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F9F Cougar (Rob Richardson)

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mal998 said:
I have a special affinity for the Cougar. These 2 newspaper photos will tell the story of what happened when I wrote to the Navy for aircraft photos. This happened in 1956 when I was 10 years old. BTW, I still have that model.

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That's a really good story!
I'd love to see a close up picture of that model, from what I can see in the article they look first class quality.
 
mal998 said:
I have a special affinity for the Cougar. These 2 newspaper photos will tell the story of what happened when I wrote to the Navy for aircraft photos. This happened in 1956 when I was 10 years old. BTW, I still have that model.

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Great story! Thanks for sharing it. :biggrin-new:

Brian
 
Wings of Gold said:
Much as I would like any Cougar, the two seat version remained long after the single seat version left service. It was unusually attractive, and trained a great number of Naval Aviators. I remember it fondly. Please Rob.
Bill
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The single seat is all I can think about right now, so much work involved, although I do like the trainer and the P8.
I have quite a lot of info on all models, just got hold of "Naval Fighters 66" and "67", loads of good photos and diagrams!
I've never seen one in the flesh, dont think there are any in UK museums.
There is one on board the USS Intrepid in New York ,which I visited a few years back, but it was not there then.
I'm afraid the old pension will not run to another trip just yet!

RobR
 
robcarrich said:
The single seat is all I can think about right now, so much work involved, although I do like the trainer and the P8.
I have quite a lot of info on all models, just got hold of "Naval Fighters 66" and "67", loads of good photos and diagrams!
I've never seen one in the flesh, dont think there are any in UK museums.
There is one on board the USS Intrepid in New York ,which I visited a few years back, but it was not there then.
I'm afraid the old pension will not run to another trip just yet!

RobR
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We got one up in Seattle at the Boeing Museum of Flight.

And there's a trainer at the Evergreen Aviation Museum down in McMinnville, Or.

I might have some external pics from prior visits if it might help.
 
Rob,
Here she is, a little worse for wear. After all, I have been dragging her around for the past 61 years. OMG! Many years ago while I was still into model building (probably the late sixties, early seventies) I got the bright idea to re-paint her in USN Gloss Sea Blue. That little venture undoubtedly cost me some dollars in re-sale value as old Topping models can be quite valuable. This model unpainted was probably worth $80-$90 u.s.


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Loved the two seater at Moffit in the late 50’s. Lots of them unfortunately ended up in the golf course or clobbering the big “wheels Down” sign between the runways.
 
mal998 said:
Rob,
Here she is, a little worse for wear. After all, I have been dragging her around for the past 61 years. OMG! Many years ago while I was still into model building (probably the late sixties, early seventies) I got the bright idea to re-paint her in USN Gloss Sea Blue. That little venture undoubtedly cost me some dollars in re-sale value as old Topping models can be quite valuable. This model unpainted was probably worth $80-$90 u.s.


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I thought it looked good in the newspaper clip and it mentioned the models come from Grumman and sure enough that's a beauty!
Thank you for taking the trouble to show it.

RobR
 
Rob, Actually I might just have some info on the Cougar in the form of Grumman pictures, books and pilot's manuals. PM me your email and I'll zip up a bunch of stuff and send it over to you.

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Hi Rob, I have all 4 volumes of John Elliott's "The Official Monogram US Navy and Marine Corp Aircraft Color Guide"' These have complete coverage of the USN external and interior painting directives - along with diagrams. PM me your email and I'll send you applicable paragraphs. Best, Bill
 
robcarrich said:
Any information you might have would be very welcome, thank you in advance.

RobR
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Systems & performance wise, let me know what you might need. I am 74 now, but remember much about it - and there is some WEIRD stuff!

For instance, the pneumatic, 3rd level redundant pneumatic flaperette system - emergency use, 22 cycles of left and right stick before the bottle charge was gone. Only in case you lost TWO hydraulic systems! We actually had to practice landings with flaperettes; there was a switch to isolate the flaperon system so only the flaperettes worked.

like most older jets, constant speed drives to run an AC generator were not developed yet, so you had DC powered motors to run AC generators (primary and secondary inverters) By the way, the A-3 "Whale" used engine bleed air to turn air turbine motors to run AC generators. You can see the ATM exhausts on the port side fuselage low and aft of the cockpit (two holes) - pretty obvious when you look for them. All this crap didn't help the weight issues on older and underpowered planes.
 
Mike71 said:
Systems & performance wise, let me know what you might need. I am 74 now, but remember much about it - and there is some WEIRD stuff!

For instance, the pneumatic, 3rd level redundant pneumatic flaperette system - emergency use, 22 cycles of left and right stick before the bottle charge was gone. Only in case you lost TWO hydraulic systems! We actually had to practice landings with flaperettes; there was a switch to isolate the flaperon system so only the flaperettes worked.

like most older jets, constant speed drives to run an AC generator were not developed yet, so you had DC powered motors to run AC generators (primary and secondary inverters) By the way, the A-3 "Whale" used engine bleed air to turn air turbine motors to run AC generators. You can see the ATM exhausts on the port side fuselage low and aft of the cockpit (two holes) - pretty obvious when you look for them. All this crap didn't help the weight issues on older and underpowered planes.
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Mike,

what was your fleet platform? I’m a current F-18F guy, but love hearing about systems and sea stories from the older aircraft. Grew up wanting to be an A-6 pilot, but missed that jet by about 20 years. Still get the strike mission though!!

Evan
 
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