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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

    Post 16 Update

    Post 17 Warning

Bronco X Released (Payware)

Impression after 2 flights. Did not read no stinkin manual.....
As I look.
Engines already running.
VR pit- realistic looking. Nice weathering, easy to read,sharp......
Sound- Loud turbine. Sounds like a Kingair from the front while parking it.
Throttles forwards, notice red lights so I back way off, get to rotate quickly and away I go. Gear up.
Using Activesky with light rain in the area but feels like I am in a hurricaine. Pretty bad rolling. Did not fool with trims but plane wants to climb climb climb. And ROCK AND ROLL.
Leveled out,throttles way back cruising a 200 indicated. Very squirrely like the T-38 Talon. Ive seen alot of these in real life coming up from the Marine station and always thought they would be stable with those engines out there. Lose one and yeah, I can see it.
Ok, in to land, power back and off goes a warning. Cannot silience the annoyance so gear down and the plane gets real stable like. Hard to judge the throttle power by my Saitek location. No sound changes to judge so head down to stare at unfamiliar gauges. Seem to be your typical high strung yet slow to respond turbines. Almost all the way back on the throttles and the speed shaves off real quick. Feed in some more,guessing 100 mph as my approach speed. Flaps full, cant feel much out of em. Not stallin or haulin so 100 seems good.
100 indicated over the fence pull back to idle for a firm landing. Rev thrust has a satifying sound and feel for a 1000 ft landing.
10 min or so hands on and it appears to be another solid Asoft release.
Cant say its one of those love at first flight, a real joy to fly kinda planes. Like the Talon, its not a handsoff, relaxing plane but requires helicopter like grip on the stick at all times. Maybe its my weather prog? Dunno more flights tonight in various locales.
Fps seems good. Got me something to tinker with for at least a couple days!

BTW- I just found a nice faq pertaining specific to the flight model on the forum as a sticky. Like the Talon,104 ECT I dont mind a finicky aircraft if thats the way it is. Seems alot of thought put into it so a reading I will go.
 
Hi I´m the coder on the Bronco....

No the sounds are not bad. At least not more bad than on most other addons.

The issue is rather that if You ever have heard the real Bronco, our sounds does not fully give the same "hum", but they are far from bad.
It´s no difference to other addon aircraft. If You ever have heard a real Spitfire Merlin engine or the engine of a radial, like the P-47, You will never find an addon that will sound like those in FSX.

Though I´m far from objective ,I really think that You shouldn´t use my words on the engine sounds as the decisive factor for buying or not.


I only told my honest feeling about FSX sounds vs reality here - That is not just pointed at the Bronco !!

Best regards
FinnJ
(Aerosoft developer)
 
Having just watched video of the real bronco - id say you got really close to the sound - well done.
 
JIMJAM said:
Impression after 2 flights. Did not read no stinkin manual.....
As I look.
Engines already running.
VR pit- realistic looking. Nice weathering, easy to read,sharp......
Sound- Loud turbine. Sounds like a Kingair from the front while parking it.
Throttles forwards, notice red lights so I back way off, get to rotate quickly and away I go. Gear up.
Using Activesky with light rain in the area but feels like I am in a hurricaine. Pretty bad rolling. Did not fool with trims but plane wants to climb climb climb. And ROCK AND ROLL.
Leveled out,throttles way back cruising a 200 indicated. Very squirrely like the T-38 Talon. Ive seen alot of these in real life coming up from the Marine station and always thought they would be stable with those engines out there. Lose one and yeah, I can see need for a heavy opposite foot.
Ok, in to land, power back and off goes a warning. Cannot silience the annoyance so gear down and the plane gets real stable like. Hard to judge the throttle power by my Saitek location. No sound changes to judge so head down to stare at unfamiliar gauges. Seem to be your typical high strung yet slow to respond turbines. Almost all the way back on the throttles and the speed shaves off real quick. Feed in some more,guessing 100 mph as my approach speed. Flaps full, cant feel much out of em. Not stallin or haulin so 100 seems good.
100 indicated over the fence pull back to idle for a firm landing. Rev thrust has a satifying sound and feel for a 1000 ft landing.
10 min or so hands on and it appears to be another solid Asoft release.
Cant say its one of those love at first flight, a real joy to fly kinda planes. Like the Talon, its not a handsoff, relaxing plane but requires helicopter like grip on the stick at all times. Maybe its my weather prog? Dunno more flights tonight in various locales.
Fps seems good. Got me something to tinker with for at least a couple days!
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Hi

I found with trim and yes, good weather, it was very tame
 
JIMJAM said:
Impression after 2 flights. Did not read no stinkin manual.....
As I look.
Engines already running.
VR pit- realistic looking. Nice weathering, easy to read,sharp......
Sound- Loud turbine. Sounds like a Kingair from the front while parking it.
Throttles forwards, notice red lights so I back way off, get to rotate quickly and away I go. Gear up.
Using Activesky with light rain in the area but feels like I am in a hurricaine. Pretty bad rolling. Did not fool with trims but plane wants to climb climb climb. And ROCK AND ROLL.
Leveled out,throttles way back cruising a 200 indicated. Very squirrely like the T-38 Talon. Ive seen alot of these in real life coming up from the Marine station and always thought they would be stable with those engines out there. Lose one and yeah, I can see need for a heavy opposite foot.
Ok, in to land, power back and off goes a warning. Cannot silience the annoyance so gear down and the plane gets real stable like. Hard to judge the throttle power by my Saitek location. No sound changes to judge so head down to stare at unfamiliar gauges. Seem to be your typical high strung yet slow to respond turbines. Almost all the way back on the throttles and the speed shaves off real quick. Feed in some more,guessing 100 mph as my approach speed. Flaps full, cant feel much out of em. Not stallin or haulin so 100 seems good.
100 indicated over the fence pull back to idle for a firm landing. Rev thrust has a satifying sound and feel for a 1000 ft landing.
10 min or so hands on and it appears to be another solid Asoft release.
Cant say its one of those love at first flight, a real joy to fly kinda planes. Like the Talon, its not a handsoff, relaxing plane but requires helicopter like grip on the stick at all times. Maybe its my weather prog? Dunno more flights tonight in various locales.
Fps seems good. Got me something to tinker with for at least a couple days!
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Don´t slam Your throttles !!
Ease them forward to appr. 80% and wait for Torque to stabilise before fine tuning.

