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Brazilian aircraft carrier São Paulo (A12)

As I haved work professionaly with copyrights for many years, let's be clear. "Not being able to contact" does not mean that one has green light to modify and/or share models. It simple means you can't touch it if the copyright statement does not allow it. There are plenty of models out there, which I would have loved to include in my project, but where there is no way to get hold of the original copyright owner, so no chance... And in this specific case it, as mentioned above it, wouldn't have been difficult to locate Sylvain.
I have close to a thousand models out there... personally normally I do grant permission and have done so even for use in payware, but copyright is there for a reason.
 
kl791 said:
As I haved work professionaly with copyrights for many years, let's be clear. "Not being able to contact" does not mean that one has green light to modify and/or share models. It simple means you can't touch it if the copyright statement does not allow it. There are plenty of models out there, which I would have loved to include in my project, but where there is no way to get hold of the original copyright owner, so no chance... And in this specific case it, as mentioned above it, wouldn't have been difficult to locate Sylvain.
I have close to a thousand models out there... personally normally I do grant permission and have done so even for use in payware, but copyright is there for a reason.
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Thank you. Bears reposting. Silence is never approval. No matter how hungry folks are for their weekly fix of new stuff.
 
sparouty said:
Hi CIMOGT,
The carrier you're using is the one I did with the RFN team, which is free to use but not to be modified, repacked or distributed. Your read-me is not even mentionning the RFN origin of the model!!
You never contact me and I really do not appreciate the way you hijacked my work!!
Weeks ago I already noticed on SOH that you re-used some 3D objects extract from RFN or SDB models that I did, like flight deck crewmen or trucks, but with the whole carrier model I can not keep silent!

I know that, using some freeware tools, it is easy to get out a 3D mesh from FSX/P3D mdl and then modify it as it is yours: so far there is no way to protect model from such hacking except trusting FS users and their respect!

Do you know why there are so few carrier or freeware aitcraft developpers in FS? Because it takes so long time to reach user expectations that many project stops before being finished.
I took me 3 versions and many years of works to do the Foch model you hacked in days without any consideration for the guys who worked on it: that get me upset!!

Sylvain
(by the way you took the Foch of the year 70s which is not the right version for Sao Paulo)
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1) Just so you know sparouty I really appreciate all you guys at RFN do for naval flight simulation. Especially the carrier-finder gauge.

2) I'm working with somebody (I signed a NDA) and although this somebody & I appreciate CIMOGT's work very much - especially on the Growler - we have to make clear with our upcoming product we don't mind mods, but a) let us look at it first and b) we'll decide if, when, where & how any volunteer mod proposed will be released.
 
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