first class simulations lancaster

jeansy said:
not entirely true, "The Conspicuous Service Medal and the Conspicuous Service Cross are distinctly Australian military awards." Tim

from itsanhonour.gov.au page

Conspicuous Gallantry Medal

Instituted in 1855 and awarded to petty officers and seamen of the Navy 'who distinguish themselves by acts of pre-eminent bravery in action with the enemy'. Carries an entitlement to use the post-nominal CGM. Later, availability extended to include non-commissioned officers and men of the Air Force and Army serving afloat and persons holding similar ranks in the Merchant Navy. The Medal was discontinued in 1993. The ribbon was changed in 1921 from one of two stripes of dark blue flanking a central white stripe to a white ribbon with narrow blue edges.
There have been 12 Conspicuous Gallantry Medals awarded to Australian service personnel: 11 awards in recognition of service during WWII and one award in recognition for service in Vietnam.

Conspicuous Gallantry Medal (Flying)

Instituted in 1942 by King George VI as an additional gallantry award. Awarded to non-commissioned officers and men of the Air Force 'for acts of conspicuous gallantry while flying in active operations against the enemy'. It is the Air Force equivalent to the Conspicuous Gallantry Medal with a white ribbon with narrow dark blue edges used mainly for the Army and Navy. The Medal was discontinued in 1993. The ribbon is of light blue with a narrow dark blue stripe at each edge. The award entitles the holder to use the post-nominal CGM. The last award to an Australian was in 1968 bringing to 11 the total awarded, all of whom were members of the RAAF. Only one award of the CGM (for the Navy) has been made to an Australian.

Ex W4783 460 Sqn AR-G RAF. then became A66-2 RAAF (known as George)
http://www.adf-gallery.com.au/gallery/Lancaster-A66-2

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Hi Matt,

My bad.. I did mean to say the "CMG" and not the "CGM". You are totally correct.

Cheers,
Tim.
 
A small gift to the Aussies from me, G for George:

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The Sqn code and nose G needed to be hand made as the font is considerable smaller or wider than the official RAF font. The serial is also hand made. The mission score needed to be moved a bit back compared to the real location to clear the pitot tube.

It has also got me interested in making 463 "JO" Lancaster as this squadron flew several missions over Norway during the war. The most famous was JO-Y (I think) which was the camera ship for the Tirpitz raids.
 
:encouragement: Even us Kiwi's have walked around this one ... not so strange, my older brother Allan had to drag me outta the Imperial War Museum kicking and screaming :biggrin-new:
 
Thank you very much JensOle.

If you ever get to OZ make sure you pop into Canberra and visit the "Australian War Memorial", it is truly an amazing place. Be warned! You will need a whole day (maybe two) to see and read everything.

If you get on their web site they do a live feed every day at closing time in which they choose a fallen person and read out their history followed buy "The Last Post". Very moving.

https://www.awm.gov.au/events/last-post-ceremony/

Cheers,
Tim.
 
I make a point of visiting when I'm in Canberra, mainly to check out 'The Wall'.
The staff do a great job in presenting the exhibits and the have a large number of interesting aircraft in storage.
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Australia is definitely on my list of countries I want to visit and when the time comes I'll try and schedule a visit to The Australian war museum and George.

As the Bomber Command veterans got a rather cold shoulder after the war I'm glad to see this very special Lancaster has become a main exhibit in the "Striking by Night" hall. You can argue all day about the British night bombing campaign against Germany, but personally what strikes me are the extreme brave young men of Bomber Command (BC was an all volunteer service). Just 460 Sqn alone lost over a 1000 men killed over a 3 year period. The extreme stress and horror these men lived and died under is difficult to understand for people of our generation.
 
JensOle said:
Australia is definitely on my list of countries I want to visit and when the time comes I'll try and schedule a visit to The Australian war museum and George.

