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F4U-1 Corsair "Birdcage" released by Allen!

UncleTgt said:
Dasuto,

You don't always have to change the decal textures in the main texture folder. CFS2 will look in the aircraft texture folder FIRST, & use the decal textures that are in that file. It will ONLY use the decal textures from the main Texture folder if it doesn't find any decals in the aircraft texture folder (& the aircraft uses them = stockers).

Attached is a zip with invisible decals, they may be useful to you.
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Thanks.So where do install these? The F4U1 folder?
 
Dasuto,

If you open the ZIP, just extract the F4U1_CORSAIR folder in to your CFS2 aircraft folder, and you should be good to go.
 
Lots of different ways to use these

I put them in the main texture folder. If a plane shows up without decals in the sim, I know I need to put a set of decals in its texture folder, or paint some on.

But you could put them in a particular aircraft texture folder if its showing up with stock decals + you have a paint that has decals already painted on.

Because the sim always checks the aircraft texture folder first, it is possible to have a single install with several different styles of decal. You don't have to keep swapping decal styles in the main texture folder.

Also, several of the OH reworks removed decals altogether, relying on painted on wing insignia instead.
 
...still looks like a lifetime's work to me...

Allen said:
It seem like I have done a ton of reworks of the stock aircrafts. A6M2 became A6M2 Model 22 and a Model 32. A6M5 became a A6M5C and A6M8. B-24D to a B-24J and a PB4Y-1. F4F-4 became a F4F-3 WildCatFish and a FM-2. F4U-1A to a F4U-1. G4M2 back to a G4M1. P-38F to a later P-38J. P-39D to P-39D-1 and P-39Q. Lastly the TBF became a British TBF Mk.II.

All that is left to mess with is the B5N2, B-25D, C-47, D3A1, F6F3, Ki43, N1K2, TBD-1 and SBD-2
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You forgot the A6M2N too:encouragement:

FWIW, my listing would be:

D3A1 - Please make a D3A2:nature-smiley-003:
SBD2 - tweak them for a SBD3 & SBD5
F6F-3 - put the small windows in for a -3, leave as it is for a -5
N1K2 - if poss, put the wings to mid-fuselage & fiddle with the gear some to make the earlier N1K1-J
F4U-1A. Chop 8 inches off each wingtip to make a FAA Corsair MkII
F4U-1A. Remove canopy framing to make a F4U-1D
F4U-1D. Chop 8 inches off each wingtip a FAA Corsair MkIV
F4U-1D. Make the prop 4 blade paddle type + add a small intake to the bottom of the engine cowl. This gets you a F4U-4.
TBF-1. Make the prop paddle bladed, add a small intake to the bottom of the engine cowl (mirroring the top one) gets you a TBM-3E.
B24D. Chop 3 feet off the nose ahead of the windshield, remove the upper turret & belly turret. Make the rear turret a handheld station. Reshape the engine nacelles to circles instead of ovals. This gets you a B24A or LB-30. Add stickleback ASV radar & a 4 x 20mm cannon belly pack & you have a RAF Liberator I
B24D. Make engine nacelles circular. Remove the belly turret. Reposition upper turret to rear of wing, makes the LB-30A. Make the turret guns Boulton Paul style 4 gun turrets & you have the RAF Liberator II
B25D. Oh, where to start. OK, I'll stop now...

My point is, there are lot's more options. What's important is whether you enjoy doing this, & whether you get pleasure out of it. Nothing else matters... :a1089:
 
...I know, but ...

I know, but I can't ask Dbolt or the FDG team to take 8 inches off the wingtips, & remove the aerial mast to make a FAA Corsair MkIV now can I?:biggrin-new:

And I can hardly expect Allen to work on someone else's model when he's already got a perfectly good source file in G-Max that he created himself.:devilish:
 
UncleTgt said:
I know, but I can't ask Dbolt or the FDG team to take 8 inches off the wingtips, & remove the aerial mast to make a FAA Corsair MkIV now can I?:biggrin-new:

And I can hardly expect Allen to work on someone else's model when he's already got a perfectly good source file in G-Max that he created himself.:devilish:
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I am not 100% sure, but didn't Allen use Dbolt's demirrored Corsair to make this birdcage version ? I believed the only demirrored stock Corsair was Dbolt's one, but I could be mistaking...
 
My F4U is a fresh convert of the stock mirrored model. Dbolt and the OH F4U-1 don't use decals from what I recall. I know the OH F4U-1 dosen't.

