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Jagdflieger
Jr. Admin
RCAF 440 Squadron Scenery
Transo,
The CFS 2 RCAF 440 Squadron used to have a site dedicated to the Aleutians and several ferry bases accross Canada.
I don't know if their site is still up as I no longer have a link for them. I did a quick Google, and the site didn't come up.
Transo,
The CFS 2 RCAF 440 Squadron used to have a site dedicated to the Aleutians and several ferry bases accross Canada.
I don't know if their site is still up as I no longer have a link for them. I did a quick Google, and the site didn't come up.
Trasno,
Yes, their site is gone, but I've still got the files . They are from 1992-94 so compared with the extremely high quality scenery and airbases we've become accustomed to in the last few years, they really show their age. Anyway, better than nothing, and still workable. If your interested, PM me with an e-mail address.
Looks like 5 files - 3.45 MB, runways and mesh. I'm not sure of possible conflicts with Rhumbaflappy's world mesh.
* If anyone else would like to give them a try, same thing, PM me, don't post your e-mail address in the forums.
Boatz
Yes, their site is gone, but I've still got the files . They are from 1992-94 so compared with the extremely high quality scenery and airbases we've become accustomed to in the last few years, they really show their age. Anyway, better than nothing, and still workable. If your interested, PM me with an e-mail address.
Looks like 5 files - 3.45 MB, runways and mesh. I'm not sure of possible conflicts with Rhumbaflappy's world mesh.
* If anyone else would like to give them a try, same thing, PM me, don't post your e-mail address in the forums.
Boatz
Hi Trasno,
There's also a couple of sets of missions (9 in total) by Yoshi covering the Dutch Harbour attacks and the the occupation of Kiska.
http://flug.hp.infoseek.co.jp/engmis1.htm
Kevin
There's also a couple of sets of missions (9 in total) by Yoshi covering the Dutch Harbour attacks and the the occupation of Kiska.
http://flug.hp.infoseek.co.jp/engmis1.htm
Kevin
Jagdflieger
Jr. Admin
Operation AL
For those wanting to make their own Aleutian Islands missions, an abridged order of battle for the attack force is:
Carrier Divison 4 (Rear Admiral Kakuta)
Ryujo
12 A6M2 fighters
18 B5N1 and 2 Kates
Junyo
18 A6M2 fighters
15 D3A1 Vals
Cruiser Div 4
Maya
Takao
Destroyer Div 7
Akebono
Ushio
Sazanami
Teiyo Maru (Oiler)
Main Body:
2 Oilers
3 Cargo ships
This does not include the invasion forces for Attu and Kiska. Those were pretty large formations composed of transports and escort ships.
You can get the Junyo from Mas at:
http://translate.google.com/transla...ocities.jp/mtyjr101/original.html&sl=ja&tl=en
And the Ryujo from Usio here:
http://www.geocities.jp/usio_no_ibuki/
For those wanting to make their own Aleutian Islands missions, an abridged order of battle for the attack force is:
Carrier Divison 4 (Rear Admiral Kakuta)
Ryujo
12 A6M2 fighters
18 B5N1 and 2 Kates
Junyo
18 A6M2 fighters
15 D3A1 Vals
Cruiser Div 4
Maya
Takao
Destroyer Div 7
Akebono
Ushio
Sazanami
Teiyo Maru (Oiler)
Main Body:
2 Oilers
3 Cargo ships
This does not include the invasion forces for Attu and Kiska. Those were pretty large formations composed of transports and escort ships.
You can get the Junyo from Mas at:
http://translate.google.com/transla...ocities.jp/mtyjr101/original.html&sl=ja&tl=en
And the Ryujo from Usio here:
http://www.geocities.jp/usio_no_ibuki/
CrisGer
Charter Member
the best source for the Aleutians Campaign is a great paperback history of the war in great detail, called the Thousand Mile War by Brian Garfield. I am getting a new copy as i wore out my old one so i can look up details when it gets here. But as i recall there was a sizable air force of US planes up there but many more were sent. The conditions were terrible and more far more planes were lost to weather and crashes and lost planes than combat. It was a fascianting theatre of the war and not well enough known or recgonized. Many examples of heorism on both sides. Including a very interesting naval action that i hope to make a campaign for.
