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French West Africa Carrier Operations, 1940

F222

John,

"Menace" was September of 1940: http://www.aircraft-insignia.com/page9.htm

2 F222 de l'escadrille 10E étaient à Dakar en Juillet 1940 , ils avaient été retirés en septembre pour rejoindre le groupe de transport GCI.15 .

F222 GBI.15 France 1939 40
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F22 esc 141 Indochine 1940
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F222 .2 GBI.15 France 1940
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F222. 10E (aéronavale) 1940
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Reply...

Dominique,

Are those for the Bismarck13 model? If so, could you please upload them?
 
Reply...

Good evening,

Had to do a little .dp tweak on the Blackburn Skua to allow me to drop leaflets over the city. Worked out pretty well if you ask me...it's a shame you can't throw open the back canopy and let them waft out in a stream, but this works.
 
Andrew,

Using Dombrals pics to supplement the b&w photos I have found across the web, I've done a few more versions for Bismark's Farman F222. I can't find anything that matches the light grey scheme apart from a single pic of a post Nth Africa campaign hack, so I've kept with the chocolate brown base paint & simply changed the markings to suit the period.

Started looking at the dp file (to use french bombs, & leaflets), plus the airfile (overweight, too much fuel, engines too powerful - needs a lot of work IMHO).
 
Reply...

John,

That looks superb! I have not looked at the airfile yet, I usually do that last. I too have been making steady progress...I just finished the four Menace missions today, (one British and three Vichy French) and am writing the mission descriptions for them now. I am going to take two of the Vichy French missions and turn them around to make them British missions, so that way it will be a three-three set.

For Catapult, they are all Vichy French, so what I was planning on was to flip all five of those around and make them British as well. The end result will be a set of sixteen missions, eight on each side.

I also have formally requested Stuart277 to create a new model of the HMS Hermes.

"title_string"=Menace (FAA) - Giving the French a chance
"summary_string"=Listen up! General De Gaulle does not want to spill the blood of Frenchmen for Frenchmen, so you are being sent there first to paper Dakar with leaflets to see if we can convince its citizens to surrender peacefully. You'll drop leaflets over the Richelieu as a second flight papers the city. If successful, we might be able to take the city without firing a shot!
"objective_string"=On the morning of 23 September 1940, aircraft of the Fleet Air Arm flew over the port city of Dakar to drop propaganda leaflets, hoping to induce its citizens to surrender to the Brits without conflict. This overture was rejected by the Vichy French, who were attacked by the British at Mers-el-Kebir on 3 July, and at Dakar on 8 July. Following this effort, Free French aircraft departed Ark Royal and landed at Ouakam, but they were immediately taken prisoner. These actions led to full conflict between Vichy French forces and the British/Free French forces now intent on capturing the city.
"intelligence_string"=Once airborne, you'll come onshore just northeast of the city & head out over the harbour to release leaflets above the Richelieu while a second flight papers the city. You do not want to miss; leaflets can be very hard to read if they're soaked! You'll see an 'atta boy' message if you release them over the Richelieu. Once finished, head back to the Ark Royal, and await further orders. We don't know if Vichy French forces will resist, so watch out for flak and fighters, just in case.
"player_aircraft_name_string"=Blackburn Skua MkII 806Sqd L3011
"airfield_string"="HMS Ark Royal"

