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Big Radials / Noorduyn Norseman (C-64)

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It's really weird that they're pushing back... The Norseman does have a cowl that wraps around the front of the engine, but from the renderings we've seen (which aren't final and can be odd given MSFS's camera distortion), the way it does look isn't like an Norseman shot I can find. I'd never have noticed it if it wasn't pointed out, but now that it has been, I'm surprised they didn't just say they'd compare it and tweak if they felt like it was necessary instead of just going into a defensive stance.

We won't know for sure until we see the final product, of course. But I compare to when Flying Iron showed early shots of the P-38 and people pointed out issues with the intakes, and Flying Iron agreed and tweaked them. That makes their product better, and it the responsiveness makes customers happy.

But there's a happy medium. In the end, it's a sim, and there are compromises with reality. I don't want to see us get to a DCS level of demand for rivet-level accuracy where planes have to cost $70 to make money. It's all in finding the balance...

I'd like it to be accurate, but at the same time, I fly the Twin Navion at times, and that thing was a visual disaster when it shipped and is just now starting to look like the real planes...

I think one reason I'm forgiving is that I was having fun even in these days...

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I think I'll wait for the Otter. I've been around FS for 24 years now. I've seen developers who pick a wanted subject and then find the "one of" that someone made in the 40's and introduce that one, when all the rest of the line didn't look like that version. I have also seen developers not fix things because they do not know how to. From the pictures I am seeing, it seems like cowlings are a weakness with this designer, and perhaps, rather than fighting it, he pays attention to what is being said. I saw on the discord SOH is pointed to and made to sound whiney. Just the opposite. More times than not, the people here are more into the details of the planes, the right and wrongs, and THAT is what should be investigated and corrected if found true, by the developer, especially when money is involved. While I would love to have a new version of the Norseman, I don't want something that is either incorrect or a one of a kind. If what LaGaffe says, and I don't doubt him for a minute, is true about their marketing target and attitude, I wouldn't look at anything they ever do. I'll let this ride out and see if this is corrected when released. I'm also seeing a disturbing trend lately with designers selling aircraft before they are finished and promising three lifetimes of corrections in the future. In today's world, they may not exist a week from now! There goes your money and you now own an unbaked airplane! If this cowl design is not up to snuff when released, I'll bypass the good old Norseman and wait on the Otter (which I would grab anyhow!). I hope they do both a radial and a turboprop version of the Otter! The turboprop version is a truly amazing plane!

Don BP;)
 
I was just thinking about this the other day.

Cowling problems aside, I'm still going to get it!
 
When it releases, please start a new thread. It's better to have a fresh thread I can stick, and easier for vistors to find the info they're looking for.
 
OzWookie responded in their Discord that the cowlings varied significantly over the course of production, and the one they're using is accurate for the plane they're modeling.

So it's not necessarily the wrong cowling, just not the shape that you typically see on most Norsemen.

I do wish they'd tweak that, but it's not an immersion-killer for me.
 
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Can't wait to see what you do with this, Jan Kees!

I reached out to Mikey McBryan on his YouTube page just to see if there are good hi-res pics of both sides of Joe McBryan's Norseman. There's some decent stuff out there if you search for CF-SAN, but figured it couldn't hurt to see if I can find some hi-res source files for potential painters.

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https://www.flickr.com/photos/23870098@N04/10528181985/

...and video, too.

https://youtu.be/YxskrqpZio4?t=154

Interestingly, CF-SAN has not only worn many markings (I like this Saskair livery!), but is also pictured with skis, wheels, and floats.

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https://www.aerialvisuals.ca/AirframeDossier.php?Serial=60704
 
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