FG-1D Corsair Milviz (preview)
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Stickshaker
SOH-CM-2023
....Yummy!!
Josh Patterson
SOH-CM-2023
Although I would like an F2G. Especially if it included a Race 57 texture!
Josh Patterson
SOH-CM-2023
Especially when a lot of other planes are being passed over. I'm itching for an Airacobra (which is in the works from Warbird Sim I hear) and would really like a Devastator. Also wish Vertigo Studios would do a Cougar to go with their Panther. Really liking the A-20 and B-26 that is being worked on here. I do understand where the payware companies are coming from though. They won't do a TBD payware because it probably wouldn't sell in as much volume as a more popular plane. (Although that's not even always true. Virtavia just put out an XB-46. (Although I think that was just someone doing it for he love of the plane and saying "Meh, maybe I'll make a few bucks on the side.") Well, they got my money, because I like weird, obscure and unusual!
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
I love all of the improvements done to the model! I remember sending nearly 100 photos of the cockpit of an unrestored/original FG-1D, and I'm glad to see it helped.
Unfortunately the color of blue used is very much incorrect for its original military service. That shade of blue was only invented on Corsair restorations in the 80's/early 90's (as in the case of the inspiration for the main paint scheme, that being the Palm Springs Air Museum example).
The WWII combat-vet FG-1D restoration at the Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum, which was just completed this summer, is the product of nearly a couple decades of research, and is finished in the original type paint it had when in service in the Pacific in 1945. The paint is lacquer-based, and already starting to chip off in places. In the original paint specifications for all of the FG-1D's that were painted glossy sea blue, part of the original specifications outlined that the top of the nose was to be painted non-specular sea blue, as you can see in these photos. Where as glossy sea blue is a deep rich tone with a lot of reflection, the non-specular sea blue was flat paint with less richness in tone. This was to provide a glare-shield out in front of the windscreen down to the cowls.
This is the exact way it was in 1945 (I believe it is the only one flying today with the original dash-number engine and two-stage supercharger as well). The cut-down/shorter antenna mast in front also seems to have been very common/the most used among the FG-1D production.
Unfortunately the color of blue used is very much incorrect for its original military service. That shade of blue was only invented on Corsair restorations in the 80's/early 90's (as in the case of the inspiration for the main paint scheme, that being the Palm Springs Air Museum example).
The WWII combat-vet FG-1D restoration at the Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum, which was just completed this summer, is the product of nearly a couple decades of research, and is finished in the original type paint it had when in service in the Pacific in 1945. The paint is lacquer-based, and already starting to chip off in places. In the original paint specifications for all of the FG-1D's that were painted glossy sea blue, part of the original specifications outlined that the top of the nose was to be painted non-specular sea blue, as you can see in these photos. Where as glossy sea blue is a deep rich tone with a lot of reflection, the non-specular sea blue was flat paint with less richness in tone. This was to provide a glare-shield out in front of the windscreen down to the cowls.
This is the exact way it was in 1945 (I believe it is the only one flying today with the original dash-number engine and two-stage supercharger as well). The cut-down/shorter antenna mast in front also seems to have been very common/the most used among the FG-1D production.
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
Some more reference photos of the correct/authentic factory/WWII paint scheme, with all of the original/correct paint finishes, markings, and stencils (the yellow markings on the tail and spinner, as well as the "buzz" numbers are of course Squadron-related).
There were three different blues in play on the original factory FG-1D's - you had glossy sea blue overall, non-specular sea blue anti-glare, and insignia blue stars & bars. On this restoration, all three of those paints are original/as used in 1945.
There were three different blues in play on the original factory FG-1D's - you had glossy sea blue overall, non-specular sea blue anti-glare, and insignia blue stars & bars. On this restoration, all three of those paints are original/as used in 1945.