"title_string"=Menace (Vichy) - Reconnoitring British ships
"summary_string"=Attention! We are aware that a substantial British force is stationed just offshore, & they just fired on the destroyer L'Audacieux! Take off as quickly as possible, & with fighter escort, reconnoitre the Royal Navy, reporting back to Dakar headquarters on the composition & number of all enemy vessels in the area. This will be a very dangerous mission, so do your best to get the intel and get back alive!
"objective_string"=There isn't a specific record of a mission like this during the battle, however it's very likely that the Vichy French would have sent up either landplanes or seaplanes to reconnotire the area around Dakar to get a full picture of British strength. Given the size of the harbor & quantity of French seaplanes anchored there, it's far more likely that seaplanes would be utilized for this type of a recce mission, especially early in the war.
"intelligence_string"=After taking off, you'll clear the harbor and pick up the fighter escort, then sweep south-southwest & then south to check for any sign of British ships before turning northwest for a short leg prior to returning to Dakar. We believe these are the most likely places the British will be. If you do see the British fleet, report on the number & type before continuing. Be sure you watch out for heavy flak, especially over the larger enemy ships! Good luck!
"player_aircraft_name_string"=Loire 130 HS1
"airfield_string"=Senegal - Dakar (Seaplane)

"title_string"=Menace (Vichy) - Intercept the Fleet Air Arm
"summary_string"=To your fighters! We know the British fleet is still lurking nearby, so you will fly a patrol around the city & harbor area looking for any British aircraft trying to sneak in & raid the port or the Richelieu. If you do see any enemy aircraft, engage 'em and try to prevent any bombers from reaching the city. Let's show the British their efforts are futile!
"objective_string"=Documentation on any British aerial attacks during the period from 23-25 September are sketchy, but any assaults they made would have been done with Skuas and Swordfish which were aboard the HMS Ark Royal during this time period. Likewise, there is little evidence of any French interceptions, but after the action against the HMS Hermes in July, Vichy French officials chose to provide them with modern Martin 167 Marylands and P-36 Hawks at Dakar to beef up the defenses there.
"intelligence_string"=After getting airborne, you will fly a short route around the harbor, looking for any sign of British aircraft. Any British air strikes are likely to come from the west or southwest, where we believe that the British fleet is likely hiding. Focus on shooting down any Swordfish first; they will probably try and attack the Richelieu again, and we don't want her to be damaged any further. When the enemy is destroyed or you exhaust your ammo, break off & return to Ouakam airfield. Good luck!
"player_aircraft_name_string"=FDG2_P-36A Dakar 1940
"airfield_string"=Senegal - Dakar (Ouakam)
 
France Angleterre 1940

John,

That looks superb! I have not looked at the airfile yet, I usually do that last. I too have been making steady progress...I just finished the four Menace missions today, (one British and three Vichy French) and am writing the mission descriptions for them now. I am going to take two of the Vichy French missions and turn them around to make them British missions, so that way it will be a three-three set.

For Catapult, they are all Vichy French, so what I was planning on was to flip all five of those around and make them British as well. The end result will be a set of sixteen missions, eight on each side.

I also have formally requested Stuart277 to create a new model of the HMS Hermes.

"title_string"=Menace (FAA) - Giving the French a chance
"summary_string"=Listen up! General De Gaulle does not want to spill the blood of Frenchmen for Frenchmen, so you are being sent there first to paper Dakar with leaflets to see if we can convince its citizens to surrender peacefully. You'll drop leaflets over the Richelieu as a second flight papers the city. If successful, we might be able to take the city without firing a shot!
"objective_string"=On the morning of 23 September 1940, aircraft of the Fleet Air Arm flew over the port city of Dakar to drop propaganda leaflets, hoping to induce its citizens to surrender to the Brits without conflict. This overture was rejected by the Vichy French, who were attacked by the British at Mers-el-Kebir on 3 July, and at Dakar on 8 July. Following this effort, Free French aircraft departed Ark Royal and landed at Ouakam, but they were immediately taken prisoner. These actions led to full conflict between Vichy French forces and the British/Free French forces now intent on capturing the city.
"intelligence_string"=Once airborne, you'll come onshore just northeast of the city & head out over the harbour to release leaflets above the Richelieu while a second flight papers the city. You do not want to miss; leaflets can be very hard to read if they're soaked! You'll see an 'atta boy' message if you release them over the Richelieu. Once finished, head back to the Ark Royal, and await further orders. We don't know if Vichy French forces will resist, so watch out for flak and fighters, just in case.
"player_aircraft_name_string"=Blackburn Skua MkII 806Sqd L3011
"airfield_string"="HMS Ark Royal"

