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Crunch time- Win10, Win11, FS9, and you.

Good advice. (y)

With Win11 and especially One Drive (Win10 as well?) Microsoft is making a big (annoying) push for you to store your stuff on their Cloud.

I my case, I have plenty of private storage kicking around the apartment. I also install main drives that have plenty of room for the files I use.
I don't want One Drive, I don't need One Drive, and I don't trust the Cloud in general. Let me give you an example, I live in the great Mid-West prairie. Sometimes we get some pretty severe weather, sometimes bad enough to shut down my web connection. With no web, there's a lot of stuff I can't do so I'll bust out some kind of FS9 project to work on. :wiggle: If my project files are remote, I may as well open a book. :oops:

If you're in same boat, what's the best way to avoid One Drive? In the good old days, what was installed could easily be un-installed. Just run the un-installer in Task Manager then delete the files. With Win11, especially, as I understand it its practically impossible to dump One Drive. You can try to un-install but it will just come back with your next update. I found some advice that works, so far.

Leave One Drive alone BUT right-click your One Drive icon and TURN IT OFF. :p
That's it. So far, M$ isn't bugging me about setting up a One Drive account or sending me payment options so I can lease some free space.
Will this strategy continue to work? I don't know but for now its doing fine. :indecisiveness:
 
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I just have to come in here...
There actually are quite a few of us that find OneDrive very useful & I cannot understand where this 'hate' :redfire: for OneDrive comes from.

I have 1TB of OneDrive cloud storage & use it to store my sim library. It is also the default location for Office 365 files.
I also use DropBox & GoogleDrive for various other features, & my file browser sees the cloud storages as drives. X:\ is my GoogleDrive, Y:\ is Dropbox & Z:\ OneDrive.
I'm using a laptop with only 3x USB's - 1 for my mouse dongle, 2nd for a Portable drive (my D:\ drive) and a 4 port USB hub in the 3rd USB port. Those 4 USB's are used for my BlueTooth dongle, mouse charging cable, joystick & the 4th port to power my RGB mouse pad.

To each his own, I suppose, & I've also started to use 'Terabox' that also gives 1TB of cloud storage.

As I have said, dunno why the hate for OneDrive or Microsoft bashing! :a1089:
 
Good advice. (y)

With Win11 and especially One Drive (Win10 as well?) Microsoft is making a big (annoying) push for you to store your stuff on their Cloud.:indecisiveness:

Not just Microsoft either! I use Symantec / Norton for AV and a week or so ago I started getting notifications that Norton had backed up files for me in their cloud. I hadn't requested or authorized this service and had no advance notice of it. I had to go to Symantec's site and inquire how to disable it and clear out what it had already put up there.

I have a MS OS and Norton AV bit that doesn't mean I trust them to hold copies of all my files. I's more that I feel stuck with Windows because a switch would mean the loss of so much of my software, and because from what I've seen of it I don't like Apple any more than I like MS. AS for Symantec, I've used Norton for decades and never had a virus or other malware so I trust it for that.

What I don't trust about either company is how they both constantly promote their latest products and with MS updating would mean the loss of a lot of my software. With Symantec there's always the possibility that what stars out as a free service could later become costly. Anyway, I don't need the service and it annoys me greatly that they would presume to just start copying my stuff to their cloud without notice or permission.

I feel compelled to stick with both companies for what they do best but they both really aggravate me with the way they are always pushing their new products.
 
I'm not bashing Windows, they're the ones who aren't giving me the option to not use or install it. :wavey:
 
Before I forget, AFCAD2 installs in Win11 with no hassles. :wiggle:
I think I right-clicked the installer and checked Admin mode prior to install.
I also set Admin for the installed EXE, but this is a habit I've gotten into with Win11.

So far, I haven't found any FS9 (and FS2002) "side programs" that won't work.
Compatibility Mode might be an issue, however. :unsure:
 
One quick observation, if you're planning to "bulk import" scenery and textures be a little careful.

