Flyingironsimulations, major update (V1.4.0) Spitfire

Javis said:
Ok, thanks, so i *was* mistaken ...

Atleast there's 'G for George' in Australia, a Lancaster Mk I, but she's grounded at the Australian War Museum. I knew something Lanky was going on Down Under.. :)

I had the pleasure of seeing the BBMF Lanc land at Soesterberg, the Netherlands, taxiing to her parking place and shut down and being prepared for- and take-off for her air display the next morning. All from 'behind the fence' , the best seat. Sight and sound never to forget.

Seeing the Lancaster being displayed at an air show is truly something special but that's to be expected, isn't it. I can say unexpected it's even more thrilling ! Last year i was walking to my car from a store when i heared something in the air...The unmistakably sound of a Merlin... and not only one but more ! You can imagine my heart skipped a beat. What could it be, a flight of Spitfires or P-51's, or maybe a Lancaster ??... It didn't take long but there she was, coming low over the houses where i was standing in the middle of the street with my groceries, nailed to the ground and i don't think i was breathing... The majestic roar of the four Merlins filling the air, engulfing me as she passed over my head at treetop height. I thought i'd died and gone to heaven... :engel016:

The thing that surprised me even more was that, while i was almost ready to burst into flames, no one else in the street seemed to care or even look up. I had to deal with this all of a sudden, literally out of the blue, most exiting and thrilling event all on my own. I wanted to shout "Hey, People!! Didn't you see that !!?? That was a Lancaster for god sake !!! "

Nobody cares for aircraft around here. Probabely because my village is close by- and underneath the ILS path for EHAM Schiphol Runway 19C. When winds are south'ish aircraft fly over pretty low all day long. Nobody looks up, just me. They probabely don't know the difference between a 737 and a Lancaster and couldn't care less. I was happy to survive this extraordinairy event without my heart skipping more than one beat and my breath coming back alright.

Btw, thanks for the photos, Paul, not sure what my heart will do upon seeing *Two* Lancs passing by ! Together with the Spits that's 10 Merlin's in a row ! :eek:

Btw, them two T-28's in the foreground... Nice! Miss that "Chugga, Chugga" a LOT in MSFS ! (Common, Anthony ! )
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I really get you there, Jan! ;)

I never saw one. A B-17 on Hahnweide once and that was such a special moment. When it first came into sight, the 30-40.000 people attending suddenly were silent and in awe. But those were all aviation nuts from all over Europe I guess.
 
ftl818 said:
Just set the rudder trim right, gentle on the throttle and give right aileron to counter the wing dip and the aircraft takes off perfectly straight. Looking forward to the much more difficult ME109.
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I'm not saying that I have difficulty doing it, I'm saying that it's not accurate. If a real Spitfire required this much aileron deflection to prevent rolling at high power settings, the Germans would be in charge of England now.

The flight model cfg for the Spitfire shows every sign of having been built with incorrect parameters and then band-aided with scalars to approximate correct flying characteristics, and building a flight model that way is not robust to sim modelling changes and developer updates. It ends up being band-aid over band-aid over band-aid.

But this was pre update, so I'll be interested to see how 1.4 behaves.

August
 
K5083 said:
I'm not saying that I have difficulty doing it, I'm saying that it's not accurate. If a real Spitfire required this much aileron deflection to prevent rolling at high power settings, the Germans would be in charge of England now.

The flight model cfg for the Spitfire shows every sign of having been built with incorrect parameters and then band-aided with scalars to approximate correct flying characteristics, and building a flight model that way is not robust to sim modelling changes and developer updates. It ends up being band-aid over band-aid over band-aid.

But this was pre update, so I'll be interested to see how 1.4 behaves.

August
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My understanding was that the new flight model has been validated by BBMF pilots ?
 
I look forward to trying it out, then.

Although, as a rule, when I hear that a flight sim plane has been endorsed by real pilots of the type, it tends not to impress me much, at least as regards flight handling. I'm sure the endorsement is sincere, but differences and "artistic license," for lack of a better word, that must be taken in translating real world flight to a consumer PC sim are such that I don't really even know what such an endorsement means. YouTuber 737NG Driver did a good video on this subject some weeks ago. Still, it's better than them saying it sucks, I guess!

August
 
I think it is better now. The excess torque has been tamed in flight. There is still more torque on takeoff than on other simulated Spits but it is plausible and not bad if you're ready for it. Overall it is more fun to fly than the past few iterations.

Now, where's that round rudder version ...

August
 
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