As the Bomber Command veterans got a rather cold shoulder after the war I'm glad to see this very special Lancaster has become a main exhibit in the "Striking by Night" hall. You can argue all day about the British night bombing campaign against Germany, but personally what strikes me are the extreme brave young men of Bomber Command (BC was an all volunteer service). Just 460 Sqn alone lost over a 1000 men killed over a 3 year period. The extreme stress and horror these men lived and died under is difficult to understand for people of our generation.
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I could never understand the rationale behind the decision to not grant a campaign medal to the crews of Bomber Command, something that Arthur Harris worked long and hard for.
Each operational flight by a Bomber Command crew was the equivalent of 'Going over the top' in WW.I parlance, and these airborne assaults went on and on, with crews either dying or reaching their designated number of ops, only to return to operations after a brief respite, usually at an OTU, not exactly a stress free posting.
And awarding a Campaign ribbon 70+ years on is not a generous gesture in my opinion.
 
wombat666 said:
I could never understand the rationale behind the decision to not grant a campaign medal to the crews of Bomber Command, something that Arthur Harris worked long and hard for.
Each operational flight by a Bomber Command crew was the equivalent of 'Going over the top' in WW.I parlance, and these airborne assaults went on and on, with crews either dying or reaching their designated number of ops, only to return to operations after a brief respite, usually at an OTU, not exactly a stress free posting.
And awarding a Campaign ribbon 70+ years on is not a generous gesture in my opinion.
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Noel, I remember reading somewhere that it has something to do with people who today we call dogooders claiming that bombing was indiscriminate and killed many civilians where the Army and the Navy only hit military objects. RAF were not awarded campaign medals at the time was because of the civilian casualties.
 
The British and commonwealth political leaders tried their best at wash their hands after the war on the expense on the men they had sent into the meat grinder over the night skies of Germany. It was the political leaders with Churchill in front which were in charge of the plan of strategic night bomber. Churchill himself gave the go ahead for the Dresden raid, something he tried his best of hiding after the war. Even for a man like Harris it would have been impossible to make up his own bombing campaign against Germany (this campaign was extremely resource and manpower intensive and was a clearly political choice to make a reality) . Bomber command often lost more men in a single raid than Fighter Command lost during the entire Battle of Britain, still the men virtually got no political recognition after the war. Not until our days have this changed with dedicated bomber command memorials. I would also believe that the last two flying Lancasters have a rather important mission as living memorials to these men.
 
Pat, targeting civilians indiscriminately for no tactical gain other than to crush moral is a war crime no matter what side your on, only the victors have the choice to trial their own, its anyway now we are getting into politics
 
It tend to be up to the victors to say what is war crimes or not.. In general the total war situation as ww2 was is difficult for us today with our value set to imagine. In general it seems that bombing of cities were not seen as war crimes by any of the fighting nations. With todays view Churchill, Roosevelt and Truman would be equally guilty as Hitler after the bombing campaigns they led against populated cities. In my view we cannot really judge something which happened for over 70 years ago.

Back on track, my point was that the men of RAF bomber command deserved the same recognition as the men of the other RAF commands for their part in the victory. Something the politicians of the time did not give them.
 
JensOle said:
Beta is available. Feedback is appreciated to make George as accurate as possible!

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JensOle I found nothing wrong or out of place with your paint of "G" for George. The only thing is the model (not your fault) is a little different. Your work is spot on and thank you very much for this paint.:jump:

On another note I have noticed that my "Nav" lights do not work on my model???? Does yours?

Regards,
Tim.
 
I just noticed that the Mk.III models have the exhaust covers. People might want to use the this model (or copy the Mk.III model files over to the Mk.I folder) with the wartime B.I paints for external realism. This includes George :)
 
"The Captains Fancy" JN-M of No 75 (NZ) sqn, C-flight has already been done, but I wanted to give it a try myself as well. It can be compared to G for George in fame with over 100 missions, it survived the war, but sadly not the scrap dealer.. I believe another Lancaster has been painted up to represent this aircraft in N-Z today.

Do anybody know if the serial was stacked on the right side as it was on the left side?

(wip, the nose M font has already been changed)
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