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Wayland

Wayland

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I've been re-cataloging my add-ons looking for ships that can be used as costal convoy escorts for some submarine hunting scenarios off the US east coast and in the Caribbean during the WWII and early cold war period (1942-1960). I can't find anything smaller than Destroyer Escorts. I'm using the YMS minesweeper as an analogue to the US Patrol Chaser (PC-461 Class) and the S-100 class E-boot as an analogue for the Sub Chaser (SC-497 Class). The US PT boat is a fill in for the Coast Guard 83' Patrol Boat. None work very well, except as floating objects. Is anyone aware of any other US type ASW small stuff available. I've got almost, if not all of the ships from SOH, Simviation and Flightsim. Anyone have any suggestions?

Thanks all,


Steve
 
Thanks John, that's what I was afraid of. I don't want to Interrupt his work flow while he's busy cranking out fleet units. This is just something I was toying around with, learning mission builder. The idea of the little escorts was to get in the way, disrupt the sub's approach and hold them down while calling in the clans for DD/DEs and aircraft. Also used as air-sea rescue, convoy rescue, gunboats and landing control ships. We lend-Leased a bunch of them too. I think every allied navy got a few, including the soviets. Ah well, I'll continue to tinker and see what happens. Thanks for confirming my suspicions.

Steve
 
wayland...

......in the early years of WW2 many convoys were escorted with nothing more than armed trawlers and yatchs. DD's were rare still because of commitments and DE's were a developing concept. If you want trawlers I believe that Sully had some at his site here: http://simviation.com//lair/cfs2sully.htm. The DEs of the post war and 60's is something that you will have to request as I don't ever remember seeing anything around. But remember there were actually several classes of DE's by function (ASW, Picket, etc) and armament also varied. Hard ship class to tie down

Also If IRC didn't the VN_Navy have a SRoberts? That was a WW2 DE.
 
Thanks Dave.

I have all Sully's boats, and handy they are, and I have the Sammy B too. I'm looking at the purpose built stuff that was actually fairly effective at the hold down. The Flower class was used mainly in the deep Atlantic escort role. The Trawlers and fishing boats were in a lot of cases of Admiralty design to a certain standard, the idea being that if war came they would be the first taken into service. The US didn't think ASW was important, so totally neglected that sort of thing.

As for the early cold war, the newer designs like the CG Cape class didn't start showing up till the early '50s. Till about '55 the Navy had to do with mostly recycled WWII destroyers. Fletcher, and Sumner/Gearing classes mostly. When the new DD's came out most went to carrier escort. At least that's what it looked like to me, in a quick overview.

Maybe if there was a Buckley class DE to complement the Butler class Samuel B Roberts.The Buckley was the first production DE Jan. '43. Also the most produced at 103 units. It had 3 3" mounts to the Butlers 2 5" mounts. Watch a Buckley in action in "The Enemy Below".

Steve
 
PC woes

Hi Steve
I should be able to whip up a 461 and 492 class ships quickly enough when I get my PC (not patrol craft) back from surgery.
They are not too complicated.
I can do a bit on the laptop, but DPED is not installed and it is a bit fidgety, and dark keyboards a bit of a pest.
Cheers
Stuart
 
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"Hi Steve
I should be able to whip up a 461 and 492 class ships quickly enough when I get my PC (not patrol craft) back from surgery.
They are not too complicated.
I can do a bit on the laptop, but DPED is not installed and it is a bit fidgety, and dark keyboards a bit of a pest.
Cheers
Stuart"

Thank you sir, you are a gentleman and a scholar. There is absolutely no rush on this, so please don't push yourself to get this out, I can can carry on confusing with the stand-ins, as my MB skills are abysmal and I'm busy going nowhere at lightspeed.

Steve
 
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