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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

    Post 16 Update

    Post 17 Warning

DC-3 - Legends of Flight is released!

Have just managed a couple of short flights so far. I agree she flies well but I also agree about the sounds - they seem thin and generic, which robs the package of a lot of atmosphere.

I'm also wondering which systems are modeled and which aren't. I've tried opening and closing cowl flaps but so far can't see an effect on operating temperatures. And oil temperature seems stuck on zero for some reason. Is the gauge nonfunctional, or am I just missing something? The latter is entirely possible.

Will try to work with it a little more today and see what more I can find out.
 
Martyn said:
Hi Pat,

I have installed the DC-3 and its expansion pack and the Buffalo Airways variant is present:

Buffalo.jpg


If you still can't see it, please drop me a support request: http://www.justflight.com/supportrequest.asp?supportProductID=255

Thanks
Martyn
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Thanks Martyn. I will look when I get home from work this afternoon and let you know what happens.

Cheers
Pat
 
Accusim did no good ;), I'm not at all interested in eye candy releases anymore.... We want 'living' machines, working systems and not some badly modelled flight attendants or uninteresting non working guns..
 
Anneke said:
Accusim did no good ;), I'm not at all interested in eye candy releases anymore.... We want 'living' machines, working systems and not some badly modelled flight attendants or uninteresting non working guns..
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Thats is what has happened to me. I keep thinking of the B-17 and all the "character" you hear just taxiing to takeoff. I think this will be a let down.

Andrew
 
WAD3 said:
Thats is what has happened to me. I keep thinking of the B-17 and all the "character" you hear just taxiing to takeoff. I think this will be a let down.

Andrew
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I also find myself thinking about the A2A B-17 and also the Aerosoft Catalina. I understand that not everybody can do (or wants to deal with) in-depth systems modeling - sometimes I don't. But the soundset and animations can provide good atmosphere (the Aerosoft Beaver is atmospheric, thanks mainly to sound). Those are lacking here. The DC-3 much better than default but misses that character and "you are there" feeling - which a DC-3 should have. If a good soundset could be added, that would help.
 
krazycolin said:
the B-17 has working weapons? that's news to me....
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It doesn't. And the bombs don't explode, they just drop and disappear. But the weight and performance of the aircraft change when you drop them. So absent weapons, there's still a lot going on.
 
Alan_A said:
It doesn't. And the bombs don't explode, they just drop and disappear. But the weight and performance of the aircraft change when you drop them. So absent weapons, there's still a lot going on.
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The turrets are active if you turn them on in one of the menus.

I added the weapons pack by Chris Sykes and I get bombs that drop and explode on impact.
The only niggle is that you see the original 6 drop and disappear along with the 6 from
the weapons pack.

Paul ( spoiled by Accusim! )
 
GypsyBaron said:
The turrets are active if you turn them on in one of the menus.

I added the weapons pack by Chris Sykes and I get bombs that drop and explode on impact.
The only niggle is that you see the original 6 drop and disappear along with the 6 from
the weapons pack.

Paul ( spoiled by Accusim! )
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True - the turrets move and the guns traverse and elevate, but they don't fire.

I haven't tried the weapons pack, though I've read about it. I mostly use the B-17 for transportation, weather observation and other peaceful pursuits...

But am equally spoiled by Accusim.
 
In my humble opinion Just Flight did an excellent job on the DC-3/C-47 Legends and expansion . In the past years I have logged quite a few hours in the default DC-3 and MAMM's port-over and all of the excellent paints that has been made for it . The Legends flies very well and I try to fly as close as I can to the manual(within my ability). As far as a "living aircraft " as some described , the Legends engrosses me and give me a feeling of living in the past . The term " eye candy " as been mentioned and I personally love " eye candy " whether it be on an aircraft or scenery . IMO it enhances the feeling of being there . Especially partial to the AC-47 and the C-47 D-Day . I had a chance to see the "Spooky" up and personnal at Danang in 1967 when we were under a rocket attack and a AC-47 was on final and if memory serves me right and just touched down(?17R or 17L?). It did a quick T & G and from what I heard later had apparently saw the Rocket flashes(Russian 144's? --if I have correctly the size) and took care of business , destroying the rockets along with a few VC . To me it sounded like a "buzz saw" . The C-47 D-Day constantly reminds me of my uncle(RIP) who made the jump into Normandy and Bastogne with the 101st Screaming Eagles .

Bottom Line: "To each his own". We all have different tastes and wants and we fortunately are blessed with all of this excellent freeware and payware by some really talented designers .

Love the Just Flight Legends DC-3/C-47 with Expansion ,

Rich
 
Just a follow up on the sound . The AC-47 "Spooky" has the gun sounds(after activating switch on VC panel then using the "I " key on keyboard . I personally like the engine sounds and have used several over the years .

BTW: I'm not anyway affiliated with Just Flight , just a satisfied customer . I also have Aerosoft's Catalina and love it . Quite a challenge and learning curve for me anyway but I really enjoy it and as soon as I devote more time in learning , I'm planning on doing some serious South Pacific and SE Asia long distance flying in it and the JF Legends DC-3/C-47 .

This is too much fun for a man my age to have but having a ball doing it .

Retired and currently a flight sim addict . Now , off to the fridge for a cold one .:guinness:


Rich
 
Ok the SOH Yellowknife man is testing the Buffalo and listening to the sounds and will report back.:salute: Cough cough after smelling Avgas all day in -25. Yep RW Buffalo was a chugging today.
 
Hi Martyn,

Have had time to check the instillation and I have 23 aircraft including the Bufflao paint. Appears everything is ok.

A question though. Do you plan another expansion pack to include a DC-3 with the extra windiow cut in the area over the wing where in a military version the navigator and radio operators sit? A lot of civilian passenger aircraft have these windows there (actually flown in one). Also is the Viewmaster version in the works?

One minor critique though. Perhaps I have been spoilt beta testing and flying the released version of the DC-2 but I have found 2 slight differences. On the DC-2 they modelled the pilot and co-pilot's side windows so you could click on them and they would open. Also the door from the cockpit to the passenger cabin also opened with a click. Other than that, a wonderful aircraft.

Cheers
Pat
 
All in all a nice package with a good variety of representative aircraft but I have a few niggles also.

Missing some cockpit ambient sounds, already mentioned by others, but I'll just add my own.

I know you were doing a representative DC-3 VC and understand why but it's still odd seeing the cowl flap controls in the Cyclone powered non-CF aircraft.

Cyl head temp gauge needs to be fixed. The scale tops out at 150C but the 5 min take-off max of the P-W 1830's is 260C and normal cruise max is 232C. Took me a couple of flights to realize why even with 100% cowl flaps my temps were pegged.

dc-3tempgauge.jpg


Look forward to maybe more addon packs with other variations of the -3 (and functional 2 stage blowers while I'm wishing ).

edit, a closer shot of the gauge:

dc3tempgauge.jpg



Al
 
AussieMan said:
A question though. Do you plan another expansion pack to include a DC-3 with the extra windiow cut in the area over the wing where in a military version the navigator and radio operators sit? A lot of civilian passenger aircraft have these windows there (actually flown in one). Also is the Viewmaster version in the works?
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Currently there are no plans to release further expansion packs as the development team are busy working on the upcoming Comet. However, we always welcome feedback and requests so it can't be ruled out!

On the DC-2 they modelled the pilot and co-pilot's side windows so you could click on them and they would open.
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Our DC-3 has cockpit windows which should open when you click on the latch.

Thanks
Martyn
 
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