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[DaveB]

Thanks to Marc, here is a solution to the missing Altimeter display. Add the following section to the aircraft.cfg:


[altimeters]
altimeter.0=1
altimeter.1=1
altimeter.2=1
altimeter.3=1

(Radio altimeter still playing dumb though.)

Manfred.. this allows the altimeter to function although the barometric pressure still can't be changed.

Re the radalt.. I've seen the needle operate on this from day one (yesterday)!ggg The scale reads from zero to 800 and the needle stops when the model reaches 800ft AGL. However.. the 'bug' continues moving as altitude increases. I'm probably wrong but this isn't how I'd expect it to work. I'd have thought that something of this age would only work up to 800ft anyway and the control knob on the lower LH side was there to move the bug to whatever decision height was required.. not for the bug to do it's own thing and be a 'live' altitude indicator. Does the legend on the gauge not read FT x100?

As I say.. I could be wrong but I've never come across a radalt that works like this.
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DaveB

 

[jankees]

mmm, strange, it worked fine on my laptop (see my previous screenies), on my main computer I needed to OK a gauge and after that only CTD's.
I click on the thumbnail and whooops, CTD. I removed it, deleted the fsx.cfg, reinstalled it, but the problem remains.

 

[mjahn]

Using shift+ a number not allocated to a function or window, the FSX help screen says there should be a help window (shift+3??) and a start panel (shift+9). I'm only seeing shift+1 (main panel) and shift+4 working. I may be answering my own question (again) by saying that I've had shift+4 open when trying these. Given you can start the engines from the ENG panel (shift+4) I guess the start panel may not be showing as it's already there (in the shft+4 eng panel)?

Dave,
dammit you are right, Shift-3 gives a brief flash and then disappears. Will investigate, I think it may be due to a faulty Lvar. Instead, use the '?' in Monitor > Flight, which gives you the help screen including the power and speed placards,, and strangely enough, once you have done that, Shift-3 also does its thing. Hum!

Shift-9, the mini Start panel presents an inconspicuous single square button at bottom right of the screen. It allows you execute the slow engine start routine without Monitor open. See the tooltip. Here you use E + 1, to select engine 1, then press five seconds. And so on, until all running. Then, importantly, hit E to re-select all engines before doing anything else.

 

[mjahn]

mmm, strange, it worked fine on my laptop (see my previous screenies), on my main computer I needed to OK a gauge and after that only CTD's.
I click on the thumbnail and whooops, CTD. I removed it, deleted the fsx.cfg, reinstalled it, but the problem remains.

Jan, open panel.cfg and comment out the event logger gauge. This is inessential and seems to have worked for Bill, who had the same problem. See this thread, post #18.

In other words, like so:

//gauge01=fsx_event_logger!event_logger, 0,700,120,73

 

[mjahn]

As I say.. I could be wrong but I've never come across a radalt that works like this.

Right again, it certainly shouldn't work like this. It worked okay in the Connies, where I have taken it from, but something evidently got lost in the transfer. Treat as nonfunctional ftb.

 

[Dumonceau]

Maybe time for some good reports here!

I've installed it into P3D v2.5 and it works quite ok! I won't be depressing you with bug reports after having done such a fine job!

Considering that this is only a beta, the future looks promising indeed!

Oh, as a side remark: I normally don't fly things like this. But seeing the name Manfred Jahn did it for me, and I wasn't disappointed one bit! The soundset is brilliant too!

Can I stop complimenting you guys now??

Johan

 

[gray eagle]

Shift + 9

What is Shift + 9 key supposed to do? Right now, for me nothing (Nix)

 

[DaveB]

Answer above Grey Eagle

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DaveB

 

[DaveB]

Dave,
dammit you are right, Shift-3 gives a brief flash and then disappears. Will investigate, I think it may be due to a faulty Lvar. Instead, use the '?' in Monitor > Flight, which gives you the help screen including the power and speed placards,, and strangely enough, once you have done that, Shift-3 also does its thing. Hum!

Shift-9, the mini Start panel presents an inconspicuous single square button at bottom right of the screen. It allows you execute the slow engine start routine without Monitor open. See the tooltip. Here you use E + 1, to select engine 1, then press five seconds. And so on, until all running. Then, importantly, hit E to re-select all engines before doing anything else.