"title_string"=Menace (Vichy) - Reconnoitring British ships
"summary_string"=Attention! We are aware that a substantial British force is stationed just offshore, & they just fired on the destroyer L'Audacieux! Take off as quickly as possible, & with fighter escort, reconnoitre the Royal Navy, reporting back to Dakar headquarters on the composition & number of all enemy vessels in the area. This will be a very dangerous mission, so do your best to get the intel and get back alive!
"objective_string"=There isn't a specific record of a mission like this during the battle, however it's very likely that the Vichy French would have sent up either landplanes or seaplanes to reconnotire the area around Dakar to get a full picture of British strength. Given the size of the harbor & quantity of French seaplanes anchored there, it's far more likely that seaplanes would be utilized for this type of a recce mission, especially early in the war.
"intelligence_string"=After taking off, you'll clear the harbor and pick up the fighter escort, then sweep south-southwest & then south to check for any sign of British ships before turning northwest for a short leg prior to returning to Dakar. We believe these are the most likely places the British will be. If you do see the British fleet, report on the number & type before continuing. Be sure you watch out for heavy flak, especially over the larger enemy ships! Good luck!
"player_aircraft_name_string"=Loire 130 HS1
"airfield_string"=Senegal - Dakar (Seaplane)

"title_string"=Menace (Vichy) - Intercept the Fleet Air Arm
"summary_string"=To your fighters! We know the British fleet is still lurking nearby, so you will fly a patrol around the city & harbor area looking for any British aircraft trying to sneak in & raid the port or the Richelieu. If you do see any enemy aircraft, engage 'em and try to prevent any bombers from reaching the city. Let's show the British their efforts are futile!
"objective_string"=Documentation on any British aerial attacks during the period from 23-25 September are sketchy, but any assaults they made would have been done with Skuas and Swordfish which were aboard the HMS Ark Royal during this time period. Likewise, there is little evidence of any French interceptions, but after the action against the HMS Hermes in July, Vichy French officials chose to provide them with modern Martin 167 Marylands and P-36 Hawks at Dakar to beef up the defenses there.
"intelligence_string"=After getting airborne, you will fly a short route around the harbor, looking for any sign of British aircraft. Any British air strikes are likely to come from the west or southwest, where we believe that the British fleet is likely hiding. Focus on shooting down any Swordfish first; they will probably try and attack the Richelieu again, and we don't want her to be damaged any further. When the enemy is destroyed or you exhaust your ammo, break off & return to Ouakam airfield. Good luck!
"player_aircraft_name_string"=FDG2_P-36A Dakar 1940
"airfield_string"=Senegal - Dakar (Ouakam)

J'attends avec impatience votre interpretation de l'opération Menace , et de l'attaque du Richelieu par les sworfish du HMS Hermes en juillet 1940 . Les nouveaux camouflages du F222 sont excellents . Qu'utilisez vous comme H75 et Martin A167 ?
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Le nouveau HMS Hermes de Stuart277 sera le bien venu , mais personnellement j'attends toujours les Bretagne Lorraine et Cdt Teste .
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Reply...

Dombral,

Here are a few more for you...

