10=Simicons1024!Overhead Icon, 895,323,25,25
gauge11=Simicons1024!ATC Icon, 922,323,25,25
gauge12=Simicons1024!Kneeboard Icon, 949,323,25,25
gauge13=Simicons1024!Radio Icon, 223,446,25,25
gauge14=Simicons1024!GPS Icon, 199, 446 ,25,25
gauge15=Simicons1024!Map Icon, 199,470,25,25
gauge16=ALPHA_A-3!AP Icon, 392,326,25,25
gauge17=ALPHA_A-3!AP Switch, 426,326,25,25
gauge18=ALPHA_A-3!EPR1, 11,828,70,70
gauge19=ALPHA_A-3!EPR2, 104,828,70,70
gauge20=ALPHA_A-3!autoslatsSPD, 0,0,10,10
gauge21=ALPHA_A-3!B66_Flap_Cond_WING, 0,0,10,10
gauge22=ALPHA_A-3!B66_Jetsmoke, 0,0,10,10
gauge23=ALPHA_A-3!B66_Contrail_REC, 0,0,10,10
gauge24=ALPHA_A-3!B66_Exhaust, 0,0,10,10
gauge25=ALPHA_B-66!IAS, 255,367,149,153
gauge26=ALPHA_B-66!ATT, 565,367,149,153
gauge27=ALPHA_B-66!VSI, 564,520,149,153
gauge28=ALPHA_B-66!MACH, 718,520,149,153
gauge29=ALPHA_B-66!TOTALFUEL, 718,679,149,153
gauge30=ALPHA_B-66!TSI, 566,679,149,153
gauge31=ALPHA_B-66!ALT, 255,520,149,153
gauge32=ALPHA_B-66!ADI, 410,520,149,153
gauge33=ALPHA_B-66!RADALT, 101,520,149,153
gauge34=ALPHA_B-66!TRI, 408,367,149,153
gauge35=ALPHA_B-66!EGT1, 605,838,78,78
gauge36=ALPHA_B-66!EGT2, 696,838,78,78
gauge37=ALPHA_B-66!OILPRESS1, 786,838,78,78
gauge38=ALPHA_B-66!OILPRESS2, 877,838,78,78
gauge39=ALPHA_B-66!Compass, 262,57,73,71
gauge40=ALPHA_B-66!RADIO DME, 912,234,94,42
gauge41=ALPHA_B-66!GFI, 254,690,125,127
gauge42=ALPHA_B-66!RMI, 717,367,149,153
gauge43=ALPHA_B-66!FLAPS, 2,690,125,127
gauge44=ALPHA_B-66!CLOCK, 128,690,125,127



[Color]
Day=255,255,255
Night=25,10,5
Luminous=220,150,60

[Default View]
X=0
Y=10
SIZE_X=8191
SIZE_Y=4534



Have fun! John
 
Nice airplane. Nice of you guys to paint an aircraft in which I have actually flown, though you have it in the VAP-62 camo and not the VQ-1 1973 version of the RA-3B.

The fuel tankage is clearly a mistake. The B-66 numbers don't match the Navy numbers exactly, but look pretty close.

Frankly, I would have preferred the weights, seven crew members and three tank configuration of the EA-3B. Those 45,000 lb empty weight EA-3's we had in VQ-1 were a handful for the pilots on carrier landings.
 
"The fuel tankage is clearly a mistake. The B-66 numbers don't match the Navy numbers exactly, but look pretty close."

That's pretty funny considering that I got those figures from the NATOPS manual excerpts posted on the A-3 Skywarrior Association's web page.
 
johndetrick said:
"The fuel tankage is clearly a mistake. The B-66 numbers don't match the Navy numbers exactly, but look pretty close."

