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Chinese Firm set to buy Hummer
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6297J
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This should please a certain ex Marine 
wombat666
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cheezyflier
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hey, why not? they already hold huge loans that post chunks of america as collateral. if they were to call in their markers, some of you would be living in a communist country.
Hummer is the line of super expensive SUVs that GM sells to very rich people who will never get their vehicles dirty....could care less who owns the right to produce them.
The HUMVEE is a totally different vehicle and not produced by Hummer or any part of GM. The HUMVEE is produced by AM General, which is not part of GM.
AM General is owned by LTV Aerospace and Defense Company. AM General sold GM the right to use the Hummer name on their SUVs and builds the Hummer and Hummer 2 for GM (the Hummer 3 is built on GM truck production lines).
Under federal law, no defense contractor can be owned by a foreign company. Thus the Humvee will never be built by the Chinese, Canadians, French, Umpalumpas or anyone other than Americans in an American owned plant.
OBIO
The HUMVEE is a totally different vehicle and not produced by Hummer or any part of GM. The HUMVEE is produced by AM General, which is not part of GM.
AM General is owned by LTV Aerospace and Defense Company. AM General sold GM the right to use the Hummer name on their SUVs and builds the Hummer and Hummer 2 for GM (the Hummer 3 is built on GM truck production lines).
Under federal law, no defense contractor can be owned by a foreign company. Thus the Humvee will never be built by the Chinese, Canadians, French, Umpalumpas or anyone other than Americans in an American owned plant.
OBIO
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6297J
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Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-dee-do
I have another puzzle for you
Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-da-dee
If you are wise, you'll listen to me
What do you get when you drive a Humvee?
A pain in the neck and an IQ of three
Why don't you try simply driving a Ford?
Or one of those nice new Honda Accords?
I have another puzzle for you
Oompa, Loompa, doom-pa-da-dee
If you are wise, you'll listen to me
What do you get when you drive a Humvee?
A pain in the neck and an IQ of three
Why don't you try simply driving a Ford?
Or one of those nice new Honda Accords?
There are many quite capable off road vehicles that are not gotten dirty by their owners. One of my past persuits on vacation time was to explore back "roads" and trails of the US Desert Southwest. Usually via land crusher or sometimes seeing if I could get a camper van through axle deep mud (it does rain in the desert) without getting stuck.
My understanding is that the real deal HUMVEE is a very capable off road vehicle, if sometimes a bit large for manuvering in the tight locations that these trails contain. The "Hummer" is acording to the "word" a reasonably good vehicle at such things despite it's more frequent employment as an "Urban Assualt Vehicle". An employment shared by the majority of it's style mates. These vehicles keep some of their alure because some people do use them at the edge of the design envelope. Without the folks wanting this association the number of machines would not be produced for the real users to have one!
Good luck to you henry, and your friends! Tom
My understanding is that the real deal HUMVEE is a very capable off road vehicle, if sometimes a bit large for manuvering in the tight locations that these trails contain. The "Hummer" is acording to the "word" a reasonably good vehicle at such things despite it's more frequent employment as an "Urban Assualt Vehicle". An employment shared by the majority of it's style mates. These vehicles keep some of their alure because some people do use them at the edge of the design envelope. Without the folks wanting this association the number of machines would not be produced for the real users to have one!
Good luck to you henry, and your friends! Tom
Cazzie
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Yeah, perhaps the Taliban and Al Queda will be able to get Hummers in lieu of Nissans now.
I can't get political here. But I shall offer you a profound revelation from an eleven year old.
On the way back from a fifth grade field trip last May, my youngest son was asked by his friend Brianna what he was going to be when he grew up. Without hesitation, Arden answered, "I'm going to be Chinese!"
Caz
I can't get political here. But I shall offer you a profound revelation from an eleven year old.
On the way back from a fifth grade field trip last May, my youngest son was asked by his friend Brianna what he was going to be when he grew up. Without hesitation, Arden answered, "I'm going to be Chinese!"
Caz
Henry
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cheezyflier
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Odie
Charter Member
Yesterday afternoon on the news, I heard that the Chinese firm that will buy Hummer will retain GM as a sub-contractor to build them as well as retaining 3,000 employees and management.
Henry, so maybe your friend might not be out on the street and S'port will keep the plant running.
Henry, so maybe your friend might not be out on the street and S'port will keep the plant running.
Henry
Retired SOH Administrator
wombat666
Administrator
Does that mean all of China will now Hummmmm?
I know...I couldn't help it. If it wasn't me someone else would have said it sooner or later.
I kid you not GT, a very large part really does!!!!
Especially where the use of 'night soil' in agriculture is normal ......
Cazzie
SOH-CM-2024
Well, I heard the Chinese thought it was some sort of sexual simulator when they purchased the company!
Actually, the Hummer brand vehicles that GM is selling off are based on the Chevy Silverado and Colorado trucks. The military Humvee is build by AM General which is owned by The Renco Group, Inc.
AM General built the Hummer H1 (no longer in production) and builds the Hummer H2 which was designed by GM (it is based on the Silverado). GM has exclusive rights to the brand, but they do not own AM General.
Interestingly, the Hummer H3 (based on the Colorado) is built by GM.
Although the H2 (and H3) could be used as military vehicles, they're basically the same as the Silverado, Suburban, Tahoe, Sierra, Yukon, Avalanche, and Escalade under the skin. The H3 is the same as the Colorado and Canyon.
The only thing the Chinese would get is the manufacturing technology, if they move that over to China. It'll be interesting to see what they decide to do for engines and drive trains as the existing vehicles are all existing GM products. It would seem to be a logistical nightmare for parts supply if they decided to build them in China. All the tooling and manufacturing are in existing GM plants or suppliers and I think that GM will keep that as they build more Chevys, GMCs and Cadillacs than they do Hummers.
Caz
Actually, the Hummer brand vehicles that GM is selling off are based on the Chevy Silverado and Colorado trucks. The military Humvee is build by AM General which is owned by The Renco Group, Inc.
AM General built the Hummer H1 (no longer in production) and builds the Hummer H2 which was designed by GM (it is based on the Silverado). GM has exclusive rights to the brand, but they do not own AM General.
Interestingly, the Hummer H3 (based on the Colorado) is built by GM.
Although the H2 (and H3) could be used as military vehicles, they're basically the same as the Silverado, Suburban, Tahoe, Sierra, Yukon, Avalanche, and Escalade under the skin. The H3 is the same as the Colorado and Canyon.
The only thing the Chinese would get is the manufacturing technology, if they move that over to China. It'll be interesting to see what they decide to do for engines and drive trains as the existing vehicles are all existing GM products. It would seem to be a logistical nightmare for parts supply if they decided to build them in China. All the tooling and manufacturing are in existing GM plants or suppliers and I think that GM will keep that as they build more Chevys, GMCs and Cadillacs than they do Hummers.
Caz