cheezyflier
Charter Member
i know this dog is thinking
"I AM THE STRONGEST DOG ALIVE!!!!"
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"I AM THE STRONGEST DOG ALIVE!!!!"
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tigisfat
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cheezyflier
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i don't dispute that the dog was probably dangerous. it was still amusing though.
gecko65
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tigisfat
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Why didn't that cop just LEAVE. As in, put that thing into reverse and get outta dodge?
Bjoern
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He did what he have to do.
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Ken Stallings
Guest
Sorry, I love dogs, but not like those three. That was ridiculous. Clearly those dogs are destructive and have been very poorly trained. So, yes, I actually wish the cops had shot them on the spot dead.
Like was said, if they were that destructive to a moving car, just imagine what they would do to someone on a bicycle!
Ken
Like was said, if they were that destructive to a moving car, just imagine what they would do to someone on a bicycle!
Ken
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Panther_99FS
Retired SOH Administrator
Hi All,
It's a shame people blame the dogs for the ignorance and neglect of their human owners. Oh look there's a dog being a dog lets shot it!
Would be better IMO to put the owners out of their misery not the dogs, the dogs can be trained. Chances are they have a bunch of kids running the streets that are just as feral as the dogs.
Cheers :ernae:
Lindsay
It's a shame people blame the dogs for the ignorance and neglect of their human owners. Oh look there's a dog being a dog lets shot it!
Would be better IMO to put the owners out of their misery not the dogs, the dogs can be trained. Chances are they have a bunch of kids running the streets that are just as feral as the dogs.
Cheers :ernae:
Lindsay
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harleyman
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I tend to agree..go after the owners if there are any...let them pay the price, plus dog training and adoption into a good home.
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Ken Stallings
Guest
Easy to think that way until it's your child mauled by dogs with such poor obedience training standards!
I think my post made it clear the dogs were not properly trained and clearly that implies the fault of the owners. In terms of your statement about shooting the owners, I will choose to consider that hyperbole and ask that perhaps you consider it wasn't the most appropriate thing to post even as such.
I do not agree that all animal behavior is the fault of humans. Humans are not in control of all such things. When a pack of dogs get together, they can often morph into something else personality wise. And when they do, they often decide to stay that way. Dogs are self-aware animals and can display personality traits unique to themselves as a breed and individual dogs.
Cheers,
Ken
You don't need to be a child to be mauled to death by a dog but again it's not the fault of the animal which has been genetically modified to suit the needs of humans. I'm not aware of any dog mauling that there wasn't a certain level of human negligence involved, correct me if I'm wrong and I certainly wouldn't like to see it happen to anyone let alone a child.
Why is it we as a species have some weird conception that we can take a wild animal and redesign genetically and physiologically by behavioral modification training to such extents that it can no longer be itself. We honestly don't have that right and we have to stand up and take the blame when incidents do occur.
Last month it was a Killer whale, this weeks dogs, next week someones Grandmothers budgie is going to go postal somewhere.
Cheers :ernae:
Lindsay
Cheers
Lindsay
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Ken Stallings
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Killer whales are wild animals. Dogs are domesticated. Considerable difference there.
However, dog experts will tell you that given they are a pack animal, dogs also derive behavior models from other dogs they are around. What I am saying is that dogs get their behavior inputs from people in the same way they do other dogs. It is entirely a matter of whether the human owner asserts himself in the dog's eye as the alpha male or female of the pack. Dogs will also challenge for that alpha position. My mother had a spirited miniature spitz I was playing with one day and the little dog bit me on the nose. It was a challenge. I flipped the dog over on its back and put my hand on its neck, same as an alpha male will to a pack member who tries to test who's the boss. The little dog got wide eyes and calmed down soon as she realized she didn't have the strength to overcome my grip. From that moment onward, we had a great relationship. You just got to understand dog psychology and establish yourself as the alpha of their pack.
Once the dog accepts that reality, then the dog learns from the training of the human. However, when a dog gets among other dogs, it can sometimes quickly revert back to learning behavior from the dog perceived as the alpha male, which in this video was the one tearing away the front bumper.
I'm not going to deny that human neglect and also outright mistreatment contribute to dog misbehavior. No doubt whatsoever. It's particularly egregious in examples such as training pit bulls to fight. But, that doesn't account for all of it. I've been around enough dogs to realize long ago they are individuals as much as are humans. They have personalities unique to them and I've learned to appreciate and love those traits in each dog I have owned. It's part of what makes them special.
But those three dogs showed dangerous and destructive behavior, far too aggressive to allow to continue.
Cheers,
Ken
However, dog experts will tell you that given they are a pack animal, dogs also derive behavior models from other dogs they are around. What I am saying is that dogs get their behavior inputs from people in the same way they do other dogs. It is entirely a matter of whether the human owner asserts himself in the dog's eye as the alpha male or female of the pack. Dogs will also challenge for that alpha position. My mother had a spirited miniature spitz I was playing with one day and the little dog bit me on the nose. It was a challenge. I flipped the dog over on its back and put my hand on its neck, same as an alpha male will to a pack member who tries to test who's the boss. The little dog got wide eyes and calmed down soon as she realized she didn't have the strength to overcome my grip. From that moment onward, we had a great relationship. You just got to understand dog psychology and establish yourself as the alpha of their pack.
Once the dog accepts that reality, then the dog learns from the training of the human. However, when a dog gets among other dogs, it can sometimes quickly revert back to learning behavior from the dog perceived as the alpha male, which in this video was the one tearing away the front bumper.
I'm not going to deny that human neglect and also outright mistreatment contribute to dog misbehavior. No doubt whatsoever. It's particularly egregious in examples such as training pit bulls to fight. But, that doesn't account for all of it. I've been around enough dogs to realize long ago they are individuals as much as are humans. They have personalities unique to them and I've learned to appreciate and love those traits in each dog I have owned. It's part of what makes them special.
But those three dogs showed dangerous and destructive behavior, far too aggressive to allow to continue.
Cheers,
Ken
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tigisfat
Guest
Ken's right.
Not all animal behavior can be controlled. Anyone who's been outside the wire in Iraq knows that there are packs of feral dogs around. Left to themselves, they do disturbing things, such as cannabalism or even taking down unable humans sometimes. The wierd part is, you can take a young puppy from these packs and adopt it and it may make a fine dog. Anyone who's been to Guam knows of the beloved 'boonie dogs' that have made many great pets.
On a side note, the same is true even for humans. Also in Iraq, many boys born to poor mothers are literally cast out on the street at ages as young as FOUR. There are packs of boys roaming the streets in many third world countries that display pack behaviors not unlike packs of feral dogs.
Not all animal behavior can be controlled. Anyone who's been outside the wire in Iraq knows that there are packs of feral dogs around. Left to themselves, they do disturbing things, such as cannabalism or even taking down unable humans sometimes. The wierd part is, you can take a young puppy from these packs and adopt it and it may make a fine dog. Anyone who's been to Guam knows of the beloved 'boonie dogs' that have made many great pets.
On a side note, the same is true even for humans. Also in Iraq, many boys born to poor mothers are literally cast out on the street at ages as young as FOUR. There are packs of boys roaming the streets in many third world countries that display pack behaviors not unlike packs of feral dogs.