Cees Donker, these textures are in your mail box!

[huub vink]

As my LVA textures have gone missing in the database crash, I have done some new ones. I have learned some things since the time I did the original ones.

Cees Donker mentioned they were not longer available, so I did them primarily for him. However when there are more who like to have them I will upload them.

Cheers,
Huub

 

[Ferry_vO]

Please upload Huub!

 

[Cees Donker]

Lovely work Huub! I wanted to fly this masterpiece by Stuart again. That man is so good in what he does, everytime I look at it I'm amazed. This repaint is absulotely stunning.



Cees

BTW: are the roundels/ cocardes on the wings correct?

 

[Ferry_vO]

BTW: are the roundels/ cocardes on the wings correct?

 

[huub vink]

Hi Cees,

yes, they are and they have been applied this way for quite some years!

After 1914 the Dutch national marking was an orange ball. In 1920 the new roundel was introduced in Dutch East Indies to avoid confusion with the Japanese national marking (Over 20 years before the war started there!).

In 1921 the NEI design was made national (so also introduced in the Netherlands) and sizes were standardized. Wing size was 5/6 of wing depth, fuselage 5/6 of fuselage height where it's located. On the wingtips it should be placed equal distant from all three edges. On the fuselage half way between the trailing edge of the (bottom) wing and the rudder's pivot, equal distant from top and bottom of fuselage. On the wings the red part should point forward, on the fuselage the white part downwards. Orange dot was 1/5 of the roundel's diameter size. Rudder was red-white-blue top to bottom, each of equal height.

In 1932 (!) the direction of wing colours was changed: the white colour should now point backward.

The 3 colour rudder was abolished in December 1938 in Europe and in July 1939 in the NEI.

From October 1939 (Europe) and December 1939 (NEI). Equal sided triangles, as large as possible (but not touching each other), pointing down- (fuselage) / backward (wing). On the wing with its point equal distant from tip and fuselage (more outward on planes with bomb racks or floats). On the fuselage half way between the trailing edge of the (bottom) wing and the rudder's pivot, equal distant from top and bottom of fuselage. Rudder was orange. Triangles and rudder had 10 cm wide black borders (pictures of orange triangle over roundel are probably 'work in progress'). Officially this scheme was also used on Dutch planes not with RAF-Europe up to 1946.

Source: Camouflage and Markings - Colours of the Dutch Air Force.

 

[Cees Donker]

Thanks for the explanation Huub! So the S.IV has these roundels and the D.XVI must have the post '32 roundels?

Cees

 

[huub vink]

Thanks for the explanation Huub! So the S.IV has these roundels and the D.XVI must have the post '32 roundels?

Cees

Yes, although I think some S.IVs were still in service well after 1932. When my memory is correct the last S.IVs were still in use in 1940!
So whatever position of the white you choose it is always correct :isadizzy:

Personally I would use the "red-in-front" roundels when you use the "curly" numbers on the S.IV and I would use the "white-in-the back" roundels when you use the "straight" number.

Huub