B-17 Restoration Thread...

I kind of thought thats what you meant right before I posted that... I was like, "A quad???? I didn't see an atv in there... did he mean the golf cart?" lol...

Anyway... I think you would be hard pressed to find one Snuffy.. I think that one might have come out of that bar in Greenly, Greely,........ .... a town in Colorado.............I still think the ash tray was interesting... I have some photos of my own... will have to do the photbucket thing.... I always used imageshack, can we still use that???
 
Okay, so imageshack is no longer how it used to be.... and I can't get photobucket to upload any pics..... I am just in a dill of a pickle here... well, the above pics speak for themselves.... co-pilots seat frame with new hardware, throttle quadrant, equiped with ashtray..... etc, etc.... More to come folks....
 
Ashtry? I didn't realise there was an ashtry on it. Is there one on the copilots side too?

I'll have to look in 9O9 next time and see if it's there too. :kilroy:
 
Gary, I do not think you will find it on any B-17 today... That is the first I had ever seen like that... but, as a matter of fact, dad said they are on the original drawings... and they are suppose to be somewhere on the seats too... and yes, I do believe there was one on the co-pilots seat. Now that I think about it, I wonder if any restorations out there have those on there... Maybe some static examples.... I wonder if Shoo Shoo Shoo Baby has them on there, that is suppose to be one of the most complex restorations..... hhhhmmmm.... now you got the juices flowing, will have to do some research....

-witt
 
Swoose might still have the ashtray. I'm also wondering if it was on Memphis Belle as she's a F model
 
Today I got to seen the Aluminum Overcast again. It was here in 2007. This time I got to take pics. I shot every thing that I could find that had writing on it. Gauges .ext. I just need to find some place to upload them all.
 
Congrats Allen, to be honest, I have not seen A.O. since it's landing accident and with the new 'painted' aluminum.

Something I did manage to forget, or left out on purpose most likely.....

Ask yourself, what would be the worst thing to happen for us for this damned seat we have been working on for the better half of a year? We were preparing to rivet the whole thing together and placing the brackets were not matching up where they should in the drawings... 15 min later of not figuring out where our problem was.... dad said, "Don't tell me the whole seat is too big?!?............................:censored: Indeed friends, we don't know how with all the measuring, remeasuring, and triple measuring, but the damned thing is about 1/2 an inch longer from front to back than it should be...................... Now, to the naked eye no one would ever notice, but we are hoping that when the seat is full forward, and the yoke column is in the full back, they do not hit............ hopeully they designed that with a little more than 1/2" clearance....

-witt
 
I got pics of every thing I could. If these some thing you need to see, I may have it.

I did wonder why it did have 'painted' aluminum. Now I know. By the way I like the sitting in the radio operator's seat on the A.O. I wonder if I could get one for home.

 
Thank you for the photos, Witt! At least a few B-17 restorations do have ashtrays installed - I believe they are typical 30's Ford ashtrays.

The following photos are from the B-17F "Boeing Bee", which illustrate some of the other locations they were mounted...

In this photo of the navigator's station, you can see it on the right side of the photo:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/spookythecat/3410491038/sizes/l/

And here on the radio operator's wall, which is the most common place to find the ashtrays on flying examples:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/spookythecat/3409633775/sizes/l/

By the locations of these and the pilot's ashtrays, they seem to be centered around the officer's positions. The B-29 also had the same ashtrays installed throughout. I seem to recall that smoking was only allowed onboard while the aircraft was in-flight; after take-off, and before landing.
 
Thanks John.... I have never seen those before, or I have never noticed...Thanks for posting those... I seen a photo somewhere of your P-51 up there...maybe it was on WIX, or it was maybe in a magazine... I can't remember... Either way, looked good...

-witt
 
Well today was a bit of a slow day... we got most of the parts prepared for painting and riveting. Couldn't do much after that, as we realized we screwed up a part on the seat again... We are converting the seats we had to be connected with the armor plating we made... and thusly we had to drill out some of the rivet holes and make them big enough for bolts... anyways, we all three must have got our wires crossed cuz, well we messed up... no biggee, we just have to remake a few parts... In the meanwhile... We decided to take it upon ourselves to enjoy the lighter side of restoration...

This is actually a first for me... I have been everywhere on a B-17... but the ball turret...looked insde one, even poked my head in...never sat in one....

Well... all I can say is.... damn... I could not have done it.. twenty thousand some feet up , noting below you, in a space that small...nope....

You must note that the first two are of my brother, last one of me... took w/ my iPhone so I didn't have a flash... and the turret is missing a lot of innards, so it would have been much much more cramped....

-witt





 
You lucky devil Witt. I'd like to try sitting in one someday.

John, I couldn't get to see your photos. Yahoo said had to Sign In or register.
 
Hadn't been to the hangar in two weeks (btw, I never really picked up on the fact that "hangar" when talking about the building is spelled with two 'a' s and not an 'e'....) We are beginning to put it together rivet by rivet... and the nose section is coming along quite well... I would think it will be done by the end of summer...

-witt




 
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