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ETO QC Shipping
- Thread starter gosd
- Start date
FireStorm II
SOH-CM-2025
It's emailed to you gosd, it's with the ETO 1.4 downloads:
global_layer and qclocations XMLS WITH QC_Shipping Locations (Optional)
global_layer and qclocations XMLS WITH QC_Shipping Locations (Optional)
ndicki
Charter Member 2016
In common with a number of fellow CFS3-doers, I am getting rather sick of hearing that every single thing is connected to ETO. This for example is not. The QC shipping generator is something I did some time ago, and has no input from ETO whatsoever.
I think this proves my point:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/page.php?lloc=downloads&loc=downloads&page=info&FileID=8909
This sort of thing is all the more annoying because a number of us - the W40 team in particular - were actually excluded from the ETO group immediately after the initial release. That is why you do not find any recent work of mine or of those I work with in it.
I think this proves my point:
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/page.php?lloc=downloads&loc=downloads&page=info&FileID=8909
This sort of thing is all the more annoying because a number of us - the W40 team in particular - were actually excluded from the ETO group immediately after the initial release. That is why you do not find any recent work of mine or of those I work with in it.
HouseHobbit
Charter Member
In Country:Netherlands there is a motorcycle with it's lights on stuck under a truck!
Rats!!!
I shouldn't have parked my Harley there
I have the QC shipping disabled on my ETO set ups.
(Just like having the spawns disabled for missions also)
QC shipping badly interferes with missions..
You have targets popping up and appearing..That aren't part of the mission plan..
Kind of Sucks..
In one of my missions sets here at SOH I believe the ETO Team build a program for ETO..
I included in the mission package..
(program to disable this function(QC Shipping) or enable (QC Shipping)..
gosd
Charter Member
This QC shipping generator is an interesting comcept, I downloaded it when it first came out an I am still using it.
Thanks for your help Nigel .
ndicki
Charter Member 2016
It is not included in ETO 1.2, which is the last I bothered to install. If you find it has been included in subsequent versions, it should not have been. As I said, I do not work with ETO.
There are three versions, one near St Mary's, one near Predannack, and one in the Zuider Zee. I uploaded only one, I think.
ndicki
Charter Member 2016
rbp71854
PTO Solomons ,PTO Rising Sun, ETO Expansion
Hiya Nigel
We need to chat offline. My understanding is that you were asked and gave permission to include the qc shipping in an ETO Expansion update.
The selective memory of events will not serve you well with me.
Cheers
Bob
We need to chat offline. My understanding is that you were asked and gave permission to include the qc shipping in an ETO Expansion update.
The selective memory of events will not serve you well with me.
Cheers
Bob
ndicki
Charter Member 2016
That sounds like a threat. I do not react well to threats.
I admit I had to check if it had been included in ETO, and it appears not to have been included in 1.2, which as I pointed out above, is the last I bothered to install.
If you added it to a later update having first thrown myself and the rest of the West 1940 team off the project without even telling us we were no longer welcome - which is what happened when you changed forums without informing any of us - and then included further things of mine in the mix, then as far as I understand it, my permissions covered only those things of mine you asked to use and did use, during the time I was involved.
Any further permissions which may be hanging around waiting for the moment - if indeed there are any, which I doubt - I hereby revoke. You may of course continue to use such work of mine as was included in the initial release only, before the West 40 team was excluded.
I do not think it is worth getting in a fight about it, and I will not be contacting you in person for precisely that reason.
But I do not like to see any of my work referred to as "the ETO" anything.
If you're not happy about that, you have only yourself to blame.
grizzly50
Charter Member
Guys, I beseech you, please pull in your horns before this escalates any further.
Nigel, I had asked you about two years ago for permission to use you QC Shipping idea in ETO 1.30, whish is no longer avqailable, but was carried over to ETO 1.40.
You not only responded possitively, you sent me additional info. I had aso staterd that you would get credit for it, which you did.
I ask that you check your old emails, if you still have them. There were at least a half-dozen each way.
Here is the CFS3 ETO EXPANSION CONTRIBUTOR CREDITS 1.40.rtf to prove it. The one for 1.30 was the same.
I don't use anything from anyone without permission or some other similar acknowledgement.
" CFS3 ETO EXPANSION CONTRIBUTOR CREDITS TO DATE
The following individuals have either directly contributed to the CFS3 ETO 1.30 Expansion or have kindly given permission to use their creations.
Airfield Construction Corp ACC Airfields Ports
Pat Pattle
Frosty
Flashgordon
BeauBrummie
Mathias Random Spawn Disabler/Enabler
Aircraft models
Martin Wright MultiInstall
O-1Driver Effects
Weather
Specialty Weapons and Guns
fxtextures
Missions
Winding Man Variable weather file concept
Fox Effects
West '40 Team West '40 Era
Alain Breton
Foute-Man
Gerfaut
joe_daddy
Led Zeppelin
moi1000
ndicki
Pachy
Viso
Greycap_raf Aircraft lighting
Squiffy Stock hanger and airfield repaints
Capt. Winters Aircraft repaints and standalones,
ETO NEK, ship updates, weapons,
Pylons. QC shipping, Testing. FXtextures, Characters
Ndicki Textures, QC Shipping concept.
Dancat Original aircraft.
SBDbolt Original Aircraft Virtual Cockpit models.
Mike Wholaver Original aircraft
Winjeel Original aircraft
Klass_0_44 Original aircraft
Luca Festari Original aircraft
Jaycee Original extra weapons and pylons.
Prang Missions.
