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FCS Lancaster DOWNLOAD
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Roger
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Lancaster CD is now available for US
Folks -
The Lancaster CD and/or download is now available for US purchase at the following link for $29.90 US.
http://www.pcaviator.com/shop/index.php
Boz
Folks -
The Lancaster CD and/or download is now available for US purchase at the following link for $29.90 US.
http://www.pcaviator.com/shop/index.php
Boz
Has anyone also used the Aeroplane Heaven Lanc? How does the FCS offering compare?
I'd like to get this, but the AH version was pretty poor, especially in the VC.
Is this one aircraft model rather than the four that AH uses for different positions?
Also is the VC fully interactive?
Finally if the RealAir spit was a 10, how would you rate this Lanc?
appreciate your feedback
I'd like to get this, but the AH version was pretty poor, especially in the VC.
Is this one aircraft model rather than the four that AH uses for different positions?
Also is the VC fully interactive?
Finally if the RealAir spit was a 10, how would you rate this Lanc?
appreciate your feedback
Suggestions from the update
After testing the BI and BIII models for some time now I have the following suggestions:
The flight model:
The attitude of the fuselage during cruise is too nose-high. An increase in cruise lift will solve this. The behaviour at FL240 is underpowered, tweaking the FSX supercharging possibilities will help there.
The exterior model:
Especially the early (1942, 44 squadron ) BI has a lot of errors:
the propellor type is wrong: the needle type should be used not the later paddle type. The pitot is not the early longer type, the midupper turret was not yet equipped with the collar (can it be made transparent?), the antennae are wrong.
But most annoying: viewed from the outside the exhaust anti-flame covers are missing while visible from the inside!? (solved by applying the BIII mdl file). Furthermore the markings appear to be white or very light grey but should be darker grey clearly different from the white in the roundels. Also the exhaust stains look too little and too dark. On most aircraft grey-white stains are visible indeed very strong and extending to the wing surfaces. Even on the present bbmf lancaster!
All these findings have be identified by looking at wartime photo's.
The internal model:
The night lighting is way to bright and should be RED! There are strong reflections on outside surfaces. The Lanc is now advertising itself with lights like in a greenhouse: come and shoot me please....
By using a different effect ( fx_vclight_red) a much more subtile effect is possible. The light effect is not emitting a concentrated light bundle but ambient light although lamps are 3D modelled. Therefore the vc light positions are irrelevant, reducing those and replacing them further down and on the central axis solves the outside reflections. Now all instrument are visible in a red glow and from the outside only the pilot is faintly illuminated in red.
Hope this helps with the coming update
Paul
After testing the BI and BIII models for some time now I have the following suggestions:
The flight model:
The attitude of the fuselage during cruise is too nose-high. An increase in cruise lift will solve this. The behaviour at FL240 is underpowered, tweaking the FSX supercharging possibilities will help there.
The exterior model:
Especially the early (1942, 44 squadron ) BI has a lot of errors:
the propellor type is wrong: the needle type should be used not the later paddle type. The pitot is not the early longer type, the midupper turret was not yet equipped with the collar (can it be made transparent?), the antennae are wrong.
But most annoying: viewed from the outside the exhaust anti-flame covers are missing while visible from the inside!? (solved by applying the BIII mdl file). Furthermore the markings appear to be white or very light grey but should be darker grey clearly different from the white in the roundels. Also the exhaust stains look too little and too dark. On most aircraft grey-white stains are visible indeed very strong and extending to the wing surfaces. Even on the present bbmf lancaster!
All these findings have be identified by looking at wartime photo's.
The internal model:
The night lighting is way to bright and should be RED! There are strong reflections on outside surfaces. The Lanc is now advertising itself with lights like in a greenhouse: come and shoot me please....
By using a different effect ( fx_vclight_red) a much more subtile effect is possible. The light effect is not emitting a concentrated light bundle but ambient light although lamps are 3D modelled. Therefore the vc light positions are irrelevant, reducing those and replacing them further down and on the central axis solves the outside reflections. Now all instrument are visible in a red glow and from the outside only the pilot is faintly illuminated in red.
Hope this helps with the coming update
Paul
d0mokun
Merovingian Ninja
Hi Paul,
Thanks for the comments- I can't make any promises, but I have taken them all into consideration. If I get permission I shall act on all visual notes. Flight dynamics etc aren't handled by myself but I'm sure will be resolved if need be.
With a project of this size there are bound to be issues, especially minor inaccuracies. Minor to one may be major to another- I respect that. However with 10 models to work on, mistakes are inevitable, regardless of testing, knowledge or any other factor. I've studied the Lanc for years and have made two commercial models- still I didn't notice things..
It takes the time after release with more knowledgeable people flying the project to bring previously unseen considerations to light. For that I again thank you.
Weathering is a subjective thing at best and to change the colour is not as simple as it may sound. Furthermore is the issue that to 'just' change the colour, it'd require modifications to 24 maps per scheme; with ten schemes, that's 240 maps just to run the risk of someone else then saying the weathering isn't present enough, or is too light, etc. Texture mistakes are of course exemption and could/ should be resolved.
Best
Dan.