Just tried it and it works. Try again. Or maybe just can't be accessed from where you are. I have the info but thought it was easier to give the link as the info is over 10 megs.
miamieagle
Charter Member
Have you tried this Alaskan sceneries from Simviation http://www.simviation.com/cfs2scenery6.htm !
CrisGer
Charter Member
06/03/42
Eleventh AF
June 3
Japanese carrierbased bmrs and ftrs bomb and strafe Ft Mears and Dutch Harbor in several waves inflicting little damage and killing 52 US personnel. P-40's from Cold Bay trying to intercept them arrive 10 min after the last attack wave departs. Other P-40's at Umnak are notified too late due to communication failure. 9 P-40's and 6 B-26's fly patrol but cannot find the fleet--180 mi S of Dutch Harbor--but 2 of the P-40's engage 4 carrier-based aircraft, shoot down one and damage another.
June 4
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]06/04/42 [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Eleventh AF[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A carrier-borne force strikes again as 11 bmrs, 10 ftrs, and 8 torpedo bmrs attack Dutch Harbor in several waves. 2 P-40's intercept 4 bmrs just before noon over Umnak Pass and shoot down 3. During the afternoon P-40's intercept 9 ftrs. A dogfight claims one enemy aircraft and one P-40, the Eleventh's first combat casualty. AA fire claims another Japanese bmr. During the afternoon 2 B-17's and 5 B-26's attack the carrier force, and 3 more B-26's strike the cruiser Takao. No hits are scored. 1 B-24 and 1 B-25 fail to return.[/FONT]
this was the offical US Airforce report from their history. There appears to be some disagreement from other sources, other sources say:
After the first raid, During the search, the four Type-95 two-seat recon planes launched from the cruisers Takao and Maya, encountered U.S. fighters searching for the departing Japanese squadron and shot two of them down, while damaging the other two, which managed to return to their ships, only to crash-land in the water, but the crews of both were rescued. So this report credits two downed planes.
after the second raid, the Japanese forces were returning to their ships, when....
On the way back, the Japanese planes encountered an air patrol of P-40 fighters over Otter Point and an aerial combat ensued in which one fighter and two level bombers were lost, but four out of the six U.S. fighters were lost as well.
As for the Raids themselves, the details were:
June 3, 1942
At dawn, which at 2:58 AM given the geographic latitude and longitude, Kakuta ordered his carriers to launch their strike which was made up of 12 fighters, 10 high-level bombers, and 12 dive bombers that took off from the two small carriers in the freezing weather to strike at Dutch Harbor. The planes arrived over Dutch Harbor at 4:07 AM, and attacked the town's radio station and oil storage tanks causing some damage.
June 4, 1942
On the second day, the Japanese carriers sailed to less than 100 miles south of Dutch Harbor to launch a second attack. At 4:00 PM on June 4 a second airstrike of nine fighters, 11 dive bombers, and six level bombers took off and less than an hour later attacked the U.S. facilities at Dutch Harbor again. More targets were damaged including some grounded aircraft, army barracks, oil storage tanks, aircraft hangers, and a few merchant ships in the port. Again no Japanese aircraft were lost at Dutch Harbor, but two dive bombers and one fighter, damaged by anti-aircraft fire, failed to return to their carriers.
A Official US Army brochure on the Aleutians and WWII says:
Because U.S. intelligence had broken the Japanese naval code, Admiral Nimitz had learned by 21 May of Yamamoto's plans, including the Aleutian diversion, the strength of both Yamamoto's and Hosogaya's fleets, and that Hosogaya would open the fight on 1 June or shortly thereafter. Nimitz decided to confront both enemy fleets, retaining his three aircraft carriers for the Midway battle while sending a third of his surface fleet (Task Force 8) under Rear Adm. Robert A. Theobald to defend Alaska. Theobald was ordered to hold Dutch Harbor, a small naval facility in the eastern Aleutians, at all costs and to prevent the Japanese from gaining a foothold in Alaska.
Theobald's task force of 5 cruisers, 14 destroyers, and 6 submarines quietly left Pearl Harbor on 25 May to take a position in the Alaskan Sea 400 miles off Kodiak Island, there to wait for the arrival of Hosogaya's fleet. In the meantime Theobald established his headquarters on Kodiak and met with Maj. Gen. (later Lt. Gen.) Simon B. Buckner, Jr., the commander of the Army's Alaska Defense Command.
