The reason I ask is because Dave Garwood has made a lovely Mosquito B.IV: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/showthread.php?74131-de-Havilland-Mosquito-B-IV-released
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Are FSX to CFS2 conversions possible?
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bearcat241
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Milton Shupe has the angle on that...he might have a few tips to share. But like Mission said, we already have a few native oldie goldies in the Mossie line.
Blood_Hawk23
Charter Member
Remember FSX models will be very frame rate heavy. the DDS graphics are not supported by cfs2 either.
You can ask the auther to release a FS2004 version. that would be easier to convert. Or see if they would be willing to make one for us.
You can ask the auther to release a FS2004 version. that would be easier to convert. Or see if they would be willing to make one for us.
misson
Charter Member
It is true , but DDS textures can be converted too!.
Time ago I made a example but i didnt take care about textures sizes so the pics shows the issues.
It is a Dart Kitten 100% FSX native plane but now converted to CFS2 (no animations working).
I really think that is better convert a native FSX model than make one. That convertion can take a week making animations, but make one from begining can take a year (in extreme cases).
But we can use FSX ships or objects easy. (because they have no animations).
Cheers
Mario
KD,
Yes, most things are possible! If you've got the time/patience and pc power. As the boys have said there's little point when there are so many CFS2/FS2004 versions of ac out there, and the FSX ac are so poly heavy.
I did get the CBFS Mossie into FSDS, the main model was 54 Mb and the VC was 47 Mb!!! It may be smaller as a 3ds and then Gmax file, but not much. And it took forever to do anything with.
One which took a long time was Mike Cyul's beautiful Me262B night fighter.....but worth the effort.
Cheers
Shessi
Yes, most things are possible! If you've got the time/patience and pc power. As the boys have said there's little point when there are so many CFS2/FS2004 versions of ac out there, and the FSX ac are so poly heavy.
I did get the CBFS Mossie into FSDS, the main model was 54 Mb and the VC was 47 Mb!!! It may be smaller as a 3ds and then Gmax file, but not much. And it took forever to do anything with.
One which took a long time was Mike Cyul's beautiful Me262B night fighter.....but worth the effort.
Cheers
Shessi
Thanks a lot for the replies chaps - I suspected as much - all too hard.
Regarding the Mossie, I think Bruno Escaravage's rendition is the only really good one in CFS 2. The earlier versions are showing their age with their moving parts disappearing from time to time.
His N.F.Mk II can be used as an F.B.Mk VI but unfortunately we don't have a B.Mk IV of the same calibre.
Thanks again,
Kevin
Regarding the Mossie, I think Bruno Escaravage's rendition is the only really good one in CFS 2. The earlier versions are showing their age with their moving parts disappearing from time to time.
His N.F.Mk II can be used as an F.B.Mk VI but unfortunately we don't have a B.Mk IV of the same calibre.
Thanks again,
Kevin
Sopwith Chameleon
Proud Junior Member
Hi,
Some while ago I converted & splashed some paint on J R Lucariny's BMk IV, as I remember, I got all the animations working, but ran into problems with the Prop-disc which I couldn't solve ..............
............ if anyone is interested in having a go at it, I'd be glad to share
Jim
Some while ago I converted & splashed some paint on J R Lucariny's BMk IV, as I remember, I got all the animations working, but ran into problems with the Prop-disc which I couldn't solve ..............
............ if anyone is interested in having a go at it, I'd be glad to share
Jim
kelticheart
Charter Member
Hey SC! Long time no see, nice to read from you!
What prop disc issues are we talking about here? I am sorry, but I am missing what Mario is seeing. Usually, I had no problems with replacing the blurred prop textures of JR Lucariny's models.
I am talking about his Westland Whirlwind, his P-51B and his FW190A, I don't know about other models because I did download them, converted them and then I did not like the conversion results, so I did not bother replacing their prop discs.
Cheers!
KH
What prop disc issues are we talking about here? I am sorry, but I am missing what Mario is seeing. Usually, I had no problems with replacing the blurred prop textures of JR Lucariny's models.
I am talking about his Westland Whirlwind, his P-51B and his FW190A, I don't know about other models because I did download them, converted them and then I did not like the conversion results, so I did not bother replacing their prop discs.
Cheers!
KH
Sopwith Chameleon
Proud Junior Member
Hi Stefano,
Nice to read from you too !
The prop did problem seems to be in the model ( or maybe I screwed the conversion ) you can either get solid prop textures when stopped and opaque textures when spinning - OR - transparent textures when stopped and when spinning but not both .......
I've been busy this week, but I'll post a link for you and Mario SAP
Cheers
Jim
Nice to read from you too !
The prop did problem seems to be in the model ( or maybe I screwed the conversion ) you can either get solid prop textures when stopped and opaque textures when spinning - OR - transparent textures when stopped and when spinning but not both .......
I've been busy this week, but I'll post a link for you and Mario SAP
Cheers
Jim
kelticheart
Charter Member
By all means, Jim. Please post a link for both your conversion and the original as well, I want to see what kind of prop texture Lucarini included in his Mossie. His P-40F has also the same nasty issues, unfortunately I was never able to solve them so I stashed it away.
In other cases, I only discovered that the blurred prop texture needed to be turned upside down to work properly, as in William Dicken's Beaufighter collection.
It always drove me up a wall when designers changed their prop discs features in their production. Most of the times worsening the texture than improving it. Why doing it? Once one has a prop animation that works well, why changing it?
In all of these years I found the most bizarre things within the same designer productions, the most common being the size of the disc expanding or shrinking. Often times the prop disc in not centered and it spins lopsided, which sometimes it can be corrected via trial-and-error attempts of moving the disc texture around its centre, one pixel at a time. Other times this trick is not enough to fix it and the end visual result is rather poor and unrealistic.
The other most common mistake is a later addition to the model, a classical example is made by external side gun packs in USAAF medium bombers.
This bug was discovered by William Dickens, a.k.a. Bismarck13. He fixed all of his models suffering such bug after he discovered it, while all other designers did not.
When the addition is made, the model *.mdl needs to be recompiled by either SCASM or GMAX. At this point, something happens that places the addition "in front of" the spinning disc. In other words, the prop disc is displayed behind the additional parts, while for the rest of the plane the propeller spins correctly in front of everything else. William Dickens discovered that the prop disc needs to be added last to the model details, least it will be displayed behind any further addition.
When this happens, the visual result is so hideous that I can't stand it, I simply hate it. I even removed from my hangars very nice models suffering this glitch in the worst way.
What I can't understand is that this must be at least the tenth time I write about it, trying to bring attention to this ridicolous problem, but no one seems to care about it.
Cheers!
KH