Scenery- I don't recommend trying to install everything in one shot, even if you "hand edit" your CFG files. At most, work in groups of scenery.

Textures- Not a big deal at all except, you'll want to run DXTFixerX at some point. My scenery and aircraft textures were known-good before I moved them over to the new rig. DXTFixer found and fixed 100's of bad alpha channels after the move. If you plan to install ANY scenery or aircraft from Abacus, you definitely want to run the Fixer. I've had DXTFixerX installed for so long that I can't remember where I found it, I think it was from Martin Wright or ScruffyDuck? If you want it but can't find it (ie, a Google search), let me know and I'll zip something together. :wiggle:
 

This is heavily "IMO", but it sounds the same as some guy in NYC suing a parking garage because his car got scratched. :indecisiveness:
Right now, there is no "there" there.
It sounds very logical to force M$ to support Win10 until it falls below 10% of the total (world-wide?) user base, but M$ isn't considered a National Asset.

There are also parallels if we're talking about the big car companies keeping parts in stock until a model falls off the Radar entirely.
The bigger shots across the bow won't happen (IMO) until other businesses start going to court (and that might also involve Win XP). :173go1:
 
Dunno what the big issue is .. It's not like W10 will vanish. The only real support is giving security updates, which should be covered by a good antivirus program.
:a1089:Microsoft!!
 
Dunno what the big issue is .. It's not like W10 will vanish. The only real support is giving security updates, which should be covered by a good antivirus program.
:a1089:Microsoft!!
Exactly! And no more updates that break software or scramble settings!
 
Meanwhile, I've stayed busy getting FS9 and FS02 ready to port over to the new rig. :wiggle:
With FS2002, I spent several years flogging on it (back in the day) and, really, I ditched FS02 for FS9 only after I had an issue with FSUIPC and Arrcab and after I had trashed FS02's scenery.cfg file with some "should work in FS2002" scenery files (that didn't). :dizzy:

Several weeks ago, I decided that I would take a shot at trying to fix the old FS2002 install and things have worked out nicely. :wiggle:
The Arrcab and FSUIPC issue turned out to be a corrupted MODULES folder (German FS files) and the Scenery.cfg file is... its own hassle BUT I really threw the sink at FS2002 over the years and this was before I started manually editing my .cfg files. Since then, I took a really good look at the .cfg file and turned off everything that fit into the "OK, why did I install that in the first place?" category. By "turned off", all I did was edit some of the dodgy entries as follows:

[Area.193]
Title=HMS Hermes
Local=scenery\HMS Hermes
Remote=
Active=FALSE
Required=FALSE
Layer=146

If you look at the number in the top line and compare it to the "Layer=" line, you can see why this is a good first step. :dizzy: Strange things happen when you edit scenery layers from within the sim. :ROFLMAO: As it is now, the "bad" scenery is no longer read and my "Go To" menu is working just fine. All I need to do is edit and re-arrange about 60 "[Area.###]" groups in the .cfg file then delete the old files I don't want.

Which brings up the main point to this post. DON'T BE IN A HURRY TO RE-INSTALL YOUR SIM(s) ON A NEW MACHINE. Take some time, sleep on it, and come up with a good plan and work in stages. Last month, I was ready to write off FS2002 entirely on the new machine and just keep the old (broken) install as a kind of a tribute of what's possible and what isn't. Now, its fixed and the only thing left is some keyboard work to clean up the Scenery.cfg file. One thing I discovered, when nothing is going with FS9, its nice to start FS2002 and go bomb around in the aircraft I edited. More than likely, I'm going to transfer ALL of the aircraft (except most of the AI aircraft that are no longer supported) and most of the scenery I've installed. Why not? I spent a lot of time getting it to work in the first place.

With FS9, I'm still holding off. Aside from some "long term" projects I want to work on I'm mostly finished with playing the game of seeing how many shirts I can stuff in the suitcase before it explodes. Which makes it feel odd. I'm not sure what having two "stand alone- no more updates" versions of FS will feel like. :indecisiveness:
 
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