"title_string"=Menace (FAA) - Bringing Swordfish to Dakar
"summary_string"=Listen up, chaps! The Vichy French have rejected our peace offer, & sent out reconnaissance planes to chart our ship positions. You'll return the favor by trying to sneak through their air cover & attack the Richelieu! We were successful during the July raid, but the enemy has brought in newer aircraft since then. Let's hope we can repeat our success!
"objective_string"=Documentation on any British aerial attacks during the period from 23-25 September are sketchy, but any assaults they made would have been done with Skuas and Swordfish which were aboard the HMS Ark Royal during this time period. Likewise, there is little evidence of any French interceptions, but after the actions against the HMS Hermes in July, Vichy French officials chose to provide them with modern Martin 167 Marylands and P-36 Hawks at Dakar to beef up the defenses there.
"intelligence_string"=Once airborne, you'll try to protect the Swordfish from any interception. If you are not intercepted, cover their attack runs & come back with them. If you are intercepted, do what you can to fend them off while the Swordfish continue on. If the enemy fighters are modern, do your best to engage them. If you can shoot down a couple of enemy fighters, you can have as much rum as you like when you get back to the Ark Royal. Good luck!
"player_aircraft_name_string"=Blackburn Skua MkII 806Sqd L3011
"airfield_string"="HMS Ark Royal"

"title_string"=Menace (FAA) - Protecting your British Fleet
"summary_string"=Get airborne immediately! We've picked up radio transmissions that some Vichy French bombers are coming in, and are targeting our fleet! Climb hard to reach their height, and tear into these bombers before they can release over the fleet! Let's show the Vichy French forces that any continuing show of resistance is ultimately futile! (In this mission, you will fly a Gloster Sea Gladiator, because your Skua is too slow to catch a Martin bomber)
"objective_string"=On 23 September 1940, British vessels off Dakar reported being attacked by Vichy French bombers. These were Martin 167 Marylands, which had been flown in following the raid by the Hermes in July. The bombs largely failed to hit the ships, but they were intercepted by British Skuas. The number of Vichy French bombers in the attack are unknown. The same day, the Free French attempted a troop landing southeast of the city, but this was callled off, & for the next two days, the Brits and Vichy French exchanged fire; the Vichy French lost two subs and the destroyer L'Audacieux, while for the British, the battleships Barham & Resolution were damaged.
"intelligence_string"=Vichy bombers attacking the fleet will likely do so from a height of above three thousand meters. We do not know if there are any fighter escorts with them, but be prepared for that possibility. If you do tangle with any Vichy escort fighters, use your turning ability to defend yourself. If no fighters are present, tear into the bombers and bring down as many as possible. Once you exhaust your ammo, return to the Ark Royal. Good luck!
"player_aircraft_name_string"=Sea Gladiator
"airfield_string"="HMS Ark Royal"

"title_string"=Menace (Vichy) - Pounding the British Fleet
"summary_string"=Get to your bombers! The British have moved their carrier force closer to Dakar to intimidate us, so we'll make them pay for this foolishness! You will depart Thies & lead a flight of Martin Marylands over the enemy fleet to pummel them, inflicting as much damage as possible. Reinforce this message that they will not take this city!
"objective_string"=On 23 September 1940, British vessels off Dakar reported being attacked by Vichy French bombers. These were Martin 167 Marylands, which had been flown in following the raid by the Hermes in July. The bombs largely failed to hit the ships, but they were intercepted by British Skuas. The number of Vichy French bombers in the attack are unknown. The same day, the Free French attempted a troop landing southeast of the city, but this was callled off, & for the next two days, the Brits and Vichy French exchanged fire; the Vichy French lost two subs and the destroyer L'Audacieux, while for the British, the battleships Barham & Resolution were damaged.
"intelligence_string"=A scout plane positioned the British about fifteen kilometers off the coastline. You will rendezvous with the escort near the city and then head out to raid the fleet. Try to score hits on the Ark Royal, but hitting any of the ships will help. The fighter escort should cover your attack. Once completed, turn back for the coast & head toward your base at Thies.
"player_aircraft_name_string"=Martin 167 Maryland (Vichy)
"airfield_string"=Senegal - Dakar (Thies)

En français...

