ERS Bell 222A Released

[therealjambo]

Forgot to mention when it goes silent as if powering down just ignore that as it is still running. Or at least mine was.

 

[falcon409]

Forgot to mention when it goes silent as if powering down just ignore that as it is still running. Or at least mine was.

Thanks, I've followed the sequence exactly as outlined here and also via the manual (can't believe I actually read the manual). As you state when the engine sounds like it's winding down. . .well in my case it does. When it goes silent, it's because nothing is running. I appreciate the need for realism, but at the end of the day, I want to be able to fly and unless something changes by the end of the day today as far as a remedy for the inability to start this helicopter. . .free or not it will be gone. I have several other Helicopters that I fly regularly so I won't be out anything.

 

[FSX68]

Ok,

With the help of my son, we managed to get this thing started. Found some of the fuel gauges and other thingy bobs and wiffle valves to start it up.

Still would of been nice if some visual aids were included in the manual. Maybe I can do what they should of done. I think I will make uninstaller for this
as well = make installer/uninstaller.

 

[falcon409]

Ok,

With the help of my son, we managed to get this thing started. Found some of the fuel gauges and other thingy bobs and wiffle valves to start it up.

Still would of been nice if some visual aids were included in the manual. Maybe I can do what they should of done. I think I will make uninstaller for this
as well = make installer/uninstaller.

Ok. . . .and what did you do differently to get it started. . .I also found all the necessary gauges, I have from the start. . .but watching them doesn't start the engine. . .it only confirms what I already know, which is that it won't start with the procedures outlined in the manual. If I've loaded the 2D, there's fuel in the tanks, fuel switches on, battery on, throttle set to 5%, start switch for #1 active. . .based on what the manual tells me, it should start and it does not.

 

[PRB]

Here's what I found about starting the engines. I opened the collective panel and set the values on each engine to "1", as the book said. Then hit the starter button. Then tried to advance the throttles using my CH Products throttle lever. That doesn't work. Helicopters are strange. Started over. I hit the starter button, waited a couple seconds, then started clicking the green up arrow on the collective panel for the engine being started. I just slowly clicked and clicked until it was up to "50". Engine started. Repeat with other engine.

Then I tried to take off, using my throttle levers on the CH unit. Engines seemed to die, but came back after I brought the levers back. Then I went back to that collective panel and ran the two values up to "100". Now I could take off and fly around.

For about 30 seconds! First my radios went dead, then the engines... I did have the batteries and generators on.

 

[strikehawk]

Well, I managed to get it started but when I tried to get it into the air I had two problems...

1 Aircraft began to slide backward until I had pushed the stick 75% forward, almost impossible to maintain any form of hover with out the hover gauge activated

2 As the aircraft began to translate from hover to forward flight aircraft began to first pitch nose up and then yaw violently to the right. This happened three times before I quit the bird. After the first time I check my controllers calibration which was good. I did adjust the null zones for the stick and was hoping for an A799 but the next two flights had the same result.

Anyone else having this problem? or is it just me? Would like some feed back on this gripe if there is anyone else that had the same problem but found a fix.

 

[Hughes-MDflyer4]

Well, I managed to get it started but when I tried to get it into the air I had two problems...

1 Aircraft began to slide backward until I had pushed the stick 75% forward, almost impossible to maintain any form of hover with out the hover gauge activated

2 As the aircraft began to translate from hover to forward flight aircraft began to first pitch nose up and then yaw violently to the right. This happened three times before I quit the bird. After the first time I check my controllers calibration which was good. I did adjust the null zones for the stick and was hoping for an A799 but the next two flights had the same result.

Anyone else having this problem? or is it just me? Would like some feed back on this gripe if there is anyone else that had the same problem but found a fix.

As stated in the documentation, having your hydraulics on is very important! Sounds like you have not turned them on.

 

[therealjambo]

@Hughes-MDflyer4 Thanks you for this gift, could you advise me as to why I have a total loss of power a few minutes into a flight. I followed the instructions in the manual.

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[Flyboy208]

Ed, I guess I spoke too soon, because I only flew it for a few minutes yesterday, but today I had a complete loss of power after roughly 5 minutes of flight, and have followed the startup procedure to the letter. So who knows? Hopefully there will be a fix for this . Mike :salute:

 

[FSX68]

Well, I managed to get it started but when I tried to get it into the air I had two problems...

