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F-94B Starfire

CFS2 and Jet engines do NOT get along is the prob. I asked about this a few years ago and got vary little. FS00? and FS02 engines have a warp fuel bug. Using warp with them will eat ALL fuel and warp you only feet.

FS98 seem to not work well with the CFS2 AI as when they are told to attack a target they will do so but its like the engines quit working for them so the slowly loss ALT and crash.
 
Allen,

In the absence of Tom Sanford & the Fox Four folks, I guess we're a bit stuck.

I've flown it in Free Flight as a player a/c using either of the following:

renamed TR_F80C airfile
renamed Piglet's T33A airfile

Not looked at the numbers at all, but Piglet's T33A airfile feels nose heavy, so there may be some CG related work there. I'didn't bother to remove all the FS2K2 entries record 1539+, so that might be the cause. But it doesn't blow up, & you can get it off the ground.

Agree that CFS2 jet AI are an issue, as is fuel management, so the potential is limited. But Bub will have something he can paint, & it will fly in the sim :icon30:
 
I'm not sure what to do. The attached model is flyable using what ever flight dynamics I last had in my test folder so that should be enough for Bub.

I have a copy of FS2004 but not sure if I want to install it as it has 4 CDs but I may have to and build the F-94B as a FS04 aircraft.
 
Well,
I have looked for what ya'll are looking for, But I get lost.

I have all perms from Tom, so someone email me what you
are looking for and I will post it on the FFS.

dea14u@aol.com

Dave
 
Hi All,
Sorry for "disappearing". I've been tied up with some issues lately and have been busy. Nothing serious, just a bunch of small things that eat away at your free time. When things settle down, I will start to work on a repaint for the aircraft. Thanks to all who are helping Allen and for your patience.
Bob
 
bub

Glad your back. I did start converting the F-94 to FS04 but again I have no idea what I'm doing with Jet engines. I did finish the last 2 LODs for the model. The final aircraft will be uploaded as an FS2004 aircraft. It will include a CFS2 .mdl and .DP for any one to convert back to CFS2 if they wish.
 
Allen,

Email me a copy of the airfile and i'll take a look at it. This didn't have afterburn did it? If it didn't then all should go fine.
 
My email won't send it so I'm attaching it. It is set up as an FS2004 aircraft. In FS2004 the engine has a power loss and it unable to climb to the 36,000 feet that the initial cruising has listed. A CFS2 model is included.

View attachment 49062
 
Got it. I'm looking through it now.

It is set for afterburn. So I'll look at making two different airfiles as AB won't work for CFS2 without using unlimited fuel.

I have to look at some old notes on jets before I start. I've forgotten a few things.
 
I think the biggest problem with jets is what you just mentioned.

You either must set to unlimited fuel or do not use the warp function in missions.
The warp function will result in a no fuel reading. Unless one of you guru greats
can figure out a way around that.
 
No Dice said:
I think the biggest problem with jets is what you just mentioned.

You either must set to unlimited fuel or do not use the warp function in missions.
The warp function will result in a no fuel reading. Unless one of you guru greats
can figure out a way around that.
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So the FS98 jet engines work fine. The FS2k jet engines allow for afterburn. It is the afterburn that causes the warp bug. FS98 engines don't have afterburn. Thats why the Fox Four jets function fine. So my plan is to use one of the airfiles and see what I can do to get it working.

Allen,

I think its the FS98 engine that is causing the problem for FS2004 model. That maybe why you're loosing power. FS2004 uses the aircraft CFG more than CFS2 does. The T-33 airfile from Piglets model should work fine for it. Just adjust the weight and thrust to match.

Is there a way to model a drag chute. Maybe use the Tail hook to activate it.
 
bearcat241 said:
If the sim cheats you, cheat it back. Put a refuel gauge on your panel and gas up when you come out of warp.
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I like the Idea of the refuel gauge. I was thinking of making a Tanker refuel mission. Basically you would have to fly formation with the tanker in the slot for X amount of time. You could then use the gauge to add fuel. I'll have to look at the event triggers and see if it can be done. I may need help to get all of them parts to work. It would work great for Vietnam.
 
Blood_Hawk23 said:
So the FS98 jet engines work fine. The FS2k jet engines allow for afterburn. It is the afterburn that causes the warp bug. FS98 engines don't have afterburn. Thats why the Fox Four jets function fine. So my plan is to use one of the airfiles and see what I can do to get it working.

Allen,

I think its the FS98 engine that is causing the problem for FS2004 model. That maybe why you're loosing power. FS2004 uses the aircraft CFG more than CFS2 does. The T-33 airfile from Piglets model should work fine for it. Just adjust the weight and thrust to match.

Is there a way to model a drag chute. Maybe use the Tail hook to activate it.
Click to expand...

With FS98 jet engines I ran into the AI engines quitting when ordered to attack. In FS04 I removed the 600 Engine Jet FS98 and ran into the same loss of power. Around 18,000 feet I think RPM start dropping. Can't get close to the 380 knots+ needed at 36,000 feet. Only around 190 knots if I'm recalling right in FS04 with only 36 gal on the plane.

The tail hook has no drag logic attached to it.
 
Well I did say Gurus,
Between bearcat, Allen and Blood_Hawk, seems we can "and will"
and already have:
bring this dusty ole sim to another level.:ernaehrung004:
 
Hi Guys,
Again, sorry for any delays in working on this repaint. Had a small problem over the weekend and spent the last few days in the hospital getting "through the roof" blood pressure taken care of. A lot better now and will have some time to finish this paint. Hopefully, when done it will look something like this.
Thanks,
Bob
 

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Put some color on her today. Kind of the same, Allen. That International-orange thing going on.
 

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Starting to look like something.
 

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