Rgr that Manfred. I don't think I'd ever have noticed the tiny grey square had you not pointed it out. It works exactly as prescribed

Shift+3 is an odd one. It comes and goes fine when using the ? button in the top LH corner and once open, it will open and close fine with Shift+3. However.. if you close it with the ? then try and open it using shift+3.. it flashes briefly then disappears. I'm sure you'll sort it

Johan.. I think we're ALL here because it's Manfred's latest baby. The whole point of this thread is that it's an open beta release and he wants to know what's working and what isn't. Sitting quietly at home admiring what we already have (which we're all doing anyway) is nice but defeats the object somewhat. These aren't complaints.. they're bug reports
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DaveB

 

[gray eagle]

Answer above Grey Eagle

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DaveB

Thanks Dave B, As mentioned in #43, I see now that a little square icon appears on lower right corner of monitor, No #1 starts first. Then, when I want to go
for #2 I have to first press E+2 then click on the little black square and it will light off, same for # 3 and # 4. Now, I see that if I want to shut off the engines,
I cannot do the conventional CTRL + Shift + F1, I have to select each engine with the E + (#) and they will shut off one at a time. I thought they could all be shut
off simultaneously. Bottom line SHift 9 does work for me, I didn't catch the comment in #43 to know this.

 

[falcon409]

Just a note about the altimeter. Adding the posted entries does allow the altimeter to work correctly. The pressure setting knob is non-functional, however if you hit the "B" key the pressure setting will change as needed. I've tested it at various altitudes and geographic locations.

 

[DaveB]

If I had of read each and every comment here, I suppose I would of known and not of asked, however, I didn't and therefore asked.
Thanks Dave B, start icon don't workee. Is is functional or what? For me, Shift + 9 doesn't achieve the desired results.

Yo grey eagle (sorry for the typo earlier). You can use either method. If you pull up shift+4.. on the engine panel you'll see the engines numbered 1 2 3 4. Start routine is 3421 so.. click on the 3 button and left click on the start 'square' (to it's right) for 5 seconds (it doesn't matter if you leave it a bit longer). Release the mouse button and No.3 will fire up. Do the same with 4, 2 and 1 and when they're all running.. hover your mouse over the start square and right click. This will enable all engines to run in sync (failure to do so will mean the last engine started will throttle up when you move your joystick throttle forward).
If you hit shift+9 and don't use the overhead.. look for the tiny grey square at the bottom RH of the screen.. select E+3 then hit the grey button for 5 seconds. Release and No.3 will fire up. Then.. E+4.. hold down the grey square for 5 seconds e t c. Once all engines are running.. hit the E key to synchronise all 4 levers to your joystick. Not sure which method is best but both work. I prefer using the shift+4 overhead

Ed.. yes.. hitting the B key will work in most if not all FS models. If the barometer knob is to remain non-functional.. so be it. It in no way detracts from the overall pleasure of being 'up front'

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DaveB

 

[jankees]

Jan, open panel.cfg and comment out the event logger gauge. This is inessential and seems to have worked for Bill, who had the same problem. See this thread, post #18.

In other words, like so:

//gauge01=fsx_event_logger!event_logger, 0,700,120,73

yep, that worked! Thank you!

 

[Mach3DS]

Manfred,

regarding the texture bump map. would it be possible to add in the number 3 bump as a placeholder even if you don't create it yourself? That way someone could create one if they wanted to? A blank one essentially.

 

[falcon409]

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Ed.. yes.. hitting the B key will work in most if not all FS models. If the barometer knob is to remain non-functional.. so be it. It in no way detracts from the overall pleasure of being 'up front'

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DaveB

Yep, I knew it worked with almost all models been using it for years. I had seen a few statements saying that the pressure setting didn't move after adding the "Altimeter" section to the cfg file. It was just a reminder that the "B" key was an option that did work. I have never used the knob for that setting. . .the "B" key is simply easier.

 

[DaveB]

..I had seen a few statements saying that the pressure setting didn't move after adding the "Altimeter" section to the cfg file. It was just a reminder that the "B" key was an option that did work. I have never used the knob for that setting. . .the "B" key is simply easier.

