fsafranek
SOH-CM-2024
Have a good safe journey Dano. None of this stuff matters in the least.
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foreigndevil
Charter Member
This is great news! Eagerly looking forward to this beauty!
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tigisfat
Guest
Easy there. I wouldn't speculate to say that because of the amount of angry employees and emotions involved in the last few years of Alphasim. One thing is true, and that's the fact that Alphasim has been undergoing some major changes that may have made them appear to you as casual. Things were not always this way. It's not all bad though. The last two years have seen some of the best MSFS aircraft come from Alphasim.
ColoKent
SOH-CM-2025
My gosh....
....I guess I'm the the only person left on the planet who is held accountable if I am not performing adequately.
You're probably right-- Phil and company might have some brilliant master plan that causes them to preview one project...then delay it...preview another project...then delay that one too...and all the while Phil himself seems to have "outgrown" communicating with his customer base. Here's a newsflash: I don't give a cr$p what AS' reason is for the continued delays on both the BN and the HU-16. I don't care-- it's not my problem-- it's their problem.
Heck...I'm willing to pay big bucks for add-ons (I'm not like some folks on another posting board in particular that "whinge" [that should give the astute a clue as to what board I am talking about] on a regular basis about how much every piece of payware that comes out costs).
If it's a damned business, it's about time AS starts acting like it. PERIOD.
Kent :Banane36:
....I guess I'm the the only person left on the planet who is held accountable if I am not performing adequately.
You're probably right-- Phil and company might have some brilliant master plan that causes them to preview one project...then delay it...preview another project...then delay that one too...and all the while Phil himself seems to have "outgrown" communicating with his customer base. Here's a newsflash: I don't give a cr$p what AS' reason is for the continued delays on both the BN and the HU-16. I don't care-- it's not my problem-- it's their problem.
Heck...I'm willing to pay big bucks for add-ons (I'm not like some folks on another posting board in particular that "whinge" [that should give the astute a clue as to what board I am talking about] on a regular basis about how much every piece of payware that comes out costs).
If it's a damned business, it's about time AS starts acting like it. PERIOD.
Kent :Banane36:
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tigisfat
Guest
I tried to sidestep around saying it bluntly. I've failed!! Here it is bluntly:
Phil IS Alphasim. He was held accountable by the employees that worked for him. How? They left, and not always under the best of circumstances. The rumor mill says that several people were stiffed on pay, some were stiffed on what they though were going to be jobs....so on and so forth.
It's easy for us to stand back and say that. The departure and uncertain employment of a handful of key people means that key projects themselves will become uncertain, especially if you have employees paid on commission. If you wish to continue a project without them, then you must remove their work or pay them.
Phil never did communicate much with his customers. He relied on more personable people like Dan and Frank Safranek. What little is known about him is that he never goes on forums. Rest assured that he won't read what you write about him.
You should care. You guys know me; I'm harsh on developers all the time. Let's be positive about one thing though: We are talking about our friends and members of this community. It's not just production problems, it's problems with people being forced to move without much money around the world...find new jobs...so on and so forth.
Like I said, it's not that simple. It's a/was a group of people with ever-changing dynamics and problems usually relating to one person.
Please understand that I have no affiliation with Alphasim. This is the way I believe things to be.
ColoKent
SOH-CM-2025
Chill out Tig...
...I'm not pi$$ed at you. I'm just irritated that AS won't deliver the goods. Y'know, back in the '04-'06 timeframe, Phil seemed very accomodating...but since AS sh$tcanned their "official" forum, "official comm" has dropped to ZERO.
Dano and a few others have tired to keep AS in good graces with the community, and now he (and most--if not all of the others are) gone. This sucks-- I miss the "old" AS that cranked out state of the art airplanes.
And now the HU-16, one of the models I've always wanted...continues to be delayed...it just pi$$es me off-- I'm used to the real world, where deliveries mean revenue. It's bad enough that AS gets fixated on limited appeal $hit like the "Hawler Siddley Vertol Mk XIII" which flew once-- in 1947....now this cr@p.
Again, nothing personal...just gimme the damned HU-16 and the paintkit!
And yes...I understand perfectly well that money talks and...well, er, um..."the rest" walks. How else does Phil think he's gonna make a living and pay others so they can make a living???
Kent
...I'm not pi$$ed at you. I'm just irritated that AS won't deliver the goods. Y'know, back in the '04-'06 timeframe, Phil seemed very accomodating...but since AS sh$tcanned their "official" forum, "official comm" has dropped to ZERO.
Dano and a few others have tired to keep AS in good graces with the community, and now he (and most--if not all of the others are) gone. This sucks-- I miss the "old" AS that cranked out state of the art airplanes.
And now the HU-16, one of the models I've always wanted...continues to be delayed...it just pi$$es me off-- I'm used to the real world, where deliveries mean revenue. It's bad enough that AS gets fixated on limited appeal $hit like the "Hawler Siddley Vertol Mk XIII" which flew once-- in 1947....now this cr@p.
Again, nothing personal...just gimme the damned HU-16 and the paintkit!
And yes...I understand perfectly well that money talks and...well, er, um..."the rest" walks. How else does Phil think he's gonna make a living and pay others so they can make a living???