Thanks for the comments- I can't make any promises, but I have taken them all into consideration. If I get permission I shall act on all visual notes. Flight dynamics etc aren't handled by myself but I'm sure will be resolved if need be.
With a project of this size there are bound to be issues, especially minor inaccuracies. Minor to one may be major to another- I respect that. However with 10 models to work on, mistakes are inevitable, regardless of testing, knowledge or any other factor. I've studied the Lanc for years and have made two commercial models- still I didn't notice things..
It takes the time after release with more knowledgeable people flying the project to bring previously unseen considerations to light. For that I again thank you.Weathering is a subjective thing at best and to change the colour is not as simple as it may sound. Furthermore is the issue that to 'just' change the colour, it'd require modifications to 24 maps per scheme; with ten schemes, that's 240 maps just to run the risk of someone else then saying the weathering isn't present enough, or is too light, etc. Texture mistakes are of course exemption and could/ should be resolved.
Best
Dan.
update
Hi Dan,
Please don't get me wrong, this lancaster is by far the best ever produced for flightsimming. The attention to detail is simply breathtaking.
I think that the BI and BIII models have been based on aircraft produced later in the war. This is reflected in the choice of the propellor and the deletion of the fuselage windows (BI). I can very well appreciate the choice not to pursue all possible lancaster varieties, but why then the representation of an early 1942 Augsburg raid lanc?
The modifications to the flightmodel and lighting have already been made, and also same texture modifications have been made (exhaust stains, fully black spinners and propellor blades, dark earth differences on the engine cowlings, differences in the black on the rear and forward fuselage sections and darker grey markings on KM-C. All quite simple done by tuning and adding extra paint layers.
I would be more then happy to share my (for now private) alterations to the model. Next repaint will be LS-C/ME844 summer 1944 with extensive exhaust stains.
Good luck with the update,
Paul
Hi Dan,
Please don't get me wrong, this lancaster is by far the best ever produced for flightsimming. The attention to detail is simply breathtaking.
I think that the BI and BIII models have been based on aircraft produced later in the war. This is reflected in the choice of the propellor and the deletion of the fuselage windows (BI). I can very well appreciate the choice not to pursue all possible lancaster varieties, but why then the representation of an early 1942 Augsburg raid lanc?
The modifications to the flightmodel and lighting have already been made, and also same texture modifications have been made (exhaust stains, fully black spinners and propellor blades, dark earth differences on the engine cowlings, differences in the black on the rear and forward fuselage sections and darker grey markings on KM-C. All quite simple done by tuning and adding extra paint layers.
I would be more then happy to share my (for now private) alterations to the model. Next repaint will be LS-C/ME844 summer 1944 with extensive exhaust stains.
Good luck with the update,
Paul
d0mokun
Merovingian Ninja
Hi Paul,
Certainly not taking any comments wrong- they are all very helpful and will be acted upon!
Textures- easy enough to modify for one, but for the 240 maps that need editing it'd take a lot of time: time better spent chasing any other issues first.
I am very keen to make the BI and BIII accurate (as well as delete the guns on the MR, etc). I think the little (or subtle, rather) changes will bring a greater product to the table.
:ernae:
Certainly not taking any comments wrong- they are all very helpful and will be acted upon!
Textures- easy enough to modify for one, but for the 240 maps that need editing it'd take a lot of time: time better spent chasing any other issues first.
I am very keen to make the BI and BIII accurate (as well as delete the guns on the MR, etc). I think the little (or subtle, rather) changes will bring a greater product to the table.
:ernae:
d0mokun
Merovingian Ninja
Hi chaps,
Tyres without the white Dunlop text are attached.
Either install the FSX textures to the 'texture' directory, or to each folder individually as required.
The FS9 texture should be installed to each folder individually as required.
FSX zip has both main and specular textures. FS9 only has the main texture.
Best
Dan.
Tyres without the white Dunlop text are attached.
Either install the FSX textures to the 'texture' directory, or to each folder individually as required.
The FS9 texture should be installed to each folder individually as required.
FSX zip has both main and specular textures. FS9 only has the main texture.
Best
Dan.
Dan,
Your constant attention too our requests however large or small is greatly appreciated, nothing wrong with those tires now
Its because of you my friend ( if I may ) I went out and purchased the CH Products Throttle Quadrant to give me that four engine control I've been looking for ........ "wow".
Now how bout a Stirling !!
Cheers
Aircanuck
Your constant attention too our requests however large or small is greatly appreciated, nothing wrong with those tires now
Its because of you my friend ( if I may ) I went out and purchased the CH Products Throttle Quadrant to give me that four engine control I've been looking for ........ "wow".
Now how bout a Stirling !!
Cheers
Aircanuck
Ok Dan,
Just give a shout if you need any help! And Aircanuck: now we are asking (too much?) but that would be great and how about the halifax? It seems that first class simulations is now our only hope for really good WWII RAF aircraft. A2A was good but shifted it's attention to american aircraft only?
Paul
Just give a shout if you need any help! And Aircanuck: now we are asking (too much?) but that would be great and how about the halifax? It seems that first class simulations is now our only hope for really good WWII RAF aircraft. A2A was good but shifted it's attention to american aircraft only?
Paul