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Another threat of lawsuit!?? lolol...

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Yup, not a good move on their part. :running:

Btw, whatever happened with the guy who claimed ownership of the name Starliner (or whatever it was!)?

Mike
 
It would appear to the casual observer that if two individuals try to build the same thing, the things they build may indeed turn out similar.

I'm also having a hard time figuring out how to calculate "Damages" . Are they saying tnat you should have purchased a license from them to install the G1000? Do they have a licensing agreement with Garmin?

Boycoting Eaglesoft is a red herring. It won't do anything but tick off a reputable firm that (apparently) has a desperate supplier.

Did you talk with Eaglesoft about using your garmin instead? Seems if the supplier in question were playing on a level playing field, they would be better served taking care of their business than yours.

Jim
 
I just remembered the time I wrote a summary of an episode of a TV show on Wikipedia and was accused of plagiarism by a guy who had summarized the same episode on his website...because, surprisingly, our two accounts of the scripted recorded events were quite similar.

And then the Wikipedia moderators sided with him.
 
Boycott time they wanna threaten Bill well they've got a wall of people to deal with
Exactly. . .gee ,maybe a small letter writing campaign to the folks at Eaglesoft would hasten a settlement of this misunderstanding. Poor PR is on the horizon for Eaglesoft if they are affiliated in any way with the mindless folks at Mindstar. Just a thought.:wiggle:
 
I just remembered the time I wrote a summary of an episode of a TV show on Wikipedia and was accused of plagiarism by a guy who had summarized the same episode on his website...because, surprisingly, our two accounts of the scripted recorded events were quite similar.

And then the Wikipedia moderators sided with him.
Yep, when you are out there blogging, or wikkiing or whatever you will always run into some folks who have a greatly inflated idea of their importance in the world, a few may be justified in those assumptions, but most are not, but to admit that would be such a jab to their ego's that it isn't even a option.
 
Now hold on here, don't stop buying ES products because another they have partnered with this company. How is that fair to ES? I don't think any of their products have the Mindstar G1000 in them. ES isn't suing you, it's this bonehead company Mindstar. ES makes very solid products - everyone should own their Cirrus models.
 
Boycoting Eaglesoft is a red herring. It won't do anything but tick off a reputable firm that (apparently) has a desperate supplier.

Did you talk with Eaglesoft about using your garmin instead? Seems if the supplier in question were playing on a level playing field, they would be better served taking care of their business than yours.

Jim
well put
H
 
Now hold on here, don't stop buying ES products because another they have partnered with this company. How is that fair to ES? I don't think any of their products have the Mindstar G1000 in them. ES isn't suing you, it's this bonehead company Mindstar. ES makes very solid products - everyone should own their Cirrus models.
Nope, not advocating any kind of retaliation towards Eaglesoft. . .I have a lot of their aircraft and will continue to purchase from them. . .as you said, it's the boneheaded folks at Mindstar who seem to think they own anything even remotely similar to their product.
 
Hmm, I've just received the same sort of odd email from our friend Stasi over at Mindstar Aviation.:isadizzy:

It appears that recent minor disagreements in discussions for a path forward between Eaglesoft Development Group and Mindstar Aviation may be a contributing factor here but we are unable to offer any more than that at this time.

Whatever the motivation, we are sure that Lionheart and Eaglesoft will do their best to resolve their differences with Mindstar Aviation in a mature and gentlemenly manner.
 
Hmm, I've just received the same sort of odd email from our friend Stasi over at Mindstar Aviation.:isadizzy:

It appears that recent minor disagreements in discussions for a path forward between Eaglesoft Development Group and Mindstar Aviation may be a contributing factor here but we are unable to offer any more than that at this time.

Whatever the motivation, we are sure that Lionheart and Eaglesoft will do their best to resolve their differences with Mindstar Aviation in a mature and gentlemenly manner.
Thank you Sir!
H
 
. . . . . Whatever the motivation, we are sure that Lionheart and Eaglesoft will do their best to resolve their differences with Mindstar Aviation in a mature and gentlemenly manner.
Indeed, whatever their motivation, sometimes these people should take a moment to step back an get a grip. Maybe a more cordial request from Mindstar for additional information from Bill would have produced better results than to simply accuse him of ripping them off. Geeeze.
 
Looking at the issue objectively - anyone attempting to simulate a third party object would end up developing a similar if not identical product that has the same look and feel. This is as good as the multiple J-3's that are out there. If everyone starts to sue everyone else, the only guys laughing their way to the banks are lawyers. The only party that can claim any original rights would be Garmin itself. :isadizzy:
 
While look and feel cannot be a basis for action, use of anothers intellectual property in the form of bitmaps and other artwork can and should be a basis for legal recourse.

I'm reminded that only a few months back a freeware modeler turned commercial developer did inded include a number of our own bitmaps in his project.

When we were made aware of that fact we contacted him and his vendor and issued a cease and desist order which they complied with.

The same thing happened with yet another freeware author who wished to castigate us for issueing him a cease and desist.

I cannot use any copyrighted artwork and neither can anyone else.:USA-flag:
 
While look and feel cannot be a basis for action, use of anothers intellectual property in the form of bitmaps and other artwork can and should be a basis for legal recourse. . . . . .I cannot use any copyrighted artwork and neither can anyone else.
. . .and certainly if that were the case here Mindstar would have a basis for action. . .but they do not. Bill has always shown to be honest and above board when developing his addons and this will prove to be no exception. Mindstar showed poor form at the very least if their first reaction was to immediately shoot off a cease and desist without first talking to him and weighing the facts.
No doubt there are those out there who would think nothing of ripping off an idea here or there and calling it their own and you have to guard against such things. . .but in this case. . .Mindstar needs to step back, take a deep breath and try not to look too foolish on their way out the door.
 
Based on the apparent pattern I can see some guy at Garmin opening his e-mail tomorrow and thinking wth? :icon_lol:
 
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