1 Aircraft began to slide backward until I had pushed the stick 75% forward, almost impossible to maintain any form of hover with out the hover gauge activated

2 As the aircraft began to translate from hover to forward flight aircraft began to first pitch nose up and then yaw violently to the right. This happened three times before I quit the bird. After the first time I check my controllers calibration which was good. I did adjust the null zones for the stick and was hoping for an A799 but the next two flights had the same result.

Anyone else having this problem? or is it just me? Would like some feed back on this gripe if there is anyone else that had the same problem but found a fix.

Hey strike,

I had same issued. I was thinking WTF? over.... That don't sit too well in my wheelhouse.

And YES I had the hydraulics ON.

 

[FSX68]

Ok. . . .and what did you do differently to get it started. . .I also found all the necessary gauges, I have from the start. . .but watching them doesn't start the engine. . .it only confirms what I already know, which is that it won't start with the procedures outlined in the manual. If I've loaded the 2D, there's fuel in the tanks, fuel switches on, battery on, throttle set to 5%, start switch for #1 active. . .based on what the manual tells me, it should start and it does not.

Falcon here is verbage THEY used and pictures of what/where I went to start this thing up.

2.) Open overhead panel (Shift+4) and turn on fuel valves

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3.) Open collective control (Shift+7) and increase throttle to 5% I did come back to this screen (below) and managed to click the center up arrow and raise values to 100 on both.

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4.) Open co-pilot panel (Shift+2) and enage engine starters (one at a time)

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5.) Once either engine is started, push starter button again to disengage. Open overhead panel and turn on the generator and invertor for the started engine. Repeat process for the second engine


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6.) Once both engines are running, throttles can now be increased to 100% (See pic #2) above. Be sure to activate both hydraulic switches before takeoff


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Unless I missed something, I got it started. I guess I am the only one to "step up" and do this dog and pony show.

 

[euroastar350]

Please be certain to load the default Air Trike first, then switch over to the B222. I'm hoping everyone has done this?

 

[therealjambo]

Please be certain to load the default Air Trike first, then switch over to the B222. I'm hoping everyone has done this?

Yep done that, starts ok but wont stay running, total power failure after 2-3 minutes. I keep trying but still the same result.

 

[Lionheart]

You know, it sounds like alot of people are probably using cold and dark startup points from 'other' planes with this sophisticated Helo. This will will need things ON that you may have shut off in other birds.

 

[strikehawk]

Well, I have a problem if I have to load one bird up and then the one I want to fly. I rarely fly offline so since there is no way to change a bird once I'm in a server I guess this will be one that I'll keep so I can see others. Maybe I'll try later on, having said that it is a nice looking 222. Thanks for releasing out to us anyway.:salute:

 

[falcon409]

Please be certain to load the default Air Trike first, then switch over to the B222. I'm hoping everyone has done this?

Yep, tried it with the trike running and with it cold & dark. . .same results. . .spool up. . . . .spool down. . .no go. I appreciate the labor and time and effort, but it's a frustration I don't need in my life. It's gone.

 

[TuFun]

How I start the Bell 222A...

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Did this little video on how I start the 222A, but forgot to enable the hand, so watch the video closely, it's in HD for larger viewing. Shift+4 brings up the panel that's shown above and the numbers are the sequence I used, but not necessarily have to be in that order except for the #1. Make sure there lit up green!

In the video I have shift+4 panel and shift+7 throttle panels displayed. On the throttle panel you will notice 3 green arrows. Set the first green arrow to #1, followed by the start button (press keyboard #2). You should hear the igniters clicking. Once the clicking has stopped set the throttle to 50 by holding down on the green arrow. You should now hear the engine spoolup to 50%. Do the same with sequence with #2 engine (press keyboard #3 for start). At 50% go to the shift+4 panel and flip four white switches on (gen + inverters). Once both are at 50%, raise to 100% by using the center green arrow... either click or hold down until 100%. You are now ready to fly. Flew for 30 minutes with no issues.

 

[Flyboy208]

Great help Ted, now just to memorize that procedure. Cheers! Mike :salute:

 

[Hughes-MDflyer4]

I was just able to replicate the problem with the engines shutting down mid-flight. Not sure what is causing this, but it seemed to happen when changing views. George will have to look into this one...I have no clue why it is happening.

Thanks for making that video, TuFun! Sure saved me some time there.

 

[TuFun]

Great help Ted, now just to memorize that procedure. Cheers! Mike :salute:

Mike... once your go thru it a few times just clicking a few switches, press a few buttons, your in the air!