C-27J Spartan

warchild said:
By the way. Do you possibly use FSUIPC?? I use the free unregistered version...
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Yes, I have FSUIPC, registered version. Unfortunately, I haven't had time to really learn how to use it. Still haven't been able to get my controls set up in it.

My OS is Win7 Home Premium, run in AMD environment. If that helps.
 
no worries.. Just did a test after renaming all the fsuipc files. To Mr Dowsons credit, it isnt FSUIPC.. Would have been nice if it was.. Easy and taken care of quickly, but,, oh well.. I run windows 7 ultimate, Intel Core 2 Quad cpu.. I dont think its machine based.. I'll be ripping out my appdata/microsoft/fsx files next. at least there i might get to where i can pinpoint the file thats calling the problem routine and that will help a lot.. And could you do me a favor.. After the engines start, let off the parking brake and hit ctl-F2 and see if your plane goes backwards. it should ( i made sure of that ). When i try it, i get a hydraulic failure warning on the annunciator.
 
I bought this plane last nite and was unable to get it to fire up....it would half ass run on engine one and spool up and down..... engine two would not fire up no matter what i did......I will try modeir`s method to see if it works.
 
Killbilly said:
I don't mind a difficult, realistic start -- in fact, I like when any sort of realistic systems are included. I want to know about the plane's performance in the air. The manual states that the plane will be too responsive and unstable if the realism isn't set to "easy." That's what's keeping me from installing. I will go through the startup checklist, but I won't switch my settings every time I load a plane just to get a decent flight performance.
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Hey kill.. i think youve been around flight sim long enough you dont need training wheels.. You know that a joystick isnt a hand pump.. That said, the pitch and roll rate a a tiny bit more responsive than a 737s. The trim is also a tiny bit more responsive as well ( which is something i want to work on anyway.. I like smooth exact control in my planes ). Basically, its a classic JFTC flight model. It has my name on it ( and you dont know how important that is to me ). Its very stable, yet responsive. you can duplicate the RL Alenia demo flight with no problems.. it DOES demand a bit of experience and confidence behind the yoke, but, theres no way you would ever need to put it on the easy setting unless you just bought your first copy of flight sim and this was your first plane ( which, you didnt and it isnt ). The plane does exactly what you want it to do. Outside of the P-61 we're developing here, its one of the easiest to fly and most comfortable planes i've ever flown or developed. Use smooth actions on the stick throttles and speed brakes and you will find this to be an extremely honest and enjoyable plane to fly.. Now, i DO have to qualify myself here. As you know, experience makes a great bit of difference, even in this hobby. I've got over 2000 hours in the P-61 alone, and ive been creating fsx flight models since its initial release. I lost count of how long ive been in the cockpit, and i've flown everything from single engine old timers to up flying vfr through fog and clouds in an A340-600 ( and not only survived, but landed it on the center line at the right airport ). What i'm saying I guess is that, my perception of whats easy and what isnt, is skewed by all that time in the cockpit, but even taking that into account, i dont think you'll have a problem at all on maximum settings ( which is where i keep mine ).. Pam PS.. If you find that for yourself, anything ive said above isnt true, you let me know. I'll work with you to make it exactly what you want.. Thats how confident i am of it..
 
modelr said:
I just figured it out! On the overhead control panel, after the APU is running, the switches on the bus bar on the fuel control panel must be turned on. As soon as I did that, the engines turned over and started. They would not even attempt to turn until at least one fuel line was opened. for each engine.

Don't know if this is covered in the manual, as I am also one of those who wants to jump in and go, at least for the first flight. I'll read later.

Don
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I'm flying....I'm flying!!! :jump::jump: It does make sense, engines gotta have fuel. So I do all the steps Pam gave us (many thanx, Pam), switch on the fuel...engines start. It's easy now. So I took off from Dillingham and crashed into the sea a short time later (do to watching a movie while inflight).