That's pretty funny considering that I got those figures from the NATOPS manual excerpts posted on the A-3 Skywarrior Association's web page.
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I came up with similar numbers to johndetrick during beta testing but they didn't make it into the final build.
This was based on one our testers making this comment:

There have been a number of instances where P-3's and A-3's raced each other from Barbers Point, Oahu to the San Francisco Bay area (NAS Moffett Field for the P-3's and NAS Alameda from the Whale's). On a long distance like that the A-3's had to pull their power back to conserve fuel burn, but the P-3's could go the distance with nearly full power. The speed differential was so close that the race could easily be decided by the routing that you got into your home field, or the difference between winds aloft at the different altitudes.
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My conclusion was that if the aircraft was 3200 gallons short we're going to be ditching (or calling for help) out over the Pacific. So I made this suggestion:
Code: 
[Fuel]
fuel_type = 2
number_of_tank_selectors = 1
electric_pump = 1
 
// Long (ft), Lat (ft), Vert (ft), Usable (gallons), Unusable (gallons)
LeftMain = 6, -10, 3, 649, 1
RightMain = 6, 10, 3, 649, 1
// Center1 = 0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 3348, 6   // * all fuselage fuel in single tank at fuselage CG
Center1 = 7.0, 0, 0, 1834, 3
Center2 = -4.0, 0, 0, 1514, 3

Capacities above are based on the manual. Capacity of single fuselage tank was derived by averaging the values.
EA-3B: Wings = 1298, Forward Cell = 1814, AFT Cell = 1760, TOTAL = 4872 Usable (5099 total volume)
EKA-3B: Wings = 1298, Forward Cell = 1214, AFT Cell = 1909, TOTAL = 4421 Usable (4489 total volume)
1814 + 1214 / 2 = 1514
1760 + 1909 / 2 = 1834
1514 + 1834 = 3348

Tank positions are based on eyeballing the image in the manual we have. Forward fuselage tank (Center1) looks to be in line with back half of wing and Aft fuselage tank (Center2) looks to be centered between main gear. If there is no fuel management system it may be better to go with a single fuselage tank (option commented out above).
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:ernae:
 
I was looking at this document - http://www.ibiblio.org/hyperwar/USN/SAC/A-3A_SkywarriorSAC-670701.pdf

649 in each wing tank
1178 forward tank
1909 aft tank
4,385 total gallons

The B-66 model has 4,410 total gallons

John's mod has 4,412 total gallons

Now it has been 36+ years, and I only helped fuel A-3's about a half-dozen times while in VQ-1. And we only lost one aircraft in Sept 73 due to fuel starvation.

I do remember some of quite a heated discussion in the squadron ops office trying to figure out what was the exact unusable fuel in the A-3 before the crew bailed out.

I did not participate in any of the defueling of A-3 aircraft before we brought them into the hanger for major work, though I remember complaints about getting all the fuel out of the aft tank for the four RA-3B aircraft VQ-1 received in late 72/ early 73.

I seem to remember that the wing tanks were almost completely usable fuel - less than a gallon unusable.

Most of the unusable fuel was in the aft tank especially the part that drooped forward of the wheels up against the back of the ECM operator compartment. I did have to crawl into the aft 'hell hole' several times and check the aft tank bladder along with help remove modules for the radar system. At that time I was probably 70-80 pounds lighter than now and quite skinny. One of the guys that I rented a home with in Dededo was an A-3 plane captain and pretty small also, but another roommate was an AQ-2 and hefty. Too hefty to get in that space.

But the differences are minor not worth tweaking.

I do have a concern if anyone wants to run this aircraft in the MSFS RTW Race. We don't allow modifications to flight dynamics and fuel capacities in most cases. We normally require that the aircraft designer either issue a changed flight dynamic, or that an established designer submit a modified .AIR file, aircraft.cfg file and source documentation for testing.

In the case of this aircraft, if AlphaSim said the B-66 aircraft.cfg was more accurate, then we would allow that verision of the aircraft.cfg to be used in the race.

Edit - I believe this is the KA tank configuration because our EA, RA and TA aircraft in VQ-1 used the fuselage back to the end of the wings.
 
If any FSX fans stumble in here, Alphasim has ported over the A-3.

Now available for FSX - the A-3 Skywarrior ! The Skywarrior package has ported over to FSX well, so we decided to make it available. Note, as an FS9-to-FSX portover, there are no FSX special features such as bump mapping or self-shadowing. However it does look good and flies well. Existing owners of the new v.2 package just need to log in to their account area and they can download the FSX version.
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Question for Frank

Frank,

Just picked this up and love it! My question: Will the earlier version repaints work on this? I noted no paint kit when I D/L'ed the new one. Hopefully the new bits are on there own textures. Hope to hear from you soon!

Dave
P3aewguy
 
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