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Command authority in the North Pacific Area was divided and cumbersome. Upon reaching Alaska, Theobald became commander of all Allied naval and air forces, authority over the ground forces, which remained under Buckner, with whom he was to work in a spirit of "mutual cooperation." While Theobald reported directly to Admiral Nimitz as his agent in the North Pacific Area, Buckner answered to the commander of the San Francisco-based Western Defense Command, Lt. Gen. John L. DeWitt, who was responsible for the defense of Alaska and western Canada. Any differences between Nimitz and DeWitt in the North Pacific Area would be referred to the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) in Washington for resolution.
As of 1 June 1942, American military strength in Alaska stood at 45,000 men, with about 13,000 at Cold Bay (Fort Randall) on the tip of the Alaskan Peninsula and at two Aleutian bases: the naval facility at Dutch Harbor on Unalaska Island, 200 miles west of Cold Bay, and a recently built Army air base (Fort Glenn) 70 miles west of the naval station on Umnak Island. Army strength, less air force personnel, at those three bases totaled no more than 2,300, composed mainly of infantry, field and antiaircraft artillery troops, and a large construction engineer contingent, which had been rushed to the construction of bases.
On Theobald's arrival at Kodiak, he assumed control of the U.S. Army Air Corps' Eleventh Air Force, commanded by Brig. Gen. (later Maj. Gen.) William C. Butler. This force consisted of 10 heavy and 34 medium bombers and 95 fighters, divided between its main base, Elmendorf Airfield, in Anchorage, and at airfields at Cold Bay and on Umnak. Theobald charged Butler to locate the Japanese fleet reported heading toward Dutch Harbor and attack it with his bombers, concentrating on sinking Hosogaya's 2 aircraft carriers. Once the enemy planes were removed, Task Force 8 would engage the enemy fleet and destroy it.
On the afternoon of 2 June a naval patrol plane spotted the approaching enemy fleet, reporting its location as 800 miles southwest of Dutch Harbor. Theobald placed his entire command on full alert. Shortly thereafter bad weather set in, and no further sightings of the fleet were made that day.
Early the next morning, despite dense fog and rough seas, Hosogaya launched some of his aircraft to attack Dutch Harbor. Only half reached their objective. The rest either became lost in the fog and darkness and crashed into the sea or returned to their carriers. In all, seventeen planes found the naval base, the first arriving at 0545. As the Japanese pilots looked for targets to engage, they came under intense antiaircraft fire and soon found themselves confronted by U.S.
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Buildings burning after the first enemy attack on Dutch Harbor, 3 June 1942. (DA photograph)
fighter planes sent from Fort Glenn on Umnak Island. Startled by the American response, they quickly released their bombs, made a cursory strafing run, and left to return to their carriers. As a result of their haste they did little damage to the base. But Hosogaya's fleet remained unlocated, and the U.S. planes based at Cold Harbor had received no word of the attack because of a communications failure.
The next day the Japanese returned to Dutch Harbor. This time the enemy pilots were better organized and better prepared. When the attack finally ended that afternoon, the base's oil storage tanks were ablaze, part of the hospital was demolished, and a beached barracks ship was damaged. Although American pilots had finally located the Japanese carriers, attempts to destroy them proved fruitless. As bad weather again set in, all contact with the enemy fleet was lost. In all, the Japanese raid claimed 43 U.S. lives, of which 33 were soldiers. Another 64 Americans were wounded. Eleven U.S. planes were downed, while the Japanese lost ten aircraft.
http://www.history.army.mil/brochures/aleut/aleut.htm
http://www.history.army.mil/brochures/aleut/almap1-t.jpg
Eleventh AF
June 3
Japanese carrierbased bmrs and ftrs bomb and strafe Ft Mears and Dutch Harbor in several waves inflicting little damage and killing 52 US personnel. P-40's from Cold Bay trying to intercept them arrive 10 min after the last attack wave departs. Other P-40's at Umnak are notified too late due to communication failure. 9 P-40's and 6 B-26's fly patrol but cannot find the fleet--180 mi S of Dutch Harbor--but 2 of the P-40's engage 4 carrier-based aircraft, shoot down one and damage another.