Thanks Don & Pam :salute:
 
jojohnson9 said:
I'm flying....I'm flying!!! :jump::jump: It does make sense, engines gotta have fuel. So I do all the steps Pam gave us (many thanx, Pam), switch on the fuel...engines start. It's easy now. So I took off from Dillingham and crashed into the sea a short time later (do to watching a movie while inflight).

Thanks Don & Pam :salute:
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ROFLMAO:: You gotta remember that in flight movies are for PASSENGERS ::lol::... How is she handling for you??
oh yes,, Your very welcome.. glad i could help..

Pam
 
warchild said:
ROFLMAO:: You gotta remember that in flight movies are for PASSENGERS ::lol::... How is she handling for you??
oh yes,, Your very welcome.. glad i could help..

Pam
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Good advice, Pam. This plane is really outstanding, handles great. Nice takeoff, smooth flight, lands well...watch approach speeds - landed fast, overshot. Prop reverse action is not very effective, hardly slows aircraft. Does not seem realistic. Other aircraft have dramatic reverse with very good stopping power.

Everybody should get this plane, it's real fun and only ten bucks and change (USD).
 
warchild said:
the pitch and roll rate a a tiny bit more responsive than a 737s. The trim is also a tiny bit more responsive as well ( which is something i want to work on anyway.. I like smooth exact control in my planes ). Basically, its a classic JFTC flight model. It has my name on it ( and you dont know how important that is to me ). Its very stable, yet responsive. you can duplicate the RL Alenia demo flight with no problems.. it DOES demand a bit of experience and confidence behind the yoke, but, theres no way you would ever need to put it on the easy setting unless you just bought your first copy of flight sim and this was your first plane..
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Thanks Warchild, that's exactly what I needed to hear. I do have quite a bit of FS time (I've been flying MSFS since 5.1, before that on my Commodore 64, and I have just a bit of RW stick time), so I get a bit finicky at times. I'm installing now, and I'll give her the run-through. Thanks, again.
 
Any one having a sound problem?

When I select the aircraft in FSX it immediately starts to make a sound(sort of a rushing sound) even before I load FSX-When it loads it goes to cold and dark but i still have sort of a rushing sound

Start APU-I can hear it spooling up no problem,good sound
Start the engines and all I have is the APU and a rushing sound
Turn off the APU-spools down and all I have is that rushing sound-change rpm and still no engine whine

Crazy thing is when I downloaded it yesterday I had engine sounds........have sp1/sp2/Acc

Tried another download and still the same problem.....

Any ideas?

Happy holidays
Rick
 
Pam, I got a good flight in, I'll try to answer what I can.

First, I have about 1 hour Turboprop time, so far. My flight today! I'm not used to using the reverse pitch, yet, and keep forgetting how to do it. ctrl+F2. I gotta setup an easier key/button for that. I forgot you can back these up, so I used pushback. :kilroy:

When I got out to the active and lined up for take-off, I killed the engines. (Need to learn how to operate turboprops!!) I have my mixture and props on rotating dials on my Saitek X52 Throttle. I thought, wrongly, that the mixture control was supposed to be moved to leaner on turboprops before throttle up. Nope. Problem was, it took me over 15 minutes to get the engines started again. Tried turning the engines with internal batteries, nope. Started APU. Nope. Turned fuel feeds on and off. Nope. Reset electrical bus. Nope. Turned APU off, then did all engine starts again on internal. They started! Nothing made sense, but I got her started. My next step/try was going to be a full reset.

Oh, by the way. This aircraft has exactly the type of VC crew/pilot I like. The pilot's feet, legs and thighs are all that show from the pilot's perspective, while the copilot, VERY well done, I might say, is there. These can by turned on and off by the quick notes brought up with the gust lock. Thank you David and crew. I wish more would do it like this. With no one in the cockpit, I think I'm flying by radio control.

As you were telling KillBilly, I flew on max settings. Keep the movements easy, and she flies smooth. The crew calls out the take-off speed/rotate points, etc. once up to about 5000 ft, I leveled out. Trim was smooth and easy to adjust, unlike a lot of models where you have to keep retrimming because you can't find center. I pulled throttles back to 75% and used pitch to set speed. Don't know if that was right, but it worked. Set airspeed at abot 280knots indicated. Then went outside to look her over and take some screenshots.

