• There seems to be an uptick in Political comments in recent months. Those of us who are long time members of the site know that Political and Religious content has been banned for years. Nothing has changed. Please leave all political and religious comments out of the forums.

    If you recently joined the forums you were not presented with this restriction in the terms of service. This was due to a conversion error when we went from vBulletin to Xenforo. We have updated our terms of service to reflect these corrections.

    Please note any post refering to a politician will be considered political even if it is intended to be humor. Our experience is these topics have a way of dividing the forums and causing deep resentment among members. It is a poison to the community. We appreciate compliance with the rules.

    The Staff of SOH

  • Server side Maintenance is done. We still have an update to the forum software to run but that one will have to wait for a better time.

fdg2_ p-47d-23 issues

highpockets

highpockets

SOH-CM-2025
After takeoff , the a/c tries to roll hard left. Holding hard right aileron keeps from crashing but will not straighten out.I use keyboard for trim. How do I change the trim in the aircraft .cfg?Any other a/c in the install fly just fine with joystick.
 
Hello Highpockets,

I had the same issue with the P-47D-23 that I built many years ago. It turned out to be an error in the Damage Profile in which with full ammunition loads, one side was much heavier than the other. I eventually figured it out by firing off all the ammunition and when I did that, the problem went away. There is also the possibility that the Fuel Tanks are mis-located but that is less likely because on those Thunderbolts, all tanks were on the centerline of the aeroplane.

- Ivan.
 
Capt Kurt was doing some rework on that plane under the title message" battle for Europe." I think he did another dp on it.
I am going back to look. I did not know enough about the model as to where to look. Good tip! thanks
 
Reply...

Highpockets,

Captain Kurt was going to look at the .dp to "toughen it up" a bit. I am aware of the flight envelope issue, and am going to try and find a solution for it prior to releasing an update. Interestingly, it only happens with the centerline tank attached, and does not have the problem when the tank is absent.
 
Went looking and no full FDG2 P-47 seems to be left here. :dizzy: Going to guess some copy and paste of drop tank data was done and not tested.
 
Reply...

Allen said:
Went looking and no full FDG2 P-47 seems to be left here. :jawdrop:

Going to guess some copy and paste of drop tank data was done and not tested.
Click to expand...

Allen,

Au contraire, mon frère: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/local_links.php?action=jump&catid=52&id=14046

"FDG v.2 P-47d-23 Thunderbolt Fightertown Design Group V. 2 Anthony Sullenger, Mike Wagner, Kevin Bacon, Pete Haley, Dave Adams, Lobo de Silva, Jay McDaniel For Contact: gramps at sim-outhouse dot com or blindbacon at hotmail dot com."
 
CFS2 air file structure doesn't allow for a "true" centerline ventral drop tank position in the air file. All models using such a tank are forced to use the left drop tank position for the tank and it must be set to "0" feet laterally, to reflect its true centerline position on the a/c's belly. The metric numbers in the tank positions dictate where the tank weight will be carried in the dynamics.

In the case of this model, the tank position was not set to "0" feet for weight assignment to the belly, so the weight of the fully loaded 175 pound tank is being loaded on the left wing, with the wing-dipping effect you're experiencing. Simply set the lateral offset to "0" and you'll be fine.


lEcJUAa.jpg
 
bearcat241 said:
CFS2 air file structure doesn't allow for a "true" centerline ventral drop tank position in the air file. All models using such a tank are forced to use the left drop tank position for the tank and it must be set to "0" feet laterally, to reflect its true centerline position on the a/c's belly. The metric numbers in the tank positions dictate where the tank weight will be carried in the dynamics.

In the case of this model, the tank position was not set to "0" feet for weight assignment to the belly, so the weight of the fully loaded 175 pound tank is being loaded on the left wing, with the wing-dipping effect you're experiencing. Simply set the lateral offset to "0" and you'll be fine.
Click to expand...

Many thanks for this, Bearcat. Easy when you know how!

I notice the airfile for FDG's original version of the P-47 didn't have this issue. Just goes to show how complicated all the spinning plates are and how even old-timey designers can drop one once in a while!

Cheers
BuV
 
Thanks for all the input.:dizzy: I will happily wait till one of you airfile guys fix it. Felt like I was driving an 18 wheeler with a blow left front tire.:playful:
 
Rami

I used the search and FDG2 and never saw it. Guess I should have done a basic FDG search. Just glad problem is found.
 
Reply...

Bearcat,

Thank you very much; this is excellent information to have!
 
Reply...

Highpockets,

Here you go...
 

Attachments

  • P-47D-23.zip
    4.1 KB · Views: 3
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top