June 4
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]06/04/42 [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Eleventh AF[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]A carrier-borne force strikes again as 11 bmrs, 10 ftrs, and 8 torpedo bmrs attack Dutch Harbor in several waves. 2 P-40's intercept 4 bmrs just before noon over Umnak Pass and shoot down 3. During the afternoon P-40's intercept 9 ftrs. A dogfight claims one enemy aircraft and one P-40, the Eleventh's first combat casualty. AA fire claims another Japanese bmr. During the afternoon 2 B-17's and 5 B-26's attack the carrier force, and 3 more B-26's strike the cruiser Takao. No hits are scored. 1 B-24 and 1 B-25 fail to return.[/FONT]
this was the offical US Airforce report from their history. There appears to be some disagreement from other sources, other sources say:
After the first raid, During the search, the four Type-95 two-seat recon planes launched from the cruisers Takao and Maya, encountered U.S. fighters searching for the departing Japanese squadron and shot two of them down, while damaging the other two, which managed to return to their ships, only to crash-land in the water, but the crews of both were rescued. So this report credits two downed planes.
after the second raid, the Japanese forces were returning to their ships, when....
On the way back, the Japanese planes encountered an air patrol of P-40 fighters over Otter Point and an aerial combat ensued in which one fighter and two level bombers were lost, but four out of the six U.S. fighters were lost as well.
As for the Raids themselves, the details were:
June 3, 1942
At dawn, which at 2:58 AM given the geographic latitude and longitude, Kakuta ordered his carriers to launch their strike which was made up of 12 fighters, 10 high-level bombers, and 12 dive bombers that took off from the two small carriers in the freezing weather to strike at Dutch Harbor. The planes arrived over Dutch Harbor at 4:07 AM, and attacked the town's radio station and oil storage tanks causing some damage.
June 4, 1942
On the second day, the Japanese carriers sailed to less than 100 miles south of Dutch Harbor to launch a second attack. At 4:00 PM on June 4 a second airstrike of nine fighters, 11 dive bombers, and six level bombers took off and less than an hour later attacked the U.S. facilities at Dutch Harbor again. More targets were damaged including some grounded aircraft, army barracks, oil storage tanks, aircraft hangers, and a few merchant ships in the port. Again no Japanese aircraft were lost at Dutch Harbor, but two dive bombers and one fighter, damaged by anti-aircraft fire, failed to return to their carriers.
A Official US Army brochure on the Aleutians and WWII says:
Because U.S. intelligence had broken the Japanese naval code, Admiral Nimitz had learned by 21 May of Yamamoto's plans, including the Aleutian diversion, the strength of both Yamamoto's and Hosogaya's fleets, and that Hosogaya would open the fight on 1 June or shortly thereafter. Nimitz decided to confront both enemy fleets, retaining his three aircraft carriers for the Midway battle while sending a third of his surface fleet (Task Force 8) under Rear Adm. Robert A. Theobald to defend Alaska. Theobald was ordered to hold Dutch Harbor, a small naval facility in the eastern Aleutians, at all costs and to prevent the Japanese from gaining a foothold in Alaska.
Theobald's task force of 5 cruisers, 14 destroyers, and 6 submarines quietly left Pearl Harbor on 25 May to take a position in the Alaskan Sea 400 miles off Kodiak Island, there to wait for the arrival of Hosogaya's fleet. In the meantime Theobald established his headquarters on Kodiak and met with Maj. Gen. (later Lt. Gen.) Simon B. Buckner, Jr., the commander of the Army's Alaska Defense Command.
5
Command authority in the North Pacific Area was divided and cumbersome. Upon reaching Alaska, Theobald became commander of all Allied naval and air forces, authority over the ground forces, which remained under Buckner, with whom he was to work in a spirit of "mutual cooperation." While Theobald reported directly to Admiral Nimitz as his agent in the North Pacific Area, Buckner answered to the commander of the San Francisco-based Western Defense Command, Lt. Gen. John L. DeWitt, who was responsible for the defense of Alaska and western Canada. Any differences between Nimitz and DeWitt in the North Pacific Area would be referred to the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS) in Washington for resolution.