Ahh.. rgr that Ed I think this panel is turning out to be so full featured.. I kinda expected a more elegant solution but like you.. it's something I rarely use and am more than happy to live without. B it is
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DaveB

 

[gray eagle]

Yo grey eagle (sorry for the typo earlier). You can use either method. If you pull up shift+4.. on the engine panel you'll see the engines numbered 1 2 3 4. Start routine is 3421 so.. click on the 3 button and left click on the start 'square' (to it's right) for 5 seconds (it doesn't matter if you leave it a bit longer). Release the mouse button and No.3 will fire up. Do the same with 4, 2 and 1 and when they're all running.. hover your mouse over the start square and right click. This will enable all engines to run in sync (failure to do so will mean the last engine started will throttle up when you move your joystick throttle forward).
If you hit shift+9 and don't use the overhead.. look for the tiny grey square at the bottom RH of the screen.. select E+3 then hit the grey button for 5 seconds. Release and No.3 will fire up. Then.. E+4.. hold down the grey square for 5 seconds e t c. Once all engines are running.. hit the E key to synchronise all 4 levers to your joystick. Not sure which method is best but both work. I prefer using the shift+4 overhead

Ed.. yes.. hitting the B key will work in most if not all FS models. If the barometer knob is to remain non-functional.. so be it. It in no way detracts from the overall pleasure of being 'up front'

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DaveB

Thanks Dave,

That all works just great! Thanks. Now, How do I shut down all engines at the same time? This bird doesn't respond to the conventional keys for multi engine shutdown.
I have to select the engine and then hit the little square for each engine. I guess I am doing it the hard way. Thanks

Edit: With all four engines running, I select the engine # I want to shut down from the overheard then hit the ctrl/Shift/F1 for each engine. Guess there was not
all four shutdown at the same time option.

 

[DaveB]

Yo matey

The two options I use are either grab the fuel levers and drag them to the closed position (I've tried but I can't select individual levers) or alternatively.. ctrl+shift+F1. Because of the way the mouse grabs the levers.. I find ctrl+shift+F1 the easiest option. To reverse the option.. either grab all levers with the mouse to the open position or ctrl+shift+F4

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DaveB

 

[falcon409]

Ahh.. rgr that Ed I think this panel is turning out to be so full featured.. I kinda expected a more elegant solution but like you.. it's something I rarely use and am more than happy to live without. B it is
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DaveB

Yep, agreed. . .by the time this is fully featured and no longer requires updates or corrections it'll be beyond awesome, lol.

This morning I flew it into NAS Corpus on the Texas coast. I had it setup (I thought) to capture the localizer and do an ILS approach to 13R. As I crossed the localizer the airplane continued on without turning. It was then that I realized I had not set Nav1 to the correct freq. I disengaged the AP, flew the airplane back onto the correct heading (descending all the time), set the correct frequency, engaged the AP/Appr (AP/Alt was still set to 1600'), it immediately climbed to that altitude (about 2500' to get there), reestablished the ILS/Glide Slope and continued the approach without any problems. I only took over once I was over the threshold. I've never had that luck with any other airplane that I can remember. Normally what I find is that it's unable to catch the glideslope any longer and have to hand fly it the remainder of the approach. I was impressed.

 

[gray eagle]

Yo matey

The two options I use are either grab the fuel levers and drag them to the closed position (I've tried but I can't select individual levers) or alternatively.. ctrl+shift+F1. Because of the way the mouse grabs the levers.. I find ctrl+shift+F1 the easiest option. To reverse the option.. either grab all levers with the mouse to the open position or ctrl+shift+F4

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DaveB

Okay, here's the deal, Using CTRL + E, all four engines will start in about 30 15 second intervals. Using that mode of startup, Using CTRL + SHift + F1 will shut all four down no problem.
Now, Using the overhead panel, I can also start each engine, one at a time, at will. When it comes to a four engine shutdown, the CTRL + Shift + F1 is non responsive; I can shut them down
one at a time using the overhead panel and or click on the little black square (Shift + 9) and additionally use the E + (#) for each engine I want to shut down.

So that is where I am at for now. I think that a complete four engine CTRL + SHIFT + F1 option is not an option using the overhead panel (especially if I used the overhead to start them with.

I hope you can get the picture I am trying to paint here.