House Hobbit Missions
Mustang Testing
Middle Testing, research
DOS Ghost (writer911) Tester
tailwind Testing
DOS MAXIMUS Testing
Flyer01 Testing
Firestorm Testing
Phenozo Testing
Grizzly50 Testing (ETO 1.0, 1.20, and 1.30, 1.31, and 1.40); Project Coordinator (ad hoc – ETO 1.30, 1.31, and 1.40); Installer (ad hoc – ETO 1.30, 1.31, and 1.40),
JohnoUK original aircraft Hi Res scenery.
Ronnbengt textures
Wildbat Textures
Tom Stovall Effects on some aircraft
gecko
Bear AvH
GregoryP AvH
Gramps Original aircraft
Spitfrnd Flight Models
Alain95 Textures
Aeroplan heaven original aircraft
Crossrarm Station 121
AERA Research
Talon ship repaints and standalones
Mongoose
Bravo4 Aircraft textures
Sea Condor (Greg Law) Ships, buildings and vehicles
Original Aircraft
Nachtpiloten Original Aircraft
RCAF Gunner (Rick), original NEK files that the ETO are
expanded from.
Robby88 (Rob) Terrain Mesh
Discreet
rbp71854 Project Coordinator, Installer, Era swapper, Batch files, missions, Global Layer (ETO 1.0 and 1.20); Advisor (ETO 1.40)"
I even made your name and credit red on this copy so it would show up here.
This document was included in the install packs for ETO 1.30/1.31 and ETO 1.40 and its Hotfix package.
It also resides in the CFS3 ETO Expansion READMEs folder found in the ETO Expansion main game of any install from ETO 1.30 and on.
Nigel, again, you had given me express permission and even gave me some extra assistance. Check your old emails.
Kasey (Grizzly50)
Nigel, I had asked you about two years ago for permission to use you QC Shipping idea in ETO 1.30, whish is no longer avqailable, but was carried over to ETO 1.40.
You not only responded possitively, you sent me additional info. I had aso staterd that you would get credit for it, which you did.
I ask that you check your old emails, if you still have them. There were at least a half-dozen each way.
Here is the CFS3 ETO EXPANSION CONTRIBUTOR CREDITS 1.40.rtf to prove it. The one for 1.30 was the same.
I don't use anything from anyone without permission or some other similar acknowledgement.
" CFS3 ETO EXPANSION CONTRIBUTOR CREDITS TO DATE
The following individuals have either directly contributed to the CFS3 ETO 1.30 Expansion or have kindly given permission to use their creations.
Airfield Construction Corp ACC Airfields Ports
Pat Pattle
Frosty
Flashgordon
BeauBrummie
Mathias Random Spawn Disabler/Enabler
Aircraft models
Martin Wright MultiInstall
O-1Driver Effects
Weather
Specialty Weapons and Guns
fxtextures
Missions
Winding Man Variable weather file concept
Fox Effects
West '40 Team West '40 Era
Alain Breton
Foute-Man
Gerfaut
joe_daddy
Led Zeppelin
moi1000
ndicki
Pachy
Viso
Greycap_raf Aircraft lighting
Squiffy Stock hanger and airfield repaints
Capt. Winters Aircraft repaints and standalones,
ETO NEK, ship updates, weapons,
Pylons. QC shipping, Testing. FXtextures, Characters
Ndicki Textures, QC Shipping concept.
Dancat Original aircraft.
SBDbolt Original Aircraft Virtual Cockpit models.
Mike Wholaver Original aircraft
Winjeel Original aircraft
Klass_0_44 Original aircraft
Luca Festari Original aircraft
Jaycee Original extra weapons and pylons.
Prang Missions.
House Hobbit Missions
Mustang Testing
Middle Testing, research
DOS Ghost (writer911) Tester
tailwind Testing
DOS MAXIMUS Testing
Flyer01 Testing
Firestorm Testing
Phenozo Testing
Grizzly50 Testing (ETO 1.0, 1.20, and 1.30, 1.31, and 1.40); Project Coordinator (ad hoc – ETO 1.30, 1.31, and 1.40); Installer (ad hoc – ETO 1.30, 1.31, and 1.40),
JohnoUK original aircraft Hi Res scenery.
Ronnbengt textures
Wildbat Textures
Tom Stovall Effects on some aircraft
gecko
Bear AvH
GregoryP AvH
Gramps Original aircraft
Spitfrnd Flight Models
Alain95 Textures
Aeroplan heaven original aircraft
Crossrarm Station 121
AERA Research
Talon ship repaints and standalones
Mongoose
Bravo4 Aircraft textures
Sea Condor (Greg Law) Ships, buildings and vehicles
Original Aircraft
Nachtpiloten Original Aircraft
RCAF Gunner (Rick), original NEK files that the ETO are
expanded from.
Robby88 (Rob) Terrain Mesh
Discreet
rbp71854 Project Coordinator, Installer, Era swapper, Batch files, missions, Global Layer (ETO 1.0 and 1.20); Advisor (ETO 1.40)"
I even made your name and credit red on this copy so it would show up here.
This document was included in the install packs for ETO 1.30/1.31 and ETO 1.40 and its Hotfix package.
It also resides in the CFS3 ETO Expansion READMEs folder found in the ETO Expansion main game of any install from ETO 1.30 and on.
Nigel, again, you had given me express permission and even gave me some extra assistance. Check your old emails.
Kasey (Grizzly50)
ndicki
Charter Member 2016
OK, Casey, horns retracted. I am extremely surprised to see I gave permission at that late date, after our exclusion from the team, and can only assume I agreed out of friendship for yourself.
The rest of what I said stands.