The climbing is probably because You need to adapt the rather high seating position. The main panel on the Bronco sits lower than Your used to, so the Horizon line needs to be put much higher on Your windscreen than usually. Makes for a splendid view all around.

For proper engine RPM - set the condition levers to TO& LAND (full forward) during take off and landing. During take off it will accelerate faster, cause prop blades are at max RPM. During landing it will help slow down due to higher propeller drag.
In flight set the condition levers within the NORMAL FLIGHT range

The warning horn tells that You are too low for landing (Flaps> 20° or condition levers at TO & LAND with the power levers retarded below 50%)
It can be silenced by switching off the WARN HORN on the overhead panel.

A approach speed of 100 kts is just about right.

Flaps are causing drag and lift, but due to some aerodynamical reasons it react a bit different than You would expect - also the behaviour at slow speeds below 165 kts (read the manual or the FAQ section of the forum).

The flighmodel has ben verified to be very close to the real Bronco and engine readouts to fall within ±5% during all flight phases - pretty good actually.

FinnJ
 
OK......................:salute:

Just finished a good 20 minute "wring it out" flight and I am happy:applause:

Weather prog must have been hyper on my maiden cuz this flight was like butter. And yes, if you go throttle up and release the brakes its a ice skater on take off. Be SMOOOOOOTH.
As always, reboot after a new install just in case. Any wierdness disable anything that mods FSX. Also DONT use your airbrake if you have it on your stick from what I am reading. The fm is tricked by some of that programmer magic and uses it. Also do NOT mod or use any keys pertaining to anything that changes the props.
 
gradyhappyg said:
Nope no regrets at all. Picked a good day to get strep throat and have to be out of work. Love the cockpit.
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Great pics! Is that the new South Island NZ scenery from Orbx?

Wothan, will the next variant have the weapons winglets and gunsight/HUD? Also, is the cargo/troop area accessible? Answer, yes to both. Found it on their forums. Defintely a must have now.

Matt
 
I agreed with the incentive post earlier and went ahead and bought it. Just an FYI for the bean counters, the Euro must be down or something. I payed more than a dollar less than the advertised price on the download(28 and some cents vs 30). Obviously this may not hold true tomorrow, but it worked for me tonight. May be just a internet calculator thing on the AS website, but a penny saved.....is a penny I can spend on other FS stuff.

Looking forward to flying this in a minute, and all the repaints in the future!
 
ok....I am having a problem....I wonder if anyone else has.......When I switch from or to the Bronco, or start a new flight with it my FSX is stuck at 1.1 FPS until after I've opened the manual and clicked the cold start option to shut it completely done and done a reset of the aircraft, and then restart it. Is there some way to have the Bronco set up to be cold at the beginning of a flight or when we switch into it? Is anyone else finding this issue?
 
I did a touch and go and lifted back off. Replayed it and watched it from various views. Stopped playback and went back to realtime flying. I noticed my fps was a little lower and jerky. My outside views that some are reporting had been fine but this time I noticed why it had reduced.
The entire rear was engulfed in a major fireball. Ive seen this issue before on some other planes. Tried loading antoher plane then the Bronco but it was still engulfed in flames. Eventually had to restart the flight. So if anyone get swings in there fps make sure you are not on fire hahahaha.

Another possible oddity. I removed the engine sound they use for ground roll and added my own rolling sound. To hear it I cut the engines in flight so I could do a deadstick. I was surprised to see I could not lower the gear.
 
I can not understand why they sold it yesterday for 25 € and today for 18,71 € - in my opinion it is not very fair against the people that bought it yesterday on initial release ....... disappointing !!
 
Fireball6 said:
I can not understand why they sold it yesterday for 25 € and today for 18,71 € - in my opinion it is not very fair against the people that bought it yesterday on initial release ....... disappointing !!
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Ya....I should have waited a day and saved $10.00
 
I thought myself "mhhh - very good plane - just go and look for a verx nice scenery from that company - they have some very, very nice ...." but after reading that the price for the bronco is lowered only a few hours after they released it - and i am one of those "Early buyers", let me stay away from another purchase - like stated before, i am disappointed by the art of "price-politic".

The Bronco themself is fantastic - like it alot. So many nice things to discover. One of the best virtual cockpits in my opinion. Hope a lot of people buy it - more than ever for the lower price ! It is worth every cent !!

Merry christmas and a happy new year

Dirk
 
Fireball6 said:
I can not understand why they sold it yesterday for 25 € and today for 18,71 € - in my opinion it is not very fair against the people that bought it yesterday on initial release ....... disappointing !!
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Reminds me of when I bought the Iris A-10A when it first came out at full price...big mistake on my part for two reasons:

a) They went ahead and put it on sale for $5 dollars a shortly time later

b) DCS A-10C came out basically the following week (or very short after).

I would have asked for a refund (I think the original price was like $45.00 US, maybe more) but that's not my style.

If I had access to my FSX PC, I'd buy the Bronco right this second, but I won't be back from holidays until the 8th of January, so it will have to wait.

Regards, Diego
 
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