Flying the Hump and c47 repaints

[avedis]

Hi all,

First post here hope im in right forum section.

having the superb c47 i started geting interested in cbi etc,question is was there a specific paint for these aicraft,

thanks to all you guys who provide all the excellent goodies on S.O.H,

Richard Druce.

 

[BendyFlyer]

Yep, there are a couple. Jankees has done a couple of the C-47's that flew the hump (JK RAAF FD-D) and Jeansy has as well ( An Aussie C-47 I think). So the ones I have and use are (and I have used while I have been doing some hump flying):

The JK-RAAF FD-D (This is a representative paint of the allied C-47 colour scheme used in the CBI theatre.
JK 1st ACG
Canucks Unlimited Burma Star

Not sure about US or RAF paints for this theatre of operations in WW2 but basically any of the olive drab for the USAF would do but I am not sure if there have been any other specialised paints for the C-47 used in this theatre. There are a few about for the C-46 as well. As for the C-54 I am content with the basic olive drab repaint. The HUMP Scenery CBIX is well worth installing and gives you the navaids and airfields and some great route charts from the period. I have not found a repaint or a picture of General Stillwell's American C-47 which would have been nice, because he shuttled back and forth in a C-47 through out the early days between China and India and all points in between almost weekly sometimes. I am currently away and cannot access my storage drive where I keep all the HUMP stuff etc. But will check again in a few days.

 

[avedis]

Thanks for information ,i cant seem to find the jk RAAF FD-D paint in the library i am using fsx,

I have the cibix scenery etc and the excelent c47 from the Jan visser team i will keep searching for the repaint,

and get organised to fly the hump,have just started reading Otha C. Spencers book very interesting.

Richard.

 

[AussieMan]

JK and Jeansy only upload to the OZx site http://aussiex.org/forum/.

 

[BendyFlyer]

Thanks for information ,i cant seem to find the jk RAAF FD-D paint in the library i am using fsx,

I have the cibix scenery etc and the excelent c47 from the Jan visser team i will keep searching for the repaint,

and get organised to fly the hump,have just started reading Otha C. Spencers book very interesting.

Richard.

There are a couple of the aerodromes in CBIX which are out on their lat and long but some of the scenery and other stuff put in is a real treat and adds to the experience. If you can find the book I highly recommend " The Burma Campaign" by Frank McLynn, Vintage Books 2011. Very well researched and gives you a behind the scenes look at the cluster that was the CBI campaign, you pick up a lot of detail about hump flights and the use of air transport in that theatre just from the story. Basically they could not run that campaign against the Japanese Army any other way.

I think the mesh-global scenery for that area does need improvement but given it is a project not unlike ORBX's Pacific Northwest, lots of mountains etc. I am chasing LC an Meshes that may improve it but so far not much, trouble is you have a part of the world that is unknown and not given much attention in the sim world, the Himalayan Mountain ranges, Burma and Western China. REX weather does a good job of loading the real weather and it can be well - diabolical. Have fun.

As far as I am concerned you have not pushed or appreciated the flight sim experience until you do HUMP flights in the C-47. A must for any serious simmer and C-47/DC-3 affecionado. It is why having a first class rendition of the C-47 via Jahn and the Visser Team has really made this one great.

 

[jankees]

Here's a few:
http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/4992-manfred-jahns-douglas-c-47-raaf-34-sqn-fd-d/
http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/4956-manfred-jahns-douglas-c-47-v2-angel-wings-cbi/
http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?...jahns-douglas-c-47-v2-1st-air-commando-group/
http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/4219-manfred-jahns-douglas-c-47-v2-assam-air-lines/

and should you want more, just let me know

 

[avedis]

Thank you all for your help,i am no expert and as the milage goes up it gets more difficult so its great to have your assistence thank you.

Bendyflyer i have ordered the book thanks.

jankees thanks very much for the repaint links, do these need any help installing them in the latest jan visser team c47,

again thanks gents.

Richard.

