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Anyone know what kind of plane this is?
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Skyhawk_310R
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Oh boy, a 1940's to 50's era GA airplane.
It looks a lot like a 1940's era Aeronca 7AC Champ.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3658/3465453711_0aaa31215d_z.jpg?zz=1
The design of the landing gear looks spot on but the cowling appears a bit deeper. So, I'm still digging.
Ken
It looks a lot like a 1940's era Aeronca 7AC Champ.
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3658/3465453711_0aaa31215d_z.jpg?zz=1
The design of the landing gear looks spot on but the cowling appears a bit deeper. So, I'm still digging.
Ken
binarkansas
SOH-CM-2022
Looks mighty like an Aeronca K, but with some strange engine. look here http://www.airliners.net/photo/Aeronca-KCA/2115757/&sid=3cedb963f66dde7965eb8e65b78ac453
Skyhawk_310R
Charter Member
On the other hand, this Stinson Flier J4A has a matching lower portion of the cowl, but does not show the cylinders on the sides.
http://www.stinsonflyer.com/prop/j4a-02c.jpg
Ken
http://www.stinsonflyer.com/prop/j4a-02c.jpg
Ken
Here is another pic of the that type of plane.
http://www.airport-data.com/images/aircraft/large/000/320/320663.jpg
http://www.airport-data.com/images/aircraft/large/000/320/320663.jpg
Skyhawk_310R
Charter Member
Really, really close indeed! It seems to just be missing that circular intake hole on the lower front of the cowling.
Ken
Skyhawk_310R
Charter Member
Well, if it is the same plane, the second photo shows it's a Piper Cub. The insignia is on the vertical stabilizer. But, the shape of the cowling appears a bit unusual from others I have seen. Most from that period of time have a square shaped air filter at the bottom front of the cowling that I don't see on this one she posed beside. Her's has a more oval shaped air intake. But, that's the thing, so many modifications are and were made to civilian GA aircraft. Each one essentially ends up unique is some ways from all others.
Ken
greybeardgil
Members +
Hi Bill..This is Definitely a Piper J-4 Coupe
Looks like a Piper J-5 to me.
P.Clawson did a PA-12 and claims it to be a J-5C but it has a fully inclosed cowl like on a PA-18. I want to call his model a PA-12 Cruiser.
J-5's are rare in real life and P.Clawson's model is the only reference I have seen for a J-5.
It would be nice to see someone make a J-5, the one with the cylinders exposed.
P.Clawsons may very well be a J-5 "C" which may be the designation for a PA-12 Super Cruiser, I don't know, but it does have the single pilot seat and wide tw-place rear bench seat like the J-5 I remember seeing with the exposed cylinders. So too does the PA-12 Super cruiser have the same seating arrangement.
A Piper J-5 with the exposed cylinders and the bulged fuselage sides is a very attractive "cute" thing to admire. I don't believe FS modeler ever made one.
Anyway that's what the plane in the picture looks like to me.
edit: Oops! just saw the second picture. Now that looks like a Piper J-4.
J-5's are pretty with exposed cylinders
P.Clawson did a PA-12 and claims it to be a J-5C but it has a fully inclosed cowl like on a PA-18. I want to call his model a PA-12 Cruiser.
J-5's are rare in real life and P.Clawson's model is the only reference I have seen for a J-5.
It would be nice to see someone make a J-5, the one with the cylinders exposed.
P.Clawsons may very well be a J-5 "C" which may be the designation for a PA-12 Super Cruiser, I don't know, but it does have the single pilot seat and wide tw-place rear bench seat like the J-5 I remember seeing with the exposed cylinders. So too does the PA-12 Super cruiser have the same seating arrangement.
A Piper J-5 with the exposed cylinders and the bulged fuselage sides is a very attractive "cute" thing to admire. I don't believe FS modeler ever made one.
Anyway that's what the plane in the picture looks like to me.
edit: Oops! just saw the second picture. Now that looks like a Piper J-4.
J-5's are pretty with exposed cylinders
Going by the N number on the second picture, it's a Piper J4.
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=21599
There's also the page the second picture came from: http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/000320663.html.
http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/NNum_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=21599
There's also the page the second picture came from: http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/photo/000320663.html.
trucker17
Charter Member
I have to agree with greybeardgil......Looks like the J-4 coupe
YoYo
SOH-CM-2023
My two cents (now that everyone has done the hard work): It's a Piper J4. Straight J4 with a Continental A50 engine. (A50 had the upward exhaust. A65 on had bottom mounted exhaust system.)
J4 was an odd bird. Different engineeers, I think. It had a trim tab on elevator rather than moving stabilizer. Also has tailwheel mounted somewhat forward of rudder post. And different wing jury struts than J-3.
Bird at Pima has tailwheel under rudder post but that is not original. Curator at Pima caught me on that when I was admiring bird. he asked me what ws wrong with it. I couldn't guess it. He told me afer that it was a common change on ebuilds to allow use of a standard tailwheel assembly.
Norm
J4 was an odd bird. Different engineeers, I think. It had a trim tab on elevator rather than moving stabilizer. Also has tailwheel mounted somewhat forward of rudder post. And different wing jury struts than J-3.
Bird at Pima has tailwheel under rudder post but that is not original. Curator at Pima caught me on that when I was admiring bird. he asked me what ws wrong with it. I couldn't guess it. He told me afer that it was a common change on ebuilds to allow use of a standard tailwheel assembly.
Norm