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  • Please see the most recent updates in the "Where did the .com name go?" thread. Posts number 16 and 17.

    Post 16 Update

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First Milviz Only Project: Cessna 310R

Ken Stallings said:
Indeed! There are number of cabin class turbine twins that don't have as much full fuel useful load as my C-310R. For my four-person family, the C-310R is all the airplane I will ever need for vacations. A number of the VLJ's on the market can give you speed and altitude performance, but a relatively paltry useful load when filled with fuel.

In terms of raw power at takeoff, I'm used to the 4,080 foot field elevations out here at Portales and surrounding areas. When I put in full power to takeoff at Houston (at sea level), I was literally shocked out of my senses with the resulting power on takeoff roll! When I flew the 330hp a side Baron 55, I never once got to takeoff at a low elevation airport.

Ken

Cheers,

Ken
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You used to own a baron?
 
tigisfat said:
You used to own a baron?
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Did not own it. It was co-owned (sort of) by a business and my MEI. It was supposed to be the payment to the MEI (who is a good friend) but the business owner welched on him by taking a loan out of the aircraft and then failing to make the payments! So, the lien owner took possession of the aircraft, leaving my friend out in the cold.

The really idiotic part was the loan was for only a small fraction of the worth of the aircraft, so the lien holder got a great deal out of it. But, prior to all that, I made a deal with the formal owner that I would borrow his Baron for my Commercial AMEL training and he could borrow my Skyhawk for his instrument training.

Had my friend ever taken formal ownership of the Baron, I was looking at a co-ownership with him. But, alas, that never happened. But, as it worked out, I'm better off owning the 310R.

The 310R has far better avionics and de-ice boots, hot props for de-ice, and windshield de-ice. The Baron had the 300hp engines, both low time, but no radar, stormscope, or de-ice equipment. And very important for me, the 310R has a Garmin 530W and the Baron 55 had an older King GPS.

Ken
 
6297J said:
Are you the same 'BeaverDriver' who tweaked the C185F?
If so, thank you very much! :salute:
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Well, it took a while but it looks like I can log in again (not sure I'll be able to next time though - we'll see :wavey:)

Yup, that would be me, but Bernt (sg38) did all the real work on it. I happen to have a fair bit of RW time in 185's as I was a bush pilot for a number of years, so I kinda knew how the thing should fly. Bernt, with Carenado's blessing, then took what I told him about what should happen and turned it into a very good flight model. So he certainly deserves most of the credit for that project. On behalf of him and myself though, thank you for this, and you are very welcome.
 
Ken Stallings said:
Oh she is! She is!

At cruise power settings, this aircraft from 7,000 to 10,000 feet MSL will cruise at 180 knots TAS and consume a total fuel burn rate of about 22 to 25 gallons per hour! That's a very enviable combination of performance and economy for a twin engine aircraft.

Plus, with the twin you get increased takeoff performance, payload, and safety margin.

The C-310R also has an empty weight of 3,474 pounds (approximately) and a max gross weight at takeoff of 5,500 pounds. That means you can load up fuel, bags, and people to a combined weight of about 2,026 pounds! For example, since my aircraft can carry up to 163 gallons of fuel (978 pounds) it gives me right at 1,000 pounds of useful load!

This is why the C-310R is so enjoyed by its owners, and was used for a time by the USAF in the 1950's as a utility transport, often to carry general officers to their various base visits.

Cheers,

Ken
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Hey Ken,
I've been reading with great interest your comments on the 310. Nothing like actual experience to give one a feel for even an FS airplane. My twin time is mostly on Aztecs (and not a lot at that - I spent most of my time in Beavers, Otters and 185's), so it's neat to compare what you have to say about the 310 with what I know about the Aztec ("Aztruck" :d). As a kid growing up in the 60's I was in love with the 310 when it came out, and the more it matured, the better I liked it. There is a 310R sitting on the ramp across from our hangar now and I just kind of drool at it on the way by.

Anyway, thanks for your comments and thoughts on the plane. I'm really looking forward to this one very much!
 
BeaverDriver said:
Hey Ken,
I've been reading with great interest your comments on the 310. Nothing like actual experience to give one a feel for even an FS airplane. My twin time is mostly on Aztecs (and not a lot at that - I spent most of my time in Beavers, Otters and 185's), so it's neat to compare what you have to say about the 310 with what I know about the Aztec ("Aztruck" :d). As a kid growing up in the 60's I was in love with the 310 when it came out, and the more it matured, the better I liked it. There is a 310R sitting on the ramp across from our hangar now and I just kind of drool at it on the way by.

Anyway, thanks for your comments and thoughts on the plane. I'm really looking forward to this one very much!
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Nothing beats hangar flying! Get a few pilots together and the talk about airplanes always gets intriguing! :engel016:

Ken
 
Yeah there sure is nothing like hangar flying. Being a maintainer that is all I really get to do. Although I am APU qualified so that adds some fun to everything being able to at least start APU's and run up all the systems and such. Is always a good time getting to talk with pilots about the aircraft
 
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