"Title_string" = Menace (FAA) - Apporter Swordfish à Dakar
"Summary_string" = Écoutez, les pilotes! Les Français de Vichy ont rejeté notre offre de paix, et envoyé des avions de reconnaissance pour tracer nos positions de navires. Vous retournerez la faveur en essayant de se faufiler à travers leur couverture et l'attaque aérienne du Richelieu! Nous avons réussi pendant le raid Juillet, mais l'ennemi a apporté dans les nouveaux avions depuis. Espérons que nous pouvons répéter notre succès!
"Objective_string" = Documentation sur les attaques aériennes britanniques pendant la période 23-25 ​​Septembre sont sommaires, mais les agressions qu'ils ont faits aurait été fait avec labbes et Swordfish qui étaient à bord du HMS Ark Royal pendant cette période de temps. De même, il y a peu de preuves de toutes les interceptions françaises, mais après que les actions contre les HMS Hermes en Juillet, les responsables français de Vichy a choisi de leur fournir moderne Martin 167 Marylands et P-36 Hawks à Dakar pour renforcer les défenses là.
"Intelligence_string" = Une fois en vol, vous allez essayer de protéger l'Espadon de toute interception. Si vous n'êtes pas intercepté, couvrir leur attaque court et revenir avec eux. Si vous êtes intercepté, faites ce que vous pouvez pour les repousser alors que le Swordfish continuer sur. Si les combattants ennemis sont modernes, faites de votre mieux pour les engager. Si vous pouvez abattre un couple de combattants ennemis, vous pouvez avoir autant de rhum que vous le souhaitez quand vous revenez à l'Ark Royal. Bonne chance!
"Player_aircraft_name_string" = Blackburn Skua MkII 806Sqd L3011
"Airfield_string" = "HMS Ark Royal"

"Title_string" = Menace (FAA) - Protéger votre flotte britannique
"Summary_string" = Décollez immédiatement! Nous avons ramassé les transmissions radio que certains bombardiers français de Vichy sont à venir dans et ciblons notre flotte! Grimpez dur pour atteindre leur hauteur, et à la déchirure dans ces bombardiers avant de pouvoir libérer sur la flotte! Montrons les forces françaises de Vichy que toute émission continue de la résistance est finalement futile! (Dans cette mission, vous pilotez un Sea Gladiator Gloster, parce que votre Skua est trop lent pour attraper un bombardier Martin)
"Objective_string" = Le 23 Septembre 1940, les navires britanniques au large de Dakar ont déclaré avoir été attaqués par des bombardiers français de Vichy. Ceux-ci étaient Martin 167 Marylands, qui avait été volé dans la suite du raid mené par les Hermes en Juillet. Les bombes largement échoué à frapper les navires, mais ils ont été interceptés par British labbes. Le nombre de bombardiers français de Vichy dans l'attaque sont inconnus. Le même jour, les Français libres a tenté une troupe d'atterrissage sud-est de la ville, mais cela a été callled off, et pour les deux prochains jours, les Britanniques et les Français de Vichy ont échangé des tirs; les Français de Vichy a perdu deux sous-marins et le destroyer L'Audacieux, tandis que pour les Britanniques, les cuirassés Barham & Résolution ont été endommagés.
"Intelligence_string" = bombardiers Vichy attaquent la flotte vont probablement le faire à partir d'une hauteur de trois mille mètres au-dessus. Nous ne savons pas s'il y a des chasseurs d'escorte avec eux, mais être prêts à cette éventualité. Si vous faites enchevêtrement avec tous les chasseurs d'escorte de Vichy, utilisez votre capacité à tourner pour vous défendre. Si aucun des combattants sont présents, se déchirer dans les bombardiers et de faire baisser le plus grand nombre possible. Une fois que vous avez épuisé vos munitions, retournez à l'Ark Royal. Bonne chance!
"Player_aircraft_name_string" = Sea Gladiator
"Airfield_string" = "HMS Ark Royal"

