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F-8 Crusader

I'll tell you one thing...

...the organization of the textures on the AS Crusader are-- ah hem-- "Less than optimum".

I have never seen an airplane more difficult to try and move textures around and also do repaints on. I have spent about ten hours trying to get a clean version of the VMF-321 variant (so that it only has just sidewinders, and not bombs on it). Still going at it...

Kent :banghead:

PS - Just confirmed the stock VMF-321 paint job is not mapped correctly to use on any other of the included models. Sad thing is, with a few mods (give us a standard texture mapping, make the refueling probe animation work, and give us a variety of load outs (to include clean versions), this F-8 could be fully functional in FSX, and most of us F-8 nuts would buy it again!
 
delta_lima said:
I completely understand that this might deter you from considering the RF version. But if the external model of either the RF-8A or RF-8G can be done, I for one, will happily accept the compromise of having the VC of whichever fighter version you would choose to do - F-8E(FN) - just as you did with the Etendard...
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Hi guys!
Very interesting ! It seems that the RF-8G is based on the F-8E.
For what I seen in the pictures it appears that RF-8G cockpit is the F-8E panels re-organized in order to put the camera commands/controls in replacement of the weapon ones.
So far, this not a main issue for me : most of the gauges seems to be used in both cockpit.

What I can't do in the same time is to build two different set of gauges...too much work...:frown::frown:

You'll see in few weeks with the Etendard IVM/P final release exactly what I'm saying about packaging together fighter and its recco version :icon_lol: (we're currently into the last internal beta tests)

Regards and thank you!
Sylvain
 
SkippyBing said:
I think you're talking about something completely different! The Strike Fighters series of sims are a stand alone product that has nothing to do with FSX. http://thirdwire.com/projects2.htm

Installing Strike Fighters should have no effect on FSX unless something very odd is happening.
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no no, I was talking about Abacus Strike fighers (wasn't that mentiond in this forum?)
If so, then I was mearly mentioning how Abacus Strike Fighters hoses the insatlled AI carriers 2 when it installs)
It (Abacus) has a three wires configeration that it installs , I don't think its related to the link you provided
above. Abacus Strike fighters provides MISSIONS for FSX and supplies a few additional A/C to use in free flight.
 
Kent, I cannot argue with that. In vain I tried to convince Carl that this texture folder scheme was needlessly complicated ... that's just how he chose to do it.


sparouty said:
Hi guys!
Very interesting ! It seems that the RF-8G is based on the F-8E.
For what I seen in the pictures it appears that RF-8G cockpit is the F-8E panels re-organized in order to put the camera commands/controls in replacement of the weapon ones.
So far, this not a main issue for me : most of the gauges seems to be used in both cockpit.

What I can't do in the same time is to build two different set of gauges...too much work...:frown::frown:

You'll see in few weeks with the Etendard IVM/P final release exactly what I'm saying about packaging together fighter and its recco version :icon_lol: (we're currently into the last internal beta tests)

Regards and thank you!
Sylvain
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Hello Sylvain,

I'm glad you are at least open to the RF model. You will make a bunch of us very happy. Goodness, we're already happy with how the Etendard has come - it's just fabulous!

Just a point of clarity, though .....

The RF-8G was not based on the F-8E per se. The RF-8G was an update of the RF-8A. The RF-8A was based on the F-8B (I'm omitting the original pre-1962 naming scheme of F8U-1E, etc. for simplicity sake.)

The original RF-8A, since it was based on the R-8B, did not have ventral fins, did not have afterburner cooling duct, etc. of the RF-8G.

It may sound like small details, but based on which RF you model, determines some of those items. The RF-8A had a much shorter service life, and apart from Project Bullet and the Cuban Missile Crisis, did not attain the higher profile and broad squadron useage of the G. If you had to pick between the A or the G, my personal vote would be the G, as there were more squadrons that used it, and for a much longer period. In fact, many RF-8As were remanufactured into G spec .... The RF-8G could be painted to represent squadrons from the mid-60's to the late 80's, so lots of repainter opportunities there. Again, just my perspective - you decide. And as you can tell, "sharing" the VC is proving to be a comparatively small compromise for us humble folk who only dream of the kind of work you can do.

Not to take away from the original intent of your Crusader, that being the FN versions - those will be eagerly anticipated too, especially in the context of possibly some newer carriers.

Anyway - looking forward to your Etendards. Again - many thanks for all the hard work by yourself and your team.

dl
 
Yeah...

....what what delta-lima said! He is absolutely right about the RF-8A versus -G!!!

Super that you are considering it....thank you from another RF-8 nut....

Regards,

Kent
 
delta_lima said:
Kent, I cannot argue with that. In vain I tried to convince Carl that this texture folder scheme was needlessly complicated ... that's just how he chose to do it.
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Have to agree but that's the way he did it on all of his aircraft -- half a dozen models and one texture folder. IIRC it had something to do with the way he did it back when he was making cars for some racing sim. Thankfully he named the textures to match up with the model name most of the time. But it could made repaints a challenge since we didn't have the texture.cfg back then as a universal fallback (if you don't find it here look over there). The aircraft in FS were awesome in any case.
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Prowler1111 said:
Awesome news....not so good to hear for our side of things, but great news whatsoever!
Prowler
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Ron, there are always other 50's-60's jets which have not been done yet for FSX, didn't you once mention plans for a F-100 Super Sabre ?

BTW, still love your F-102; cheers,
Henk.
 
hschuit said:
Ron, there are always other 50's-60's jets which have not been done yet for FSX, didn't you once mention plans for a F-100 Super Sabre ?

BTW, still love your F-102; cheers,
Henk.
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I agree with Henk. A Vietnam era F-100D & F-100F Wild Weasel would be great!!

Cheers,
Hank
 
I've been re-reading Last of the Gunfighters...

...It just redoubles the desirability of a payware, FSX-native F-8 and RF-8....

What an airplane!

Kent
 
Or perhaps a Stoof to round off the 50's/60's US airgroups if you get bored with fast jets. Then theres the Brazillian, Argentine, Canadian, Austrailian, Dutch, Itallian, Japanese, Thai and Taiwanese birds.

Craig :ernae:
 
Whoah, putting on a dark little gnome with a big hat instead of a "gal w/ boobs" is kinda sick... even if it's the Phantom mascot :icon_lol::icon_lol::icon_lol:

At least the 84's Jolly Roger brings back some style onto the board :ernae:





PS.: Did I mention SCOOTER?
 
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