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
Hand-painted demarcation line of the anti-glare shield, painted with non-specular sea blue over the glossy sea blue, all as per original and using the same recipe for the 1945-era paint.
jmig
SOH-CM-2024
Here is a right out of the camera shot taken while flying the bird this afternoon.
The program is in the beta stage now. I can't say when it will be out the door. I do know, however, Colin wants to get it to market.
How's that for political speak? Think I could work for the Trump admin?
The program is in the beta stage now. I can't say when it will be out the door. I do know, however, Colin wants to get it to market.
How's that for political speak? Think I could work for the Trump admin?
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I think that this looks stunningly realistic, and Tom Stovalls great repaints are the icing on the cake! This will be one of the highlight releases for me for this year.
Cheers,
Mark
Cheers,
Mark
SkippyBing
Charter Member
Any chance the wings will be clipped to make a Corsair IV? Not a deal breaker but it'd be nice for the Royal Navy repaints!
The white painting doesn't make sense, usually a glare resistant paint goes on that location. I suppose you did the repaint by a photo. Maybe this is a primer surface and the aircraft was awaiting a final layer with flat black or something like this?
As always, outstanding captures!
Cheers,
Mark
As always, outstanding captures!
Cheers,
Mark
Bomber_12th
SOH-CM-2023
Tom,
The anti-glare was/should be blue. While the entire airframe was painted glossy sea blue, the anti-glare was painted non-specular sea blue (which of course just means flat sea blue).
The reason why the anti-glare can appear quite light in some conditions, is because the sunlight when it hits it isn't absorbed as it is in the glossy paint. Under other conditions, the anti-glare will appear darker than the glossy paint because it is flat and doesn't reflect the surroundings.
What I would experiment with doing first is:
Diffuse texture - keep the blue in the region of the anti-glare the same as the rest of the plane, but de-saturate it a bit
Diffuse Alpha - make pure white in region of anti-glare
Specular - make lighter/brighter in region of anti-glare than the glossy sea blue paint
Specular Alpha - make sure it is quite a bit darker in the region of the anti-glare for wider spread of light refraction compared to the glossy sea blue
The restoration is only painted exactly how they originally were from 1945-onward. I believe some were likely painted over-all non specular sea blue as well (same paint as used for the anti-glare on the glossy sea blue examples).
See my post on the previous page and the photos of the aircraft and how the anti-glare looks compared to the rest of the aircraft under in-direct light (the anti-glare actually appears darker than the glossy sea blue - the two different paints are probably actually the same shade, and only appears darker under in-direct light because flat paint vs glossy/reflective paint).
The anti-glare was/should be blue. While the entire airframe was painted glossy sea blue, the anti-glare was painted non-specular sea blue (which of course just means flat sea blue).
The reason why the anti-glare can appear quite light in some conditions, is because the sunlight when it hits it isn't absorbed as it is in the glossy paint. Under other conditions, the anti-glare will appear darker than the glossy paint because it is flat and doesn't reflect the surroundings.
What I would experiment with doing first is:
Diffuse texture - keep the blue in the region of the anti-glare the same as the rest of the plane, but de-saturate it a bit
Diffuse Alpha - make pure white in region of anti-glare
Specular - make lighter/brighter in region of anti-glare than the glossy sea blue paint
Specular Alpha - make sure it is quite a bit darker in the region of the anti-glare for wider spread of light refraction compared to the glossy sea blue
The restoration is only painted exactly how they originally were from 1945-onward. I believe some were likely painted over-all non specular sea blue as well (same paint as used for the anti-glare on the glossy sea blue examples).
See my post on the previous page and the photos of the aircraft and how the anti-glare looks compared to the rest of the aircraft under in-direct light (the anti-glare actually appears darker than the glossy sea blue - the two different paints are probably actually the same shade, and only appears darker under in-direct light because flat paint vs glossy/reflective paint).
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On top of this page are the photos that show this nicely. It is interesting how that paint changes it's appearance und different lighting angle conditions.
Cheers,
Mark
Cheers,
Mark