 

[jankees]

I'm not sure, these are for version 2, but they probably work for V3 as well

 

[ncooper]

Hello,
They work with V3, you need only change this line in the aircraft.cfg entry.
Sim = Douglas_DC3_V1.5
I see in the one I tried, the thumbnail.jpg is named th.jpg and will need to be renamed to thumbnail.jpg
to see its picture in the aircraft menu.

 

[avedis]

Thanks to all,
repaints installed all working perfect, repaints are superb!!
so off to fly the hump!!!! and learn the c47 at the same time!
i will be busy.

Thanks again,

Richard.

 

[BendyFlyer]

Here's a few:
http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/4992-manfred-jahns-douglas-c-47-raaf-34-sqn-fd-d/
http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/4956-manfred-jahns-douglas-c-47-v2-angel-wings-cbi/
http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?...jahns-douglas-c-47-v2-1st-air-commando-group/
http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/4219-manfred-jahns-douglas-c-47-v2-assam-air-lines/

and should you want more, just let me know

I have these, great paints.

I am chasing down pictures of General (Vinegar Joe) Stillwell's C-47 if I find a good one that would be a must for me. Stillwell did some serious mileage in the C-47 over the Hump and in the CBI theatre. Given Stillwells character it was probably a standard coloured transport with no trimmings at all. All I have is a picture of the tail with the number 2100611 and it looks like it was plain aluminium with the US insignia right at the end of the fuselage. This is interesting because a serial number beginning with 21 would indicate an American military aircraft of the 1920-1930 period, so it is very different to the usual numbering for US military aircraft so Stillwell's number actually may be a personalised number based on his graduation from West Point perhaps. Anyway I digress.

 

[jankees]

Actually, 2100611 stands for 42-100611. The first digit is never included in the tail number.

I think Stillwell's C-47 was called uncle Joe's chariot. I have a picture of the noseart, but not the serial.

edit:

that sure looks like 42-100611, doesn't it? But this is in OD, while this one:

looks more like bare metal. Same serial though, so maybe they stripped the paint later.
It's even been to Brussels! : http://www.airliners.net/photo/USA-Air-Force/Douglas-VC-47A-Skytrain-(DC-3)/2102709

and to Senegal: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_UIclUja48Y4/S4KulL424TI/AAAAAAAAHQs/fn4JRBDVXKw/s1600-h/C47+6W-SAF+611.jpg
and France as F-GEFU: http://s30.photobucket.com/user/skytrain_c47/media/DC-3s/F-GEFU_01.jpg.html, in the end they cut it to pieces,
but the cockpit still exists, in the UK, where it was used for Band of Brothers: http://www.wingsmuseum.co.uk/douglas_c_47.htm

I'll see what I can do this weekend...

 

[BendyFlyer]

Interesting Jan. Thanks for the tip about serial numbers did not know they did this. Your right there one is in camouflage and the other polished metal, my hunch is it started in olive then was probably stripped on a major overhaul and left at aluminium. The tail shot is of Vinegar Joe with Chennault who he thought was an idiot. No rush but this will be an interesting paint.

 

[jankees]

Isn't that Curtis LeMay?

 

[roger-wilco-66]

Isn't that Curtis LeMay?

Indeed, that's Stillwell to the left with LeMay!

 

[BendyFlyer]

Indeed, my error, it is Le May, this was taken in 1944 when Le May introducing the B-29's into China to target Japan.

 

[jankees]

here's my first attempt at Uncle Joe's Chariot:

 

[wombat666]

Isn't that Curtis LeMay?

Good old 'Bomb Them Back to the Stone Age' Le May.

 

[jankees]

try it for yourself: http://aussiex.org/forum/index.php?/files/file/6049-manfred-jahns-c-47-usaaf-cbi-uncle-joes-chariot/

 

[jankees]

I couldn't resist this of course, same aircraft, but now based in Brussels during the 1950's, over my town, with Brussels in the background:



I can just see my house at the bottom of the picture..