"Title_string" = Menace (Vichy) - Pounding la flotte britannique
"Summary_string" = Apprenez à vos bombardiers! Les Britanniques ont déplacé leur force de transporteur plus près de Dakar pour nous intimider, nous allons donc faire payer pour cette folie! Vous partirez Thies et conduire un vol de Martin Marylands sur la flotte ennemie pour les rouer de coups, infligeant autant de dégâts que possible. Renforcez ce message qu'ils ne prendront pas cette ville!
"Objective_string" = Le 23 Septembre 1940, les navires britanniques au large de Dakar ont déclaré avoir été attaqués par des bombardiers français de Vichy. Ceux-ci étaient Martin 167 Marylands, qui avait été volé dans la suite du raid mené par les Hermes en Juillet. Les bombes largement échoué à frapper les navires, mais ils ont été interceptés par British labbes. Le nombre de bombardiers français de Vichy dans l'attaque sont inconnus. Le même jour, les Français libres a tenté une troupe d'atterrissage sud-est de la ville, mais cela a été callled off, et pour les deux prochains jours, les Britanniques et les Français de Vichy ont échangé des tirs; les Français de Vichy a perdu deux sous-marins et le destroyer L'Audacieux, tandis que pour les Britanniques, les cuirassés Barham & Résolution ont été endommagés.
"Intelligence_string" = Un avion de scout placé les Britanniques une quinzaine de kilomètres au large de la côte. Vous rendez-vous avec l'escorte près de la ville, puis la tête hors de piller la flotte. Essayer de marquer hits de l'Ark Royal, mais de frapper l'un des navires aidera. L'escorte de chasse devrait couvrir votre attaque. Une fois terminé, revenir en arrière pour la côte et la tête vers votre base à Thiès.
"Player_aircraft_name_string" = Martin 167 Maryland (Vichy)
"Airfield_string" = Sénégal - Dakar (Thies)
 
Brewster Buffalo question...

Good morning,

Would we happen to have a ETO Dutch skin for Thicko's Brewster Buffalo? I could use one for a historically-plausible "what-if" I'm doing for the Dakar set.
 
Hi Rami!

As far as I know, all the Dutch Brewsters were delivered to the NEI, starting in March 1941. I don´t think they had any of these planes in the ETO.
 
Reply...

Skylane,

For an understanding of what I'm up to, please look at this thread: http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforu...871-A-few-requests-for-Operation-Menace/page2

Read posts #2, and #5-8.

Essentially, what I am proposing is this: The French aircraft carrier "Bearn" had run to Halifax, Nova Scotia to transfer French gold bouillon reserves and keep it out of German hands. While there, she was loaded up with twenty-seven P-36s for the French Air Force, six Buffaloes for the Belgians, twenty-five Stimson 105s, and forty-four SBC Helldivers. (I will substitute the SB2U Vindicator for these) After the ship left Halifax the Dutch and Germans capitulated or were overrun, so the Bearn went to Martinique, where she remained until 1944.

Now, suppose that she received word about the threat to the French fleet, and raced across the Atlantic. En route, she learns about the Hermes' presence off Dakar and gets there without being detected. In these missions, you would fly the fighters off to land at the two bases near Dakar, while the SB2U Vindicators remain on-board, and your task is to annihilate the Hermes between the carrier force and the fighters and bombers stationed on land.

Given the disparity of forces, the Hermes would be up s*it creek! :very_drunk:
 
In real life, the Buffaloes on the Bearn were meant for Belgium. The skins could wear Belgian camo with hastily applied French cockades to fit your scenario.
 
Reply...

In real life, the Buffaloes on the Bearn were meant for Belgium. The skins could wear Belgian camo with hastily applied French cockades to fit your scenario.

Thudman,

You are absolutely right, they were. Mea Culpa! :encouragement:
 
Dominique,

Where did you find that?? I'm going to start on the "what if" missions today.

in simviation : FS2004 Curtiss SBC-4 Helldiver

by Paul Clawson

j'ai fait la conversion pour CFS2 créé un dp et le nouveau skin pour l'aéronavale française . peut-on le uploader?
 
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