Then it was time to return to base. Since this was strictly a VFR flight, from and around Eglin AFB in Florida, at dusk, in today's weather using REX, and Shade Shepard's Delight preset, the scenery was beautiful.

After calling for landing permission, I lined up from about 10 miles out, letting down to 1500ft at 5 miles, and, after using spoilers to slow to 200knots, props at high rpm, I lowered gear and flaps dropping thru 180knots. Maintained 170 to over the fence, then backed throttles to idle. Touched down about 150ft beyond numbers, popping spoilers at touchdown. Touchdown was very smooth, at about 140knots. This was with 96%fuel still on board. (Does this have a fuel dump?)

My impressions. If you fly this thing ham fisted, you could probably do the Aresti pattern. Go easy on it, and she flies honestly. I like it. Very well done, Pam.

Some pics.
 
papab said:
Any one having a sound problem?

When I select the aircraft in FSX it immediately starts to make a sound(sort of a rushing sound) even before I load FSX-When it loads it goes to cold and dark but i still have sort of a rushing sound

Start APU-I can hear it spooling up no problem,good sound
Start the engines and all I have is the APU and a rushing sound
Turn off the APU-spools down and all I have is that rushing sound-change rpm and still no engine whine

Crazy thing is when I downloaded it yesterday I had engine sounds........have sp1/sp2/Acc

Tried another download and still the same problem.....

Any ideas?

Happy holidays
Rick
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Rick,
Mine does the same thing. I think it's the APU at first, but since the model is designed/coded for cold and dark, it all shuts off once fully loaded, regardless of default settings in sim. Mine is set for the default, ready to take off, still, (Just haven't gotten around to saving at cold and dark,) and it does exactly as you describe. As soon as it is picked in the choose aircraft menu, the APU sound starts. I do have engine sounds, and they are definitely different, and quieter.
 
The sounds I "think" are part of the authentication subroutines. Dont quote me because i could be very very wrong. However, other companies planes do a similar thing on loading.. Thats what makes me think its copy protection authentication, or something related..
 
Oh My God am I embarassed=-hits head against wall,about 13 times-ouch:banghead:

For some reason in FSX under Options- "SOUND" had been unchecked:isadizzy:

I never selected that -do not know what happen-but it works now!!!

Rick
 
After reading most of this thread I went ahead and bought the C27 in the Iris sale for $10.

I spent some time reading the manual and followed all the other tips above, just completed a two hour flight and all was well including using the AP.

Starting with crew assist works for me and saves a lot of time, gets you flying sooner.

I think even at full price this is a good value product, but for the $10 sale price it's a real Christmas treat.

Thank you Iris.
 
Bruce Thompson said:
I think even at full price this is a good value product, but for the $10 sale price it's a real Christmas treat.

Thank you Iris.
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Yes, indeed. After Warchild's reassurance, I loaded this beauty and put her through the paces. I was able to get her started from cold and dark (though it did take some time) and from the autostart with no problems. She flew pretty much the way the specs in the manual said she should -- I use CH pedals, yoke, and throttle quad; and my flights were smooth as silk on max realism settings. I wonder why the manual wants them switched to easy. The exterior model is just as stunning as the screenshots promise. The VC is excellent and quite functional. The little extras (especially the copilot's sense of humor) are a lot of fun. I liked having to monitor my engines and pay close attention to my approach speed.
I only had two little (very little) complaints: the rudder seems a bit squirrelly for a plane this size which made landing in a 35kt crosswind a bit too exciting, and for some reason the engines don't like to REstart (if I shut them down, it takes an extra bit of coaxing to get them going again -- but maybe that's realistic for this plane). Nothing that will detract from my flightsimming bliss. Anyway, I am going to put a lot of time in this one. It's truly a gift at the current price. Thanks, Iris, for the generosity (I'm going back today to pick up some more); and thanks, Warchild, for the advice and the enjoyable flight model.
 
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