Fear For Red Arrow Pilot

I watched the video, the aircraft appeared to make a turn like the others, then just started on a downward path. I'm thinking this was not a case of pilot error or flying too close to the terrain. In any case, it is sad, my condolences to his family and friends.
 
stansdds said:
I watched the video, the aircraft appeared to make a turn like the others, then just started on a downward path. I'm thinking this was not a case of pilot error or flying too close to the terrain. In any case, it is sad, my condolences to his family and friends.
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Your amazing to be able to surmise that from the video! It could be anything - even a bird strike.
 
There is no way this was mechanical failure those jets are inspected constantly the ground crew are the best in the RAF, this was either pilot error or as said birdstike I heard it was an unofficial manouvre they did which if this is found to be true will be the end for all involved, I'm sorry for the loss of the pilot but this team has never been up to previous years standards and this is a huge public embarrassment for the RAF just hope the worlds premier miliary Aerobatic team are back up for the worlds enjoyment soon!
 
peter12213 said:
There is no way this was mechanical failure those jets are inspected constantly the ground crew are the best in the RAF, this was either pilot error or as said birdstike I heard it was an unofficial manouvre they did which if this is found to be true will be the end for all involved, I'm sorry for the loss of the pilot but this team has never been up to previous years standards and this is a huge public embarrassment for the RAF just hope the worlds premier miliary Aerobatic team are back up for the worlds enjoyment soon!
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Well I guess they don't need to bother with with Board of Inquiry then what with you having solved it.
 
I just know the Hawk it is inspected for fatique before every flight by the Jengo (Junior engineering officer) I also know that the Hawk T.1A can glide in still air for roughly 2 miles for every 1000ft lost in altitude, and I also know that there have been a few cases of bird strikes which did not end in a crash Ian Smith for example who hit a whole flock of Lap Wings over scampton back in 1996 which ended up with that aircraft being scrapped however after massive damage it did not crash or loose engine powereven though the compressor blades were heavily damaged, I as said am very upset that a great pilot lost his life, I just can't believe that this could be a mechanical error, I think this was a birdstike and may have hit or injured the pilot thus causing the aircraft to crash in the manner it did with no ejection.
 
As SB has already pointed out...the respectful thing would be to wait for results of the official inquiry rather than speculating on what may or may not have caused the accident.
 
And the "i heard" stuff is always dodgy especially from the media who have to go on so called eye witnesses who prove time and time again to be incapable of judging height and speed.

I cant imagine the manouvre over the airport was that "unofficial" as they do it every time they visit Bournemouth and I believe most other airports.
 
peter12213 said:
I just know the Hawk it is inspected for fatique before every flight by the Jengo (Junior engineering officer) I also know that the Hawk T.1A can glide in still air for roughly 2 miles for every 1000ft lost in altitude, and I also know that there have been a few cases of bird strikes which did not end in a crash Ian Smith for example who hit a whole flock of Lap Wings over scampton back in 1996 which ended up with that aircraft being scrapped however after massive damage it did not crash or loose engine powereven though the compressor blades were heavily damaged, I as said am very upset that a great pilot lost his life, I just can't believe that this could be a mechanical error, I think this was a birdstike and may have hit or injured the pilot thus causing the aircraft to crash in the manner it did with no ejection.
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All the indications are that Flt Lt Egging (God rest his soul) did not eject and stayed with his aircraft to avoid it hitting houses and a family park so was obviously not rendered totally incapable of controlling his stricken aircraft.<o:p></o:p>
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The Red ArrowsHawk’s are meticulously maintained with each aircrafts engineer flying in the spare seat to the base airfield, and are the only ground crew in the RAF who get to fly in the aircraft, so I think we should spare a thought for how he’s feeling right now. <o:p></o:p>
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Regarding the “unofficial maneuver” the burst, on arrival back at the airfield that they are using as abase on that day is something that they always do for the benefit of the people at the base (it is rather spectacular).<o:p></o:p>
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I don’t believe that The Red Arrows ever carry out unofficial maneuvers, they are always totally professional. Flt Lt Jon Egging was an Afghan war vet having flown Harriers in the conflict, and in the RAF only the very best pilots got to fly the Harrier,and only the best of the best get to fly with the Red Arrows, who are amongst the best, if not the best display team in the world, so I believe this gives an indication of Jon Egging’s flying pedigree.<o:p></o:p>
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On the BBC news yesterday the pilot’s young widow Dr Emma Egging gave a very moving tribute to her late husband.<o:p></o:p>
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Ian.<o:p></o:p>
 
For me there is no questioning the flying pedigree of Flt Lt Egging, as said the pilots are the best in the RAF, either way this is a tragic accident and if it is found that he stayed with his jet while trying to avoid populated areas while the jet was still at least under rudimentary control then he deserves at least a postumous DFC for that!!
 
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