As of 1 June 1942, American military strength in Alaska stood at 45,000 men, with about 13,000 at Cold Bay (Fort Randall) on the tip of the Alaskan Peninsula and at two Aleutian bases: the naval facility at Dutch Harbor on Unalaska Island, 200 miles west of Cold Bay, and a recently built Army air base (Fort Glenn) 70 miles west of the naval station on Umnak Island. Army strength, less air force personnel, at those three bases totaled no more than 2,300, composed mainly of infantry, field and antiaircraft artillery troops, and a large construction engineer contingent, which had been rushed to the construction of bases.
On Theobald's arrival at Kodiak, he assumed control of the U.S. Army Air Corps' Eleventh Air Force, commanded by Brig. Gen. (later Maj. Gen.) William C. Butler. This force consisted of 10 heavy and 34 medium bombers and 95 fighters, divided between its main base, Elmendorf Airfield, in Anchorage, and at airfields at Cold Bay and on Umnak. Theobald charged Butler to locate the Japanese fleet reported heading toward Dutch Harbor and attack it with his bombers, concentrating on sinking Hosogaya's 2 aircraft carriers. Once the enemy planes were removed, Task Force 8 would engage the enemy fleet and destroy it.
On the afternoon of 2 June a naval patrol plane spotted the approaching enemy fleet, reporting its location as 800 miles southwest of Dutch Harbor. Theobald placed his entire command on full alert. Shortly thereafter bad weather set in, and no further sightings of the fleet were made that day.
Early the next morning, despite dense fog and rough seas, Hosogaya launched some of his aircraft to attack Dutch Harbor. Only half reached their objective. The rest either became lost in the fog and darkness and crashed into the sea or returned to their carriers. In all, seventeen planes found the naval base, the first arriving at 0545. As the Japanese pilots looked for targets to engage, they came under intense antiaircraft fire and soon found themselves confronted by U.S.
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fighter planes sent from Fort Glenn on Umnak Island. Startled by the American response, they quickly released their bombs, made a cursory strafing run, and left to return to their carriers. As a result of their haste they did little damage to the base. But Hosogaya's fleet remained unlocated, and the U.S. planes based at Cold Harbor had received no word of the attack because of a communications failure.
The next day the Japanese returned to Dutch Harbor. This time the enemy pilots were better organized and better prepared. When the attack finally ended that afternoon, the base's oil storage tanks were ablaze, part of the hospital was demolished, and a beached barracks ship was damaged. Although American pilots had finally located the Japanese carriers, attempts to destroy them proved fruitless. As bad weather again set in, all contact with the enemy fleet was lost. In all, the Japanese raid claimed 43 U.S. lives, of which 33 were soldiers. Another 64 Americans were wounded. Eleven U.S. planes were downed, while the Japanese lost ten aircraft.
http://www.history.army.mil/brochures/aleut/aleut.htm
After the initial battle of Dutch Harbour the RCAF was also stationed in Alaska to help protect the area.
Interesting reading
http://www.rcaf.com/archives/archives_general/aleutians/index.htm
Interesting reading
http://www.rcaf.com/archives/archives_general/aleutians/index.htm
CrisGer
Charter Member
the fog of war and the curtain of history 
often a challenge to reseachers..... and that was a remote area and Midway was happening at the same time...lots of challenges. I suspect that the 1000 mile War will be one of the best sources as the author researched very carefuly and was able to see unclassified doccuments.
often a challenge to reseachers..... and that was a remote area and Midway was happening at the same time...lots of challenges. I suspect that the 1000 mile War will be one of the best sources as the author researched very carefuly and was able to see unclassified doccuments.
Somewhere in the North Pacific....June 3rd, 1942
Good morning,
Now that I've essentially cleared the Battle of Britain off my desk for the time being, I can continue working on several other projects that have been collecting dust.
A dual-sided Aleutians campaign (Dutch Harbor and the Invasion of the Aleutians) is probably my first priority at the moment, followed by the Mediterranean while some beta testing for BoB and loose ends are tied up there.
I also collaborated with Kdriver to completely revamp the GSL scenery at Dutch harbor.
Good morning,
Now that I've essentially cleared the Battle of Britain off my desk for the time being, I can continue working on several other projects that have been collecting dust.
A dual-sided Aleutians campaign (Dutch Harbor and the Invasion of the Aleutians) is probably my first priority at the moment, followed by the Mediterranean while some beta testing for BoB and loose ends are tied up there.
I also collaborated with Kdriver to completely revamp the GSL scenery at Dutch harbor.