Kent
Mickey D
SOH-CM-2024
Well said tigisfat
I couldn't have said it better myself. In fact I didn't say it better myself on many occasions. 
DennyA
SOH-CM-2023
Wow, what a amazing sense of entitlement some people have.
The fact is, the flight sim market is such that there are very few people who can afford to be flight-sim developers full-time. And sometimes real life gets in the way.
Guess what else? Have you ever noticed that real-world corporations sometimes have deadlines slip when creating complex products? Microsoft, Apple, Honda, Art Asylum, GE, IBM, Keebler...
I'm very sorry that Alphasim hasn't delivered you the Hu-16 that they owe you on the schedule you proscribe. What is the world coming to?
The fact is, the flight sim market is such that there are very few people who can afford to be flight-sim developers full-time. And sometimes real life gets in the way.
Guess what else? Have you ever noticed that real-world corporations sometimes have deadlines slip when creating complex products? Microsoft, Apple, Honda, Art Asylum, GE, IBM, Keebler...
I'm very sorry that Alphasim hasn't delivered you the Hu-16 that they owe you on the schedule you proscribe. What is the world coming to?
ColoKent
SOH-CM-2025
Thank...
...god Dan is back!
Kent
P.S. Oh and, uh Denny...thanks for explaining business and schedules...I hate telling you what my civilian occupation is, but I will: I consult for large corporations in areas dealing with new business acquisition, program management and program scheduling, planning and execution.
P.S.S. My current military reserve position also involves overseeing program execution...so...thanks for the primer!
...god Dan is back!
Kent
P.S. Oh and, uh Denny...thanks for explaining business and schedules...I hate telling you what my civilian occupation is, but I will: I consult for large corporations in areas dealing with new business acquisition, program management and program scheduling, planning and execution.
P.S.S. My current military reserve position also involves overseeing program execution...so...thanks for the primer!
Wow, you’re way more important and awesome than us.
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I wonder how many other members here who have read your posts in this thread, and actually have jobs similar, albeit not as awesome (obviously), as yours, and who also are waiting with great anticipation for the release of the HU-16, have decided not to whine like an impertinent child about the delays that have been encountered during its development. Just a thought…
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These aren’t real airplanes we’re dealing with here. The security of the free world is not at stake, and the organizations involved usually consist of less then ten people. And it’s not their day job either. I guess you’ll just have to wait like the rest of the riff-raff!
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The Hawler Siddley Vertol Mk XIII is my favorite of all time. Thank you again AlphaSim for modeling the Hawler Siddley Vertol Mk XIII.
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hobofat
Guest
Sigh, I hope the juvenile tone of this thread isn't the future of this forum.
Thanks for the updates on the HU-16 Dan, I'm looking forward to the final project when it is released in due course and best of luck on your future endeavors away from AS.
Thanks for the updates on the HU-16 Dan, I'm looking forward to the final project when it is released in due course and best of luck on your future endeavors away from AS.
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gajit
Guest
LOL - just goes to show how addictive this is as collectors of fine aircraft simulations. Turns us into kids again.
michael davies
Charter Member 2012
Paul,
Just one point, whilst 3D modelling isn't our day job, it does perform some small function to the running and paying of our lives, with the current global climate I'm pleased I actually have some extra curriculum finances to help shore up losses elsewhere, small as they may be they are gratefully received.
Sad fact is, product delays not only upset customers, they also have an impact in the back rooms too.
I've no idea where the delays are, nor am I truthfully interested, I've done my contractual work and now like the rest sit and wait for the release, as do many others.
In the end there is only one solution, work for yourself, Team SDB have done it, Mark Harper has done it ( nice site coming along too ) and now with overt hints on several forums, Dan has taken the plunge too.
The old adage of " if you want something done right then do it yourself " aptly rings true in this context.
Nothing personal, just your post raises some valid points that I feel many others are at minimum thinking, and I do consider myself like many here as part of the riff raff waiting for release.
Sincerely
Michael
Just one point, whilst 3D modelling isn't our day job, it does perform some small function to the running and paying of our lives, with the current global climate I'm pleased I actually have some extra curriculum finances to help shore up losses elsewhere, small as they may be they are gratefully received.
Sad fact is, product delays not only upset customers, they also have an impact in the back rooms too.
I've no idea where the delays are, nor am I truthfully interested, I've done my contractual work and now like the rest sit and wait for the release, as do many others.
In the end there is only one solution, work for yourself, Team SDB have done it, Mark Harper has done it ( nice site coming along too ) and now with overt hints on several forums, Dan has taken the plunge too.
The old adage of " if you want something done right then do it yourself " aptly rings true in this context.
Nothing personal, just your post raises some valid points that I feel many others are at minimum thinking, and I do consider myself like many here as part of the riff raff waiting for release
.Sincerely
Michael
Wow, you’re way more important and awesome than us.
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I wonder how many other members here who have read your posts in this thread, and actually have jobs similar, albeit not as awesome (obviously), as yours, and who also are waiting with great anticipation for the release of the HU-16, have decided not to whine like an impertinent child about the delays that have been encountered during its development. Just a thought…
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These aren’t real airplanes we’re dealing with here. The security of the free world is not at stake, and the organizations involved usually consist of less then ten people. And it’s not their day job either. I guess you’ll just have to wait like the rest of the riff-raff!