Doing small change to a model once I have the gMax source made isn't bad (converting the B-24 back is almost a no-go) but making new ones for small changes or to make an aircraft that will get almost no use isn't really worth the time (D3A1, SBD-2 and F6F-3). I did a TBF-1 gMax and if some one wants it to do the changes let me know.

As for the F4U...

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That looks awesome!:redfire: Many thanks.:monkies:

Allen, totally understand your point of view, & I'm not badgering at all. I'll take anything you want to turn your hand to.

But I still wish someone would do a D3A2, it was the major version built (470 D3A1 vs1016 D3A2) & in use from June '42 onwards.
 
I'm not sure what changes were done from D3A1 to the D3A2 but for the engine and fuel load...
 
Visually, the cowling was a bit more tapered to the front, and the gunners canopy was streamlined an appreciably longer. I'll dig up some drawings, if you are interested.

Steve
 
Wayland

Not really but the info would help as I may get to it at one point. I was thnking about messing with the OH B-25 but not sure if I want to fight with the tail to make it into a later J.

All Others.

The clip wing model is done but dose some one have a british texture for the stock/Dbolt/OH F4U?
 
Here's a couple of general arrangement drawings of both versions. I'll dig around and see if I can come up with bit better drawings.

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Hi Allen,

Repaints: Here's my list for the Dbolt Corsairs

Corsair Mk II (F4U-1A)
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=58&id=2336
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=58&id=2463
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=58&id=2460
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=58&id=2337
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=58&id=2461
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=58&id=2411
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=58&id=2464
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=58&id=2409
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=58&id=2410

All are BPF Palembang or BPF Iceberg skins

Corsair MkIV (F4U-1D)
http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=58&id=2462

This one is "Hammy" Gray VC

Take whatever you want, chop it, rearrange it...:encouragement:

Radios:
It's said the Brit radios didn't need the aerial mast. Apart from a very few aircraft, the masts were removed.
 
Thank you!

Thank you very much Allen for this new effort of yours! :applause: :applause: :applause:

May I ask you if it would it be possible lowering the cockpit of your F4U1 "Birdcage" Corsair a little bit?

The difference in the cockpit position between the F4U1 and its development, the F4U1-A, is substantial.

Ltnt. Cdr. "Tommy" Blackburn, C.O. of VF-17, in his "The Jolly Rogers" memoirs explains in detail the contributions made by his squadron in teething the early F4U1, which led to the -A variant. Contributions not always acknowledge by other sources, since some vital modifications carried out in the field by VF-17 technicians, during the squadron pre-ops training months, like the stall-retarding spoiler welded to the leading edge of the Corsair left wing, are not attributed to VF-17 efforts.
Chance Vought, whose technicians were working side by side with VF-17 mechanics and technical officer, made these fields mods standard features in the -A production run. The leading edge spoiler, a standard feature of the U1-A and later variants, corrected the vicious habit of the Birdcage Corsair to stall suddenly the left wing at low speeds without warning. With this mod, the -A low speed stall characteristics became more gentle and gave enough warning to the pilot.
Low speed control was vital in an airplane designed for carrier operations.

VF-17 also developed the very first ventral bomb rack for the Corsair, utilising the bolts for the catapult hooks.

You can read a nice summary of Blackburn's book here:

http://acepilots.com/usn_blackburn.html

Blackburn's involvement in Operation Torch must also be noted.

One of the main complaints from VF-17 pilots was the terrible lack of forward visibility, determined by the low cockpit of the Birdcage Corsair combined with the F4U huge nose. Another negative aspect in view of future carrier ops.

VF-17 was the first Navy squadron to be equipped with the new Corsair, Chance Vought had invested heavily in the new fighter and the Bridgeport, CT company future was very much at stake, depending 100% upon the Corsair success or failure. The same poor pilot's visibility complaint came from Marines units that had already tried the F4U1 in combat over Guadalacanal.

Chance Vought responded promptly to this request, by replacing the "birdcage" canopy with a new blown Perspex "bubble" canopy and by raising several inches the entire cockpit.
This gave the definitive look of the classic F4U1-A Corsair and later variants, with both a tapered nose and rear fuselage, culminating with the cockpit canopy. VF-17 deployed in combat the very first "dash A" Corsairs.

Watching the two aircraft variants standing side by side, the difference in cockpit height and fuselage shape between the U1 and the U1-A is quite evident. The fuselage shape and cockpit height of this F4U1 shows its legacy from the stock CFS2 F4U1-A Corsair. If modifying it would be too complicated, don't bother. No problem!

Cheers!
KH :ernaehrung004:
 
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