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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

    Post 16 Update

    Post 17 Warning

F-35 - Suggestions for further updates?

@Lionheart

Well, I tend to dislike "what if" models... aside, I do not believe that the F-35 is going to change that much over his operational service. It is an airframe built with a lot of potential to grow in the electronics department, but I do not foresee any major change in the airframe itself.
But it may be true that the future is "tail-less" (and possibly unmanned)... I do not know if the F-35 will be "the last manned (western) fighter", but my gut feeling is that designs like the Northop Grumman X-47 Pegasus could well be the future of military aviation...

@whitney17

I mean I had removed the "views"...if you cycle the views in the cockpit, in the current release, it was Virtual cockpit / close-up MFD only / Virtual cockpit forced to Wide / and then HMD only. I have removed the second and third view, as afaik nobody was using them.
So, no change in the cockpit layout nor in the functionality - just removed the two views from the view cycle...

As for the colored map, I'll think about it... I still prefer the B/W version, to be honest...
 
No streaming vapor

I noticed that it has an external vapor effect from the canopy aft. Looks like the "breaking the sound barrier" effect, but I am on half throttle or landing and that effect is still there.
 
@richoday

That is a condensation effect I added to replicate what I saw on pictures of the real F-35 and happens at high AoA.
I believe it is legitimate, but can easily be removed (together with the high-G vapour effects) by removing the relevant .fx files, if you want to...
 
Vapor effects

Dino Cattaneo said:
@richoday

That is a condensation effect I added to replicate what I saw on pictures of the real F-35 and happens at high AoA.
I believe it is legitimate, but can easily be removed (together with the high-G vapour effects) by removing the relevant .fx files, if you want to...
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Dino,

IMHO, I think is be better if you could remove those effects that cause this^. Otherwise brilliantly put together. Thanks.

:salute::applause:
 
Dino,

This is a 'big ask' so please allow for my ignorance regarding the kind of work involved!

In multiplayer, it would be excellent to see the exhaust nozzle / intake doors animations of the other folks aircraft in a Peer to Peer session. I guess this would mean controlling the animations with flaps rather than tailhook / Rob's gauge systems.

Is this possible?

Regards, Dave.
 
Dave Torkington said:
Dino,

This is a 'big ask' so please allow for my ignorance regarding the kind of work involved!

In multiplayer, it would be excellent to see the exhaust nozzle / intake doors animations of the other folks aircraft in a Peer to Peer session. I guess this would mean controlling the animations with flaps rather than tailhook / Rob's gauge systems.

Is this possible?

Regards, Dave.
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No, most probably not.

The nozzle and intake door animations are calculated/controlled by contiguous, local variables.
There are no free FS axis that could be "mis-used" for this purpose, so L:vars are used; unfortunately, L:vars are not propagated in a MP-environment.
The basic intake door angle IS part of the Tailhook animation, so that should be visible in MP.

Using flaps isn't a good solution, since FS only handles 10 discrete flaps positions, so you wouldn't have a true contiguous nozzle angle control (both vertical and lateral) like now.

Regards, Rob
 
Dino Cattaneo said:
@richoday

That is a condensation effect I added to replicate what I saw on pictures of the real F-35 and happens at high AoA.
I believe it is legitimate, but can easily be removed (together with the high-G vapour effects) by removing the relevant .fx files, if you want to...
Click to expand...

My vote is to keep the canopy trail effect. I've seen it in real world video.
 
Understood Rob, well... understood up to the point of L:vars not being propagated!

I wouldn't want the nozzle control compromised - it's such a beautiful control system.

Thanks and best, Dave.
 
Dave Torkington said:
Understood Rob, well... understood up to the point of L:vars not being propagated!

I wouldn't want the nozzle control compromised - it's such a beautiful control system.

Thanks and best, Dave.
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Hi Dave,

I'll try to explain ...
Suppose you are flying in Multiplayer with a friend.
The aircraft you are flying on your PC is visible on your friend's PC, because your FSX sends information about the position/state/etc. of your aircraft to the FSX program on your friend's PC.
Eg: if you lower the landing gear (of which the state is maintained in your FSX in a defined FSX variable), your FSX sends this info to FSX on your friend's PC.
So the aircraft you are flying, appears visually on your friend's PC with lowered gear as well.
This works for most FSX-defined variables; but not even all.

Now, the state of local (private) variables from gauges in your aircraft, are NOT sent to your friend's PC; this is a limitation of the FSX Multiplayer environment.
Since the nozzle of your F35B on your PC is controlled and animated by a local variable (L:var) in my gauge, the FSX program on your friend's PC isn't informed about that.
So your friend sees your F35B always with the nozzle straight back (corresponding with the 0-value of that variable in FSX on your friend's PC).

Clear now ?

Best, Rob

PS. Please forgive my "English"; don't know how to explain it better :)
This is also the reason why many addon's with sophisticated systems won't work properly in a Multiplayer FSX environment.
In fact (but I'm not sure) it's the same reason why some animations won't work correctly in FSX Replay mode.
 
Ah! L:var's are local variables... Understood perfectly now Rob thank you.

Considering the large number of 'global' variables [if that's the correct term] used in Shared Cockpit mode, it's a real pity that more visual aircraft animations can't be communicated via. Peer to Peer too!

I'm trying to find a definitive list of these 'global' variables for a typical Peer to Peer session from the SDK.

Commonly known are:

Landing Gear
Speed Brake
Incremental Flaps
Lighting Effects
Smoke Effects
Exit Doors / Canopy Animations

There must be a more complete list somewhere I guess.

Apologies for taking this 'Off Topic' - I'm done now.. :salute:


Best regards, Dave.
 
Dino Cattaneo said:
@Stickshaker

Well, "no-trim" can be achieved in FSX - but requires a lot of tweaking to the .air model (or even better, rely on external code for the flight module).

As for the HMD, I believe that "true" HMD rendition is almost impossible in FSX (or very difficult...I've seen people do things in FSX which I previously considered impossible...)....
For the moment we'll probably have to live with the current implementation - that is the optional superimposed 2D "panel" which follows the viewpoint (but disappears if you switch views... not sure if it possible to do much more than this...
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Thanks for a great plane. A good 2d panel would be great. I made one but it's not too good. I also added an optional little window that stays on in all views so you can go into and out of STOL and VTOL. It allows you to do that without switching windows. Bob.View attachment 75909
 
I've just been noticed by the company I work for that I will have some days off in January... the F-35 will be released in these days.
 
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