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FR North Star - Argonaut BOAC WIP
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mike_cyul
SOH-CM-2025
Thanks, everybody. 
Aharon, yes, there are a couple of threads about the Heron (and now a small one about the Argonaut) over on the Classic British Flight Sim forums, if those are the one's you're referring to. Otherwise, I've been simming since 2000, so undoubtedly the name will show up here and there!
Mike
Aharon, yes, there are a couple of threads about the Heron (and now a small one about the Argonaut) over on the Classic British Flight Sim forums, if those are the one's you're referring to. Otherwise, I've been simming since 2000, so undoubtedly the name will show up here and there!Mike
Thanks, everybody.
Mike
Hello MIKE_CYUL, Flight Replicas Good Aircraft Transall C-160 Please make a new payware project??? new project payware PLEASE for FSX SP2:Acc/P3Dv3/FSX:SE !!!!!!
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mike_cyul
SOH-CM-2025
No, not cancelled at all - it just takes time to do everything. It can take a year to do an aircraft, and although some projects run concurrently, there are no short cuts. The North Star is very close to complete, the De Havilland/Hawker Dominie isn't that far behind. Once they are out, then it's full throttle the Bulldog (all the data and drawings are ready) and other projects.
And thanks, Jens-Ole.
Mike
No, not cancelled at all - it just takes time to do everything. It can take a year to do an aircraft, and although some projects run concurrently, there are no short cuts. The North Star is very close to complete, the De Havilland/Hawker Dominie isn't that far behind. Once they are out, then it's full throttle the Bulldog (all the data and drawings are ready) and other projects.
And thanks, Jens-Ole.
Mike
OK!!!! Saab 2000 How is it? Mike_Cyul You Please make this Project for Saab 2000 Make A Request!!!!
Tjsdn
I'm all for enthusiasm Tjsdn but do you really have to ask for new models on each thread you join?? There's a great PM system here where your requests could be made without taking every thread off topic!!
ATB
DaveB
Hey, why are you doing this to me you?
Tjsdn
I'm all for enthusiasm Tjsdn but do you really have to ask for new models on each thread you join?? There's a great PM system here where your requests could be made without taking every thread off topic!!
ATB
DaveB
DaveB, Stop talking to me!
Tjsdn
What the..
ATB
DaveB
That's what? do you ask me? ... ??
Roger
Senior Administrator
I knew I had seen this aircraft before and it's just come to me today. Back in 1967 I was 15 and I lived just a few miles from Stockport UK. On Sunday 4 June 1967 my friends and I heard there had been a crash close to Stockport town centre, so we got on our bikes and headed over there. I quote from Wikipedia:
"Investigators with the Accidents Investigation Branch (AIB) determined that the aircraft had run out of fuel because of a previously unrecognised flaw in the model's fuel system. The Argonaut has eight fuel tanks connected in pairs by selector valves. Each pair of tanks feeds one engine, but there is also a cross-feed system whereby fuel from any pair of tanks can be routed through the system if necessary. It was found that if the selector valves in the cross-feed system were a few degrees off the normal "off" setting, fuel could inadvertently bleed through the valves. This could make one pair of tanks empty completely in flight, and the engine fed by the empty tanks would stop. The selectors were designed to "click" when they were set correctly, but the click could not be heard unless the pilot leaned forward in his seat, an impossibility, as Argonaut pilots had to wear snug shoulder harnesses during flight. This tendency had been noticed by pilots of other Argonauts before, but neither British Midland nor the other airlines using the Argonaut (Trans-Canada Airlines and Canadian Pacific Airlines) had reported it to the manufacturer or to British Midland. Without this information, the AIB believed that it would have been extremely difficult for the pilots of G-ALHG to determine the exact nature of the emergency.
A fuel problem had been noted on the aircraft five days earlier, this only came to light 4 months after the crash. A third contributory factor was tiredness: the Captain had been on duty for nearly 13 hours. This was within legal and operational limits but the inquiry noted that he had made several errors in repeating ATC messages."
I am still very much looking forward to the release of Mike's Argonaut but it now has some history for me way back in the 60's.
"Investigators with the Accidents Investigation Branch (AIB) determined that the aircraft had run out of fuel because of a previously unrecognised flaw in the model's fuel system. The Argonaut has eight fuel tanks connected in pairs by selector valves. Each pair of tanks feeds one engine, but there is also a cross-feed system whereby fuel from any pair of tanks can be routed through the system if necessary. It was found that if the selector valves in the cross-feed system were a few degrees off the normal "off" setting, fuel could inadvertently bleed through the valves. This could make one pair of tanks empty completely in flight, and the engine fed by the empty tanks would stop. The selectors were designed to "click" when they were set correctly, but the click could not be heard unless the pilot leaned forward in his seat, an impossibility, as Argonaut pilots had to wear snug shoulder harnesses during flight. This tendency had been noticed by pilots of other Argonauts before, but neither British Midland nor the other airlines using the Argonaut (Trans-Canada Airlines and Canadian Pacific Airlines) had reported it to the manufacturer or to British Midland. Without this information, the AIB believed that it would have been extremely difficult for the pilots of G-ALHG to determine the exact nature of the emergency.
A fuel problem had been noted on the aircraft five days earlier, this only came to light 4 months after the crash. A third contributory factor was tiredness: the Captain had been on duty for nearly 13 hours. This was within legal and operational limits but the inquiry noted that he had made several errors in repeating ATC messages."
I am still very much looking forward to the release of Mike's Argonaut but it now has some history for me way back in the 60's.
