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I thought Alphasim/Virtavia had release a paintkit for their Gloster Meteor , but it seems the didn't. So I had to make one from scratch. Therefore it took a bit longer than expected.
Aluminium dope is always a challenge to paint. I did the best I could, but it looks nice from one angle and horrible from another.
As the Dutch Meteors were mainly flown without belly or wing drop tanks, I have removed them by "alpha-ing" them out.
I think I'm finished, so I will make it a package and upload it soon(ish).
Cheers,
Huub
Aluminium dope is always a challenge to paint. I did the best I could, but it looks nice from one angle and horrible from another.
As the Dutch Meteors were mainly flown without belly or wing drop tanks, I have removed them by "alpha-ing" them out.
I think I'm finished, so I will make it a package and upload it soon(ish).
Cheers,
Huub
Motormouse
SOH-CM-2025
Thanks Huub, in reality the silver finish ( from the factory) was known as High Speed Silver, it was a paint that contained a mix of aluminium oxide and a gloss lacquer.
Haven't seen many good 'in sim representations'
Ttfn
Pete
Mick
SOH-CM-2025
This paint drives me to distraction! I've read that during most of the Golden Age the vast majority of airplanes and virtually all airships throughout the world were painted in it. That's because it reflects solar radiation and protected fabric from deterioration due to ultraviolet light. Today we have colored paints and "coatings" that protect fabric from the sun but in those days only aluminized silver could do it.
Some of you know of my fixation on the aircraft of the U.S. naval services, and they were pretty much all painted in aluminized silver paint and dope, though due to adhesion problems there was a period when metal surfaces were painted gray, using a shade of gray that looked as much like silver as possible until improved paints led to a return to silver metal parts in the mid-thirties.
I've been painting models in that finish for a couple decades now and silver paint and dope still gives me fits. As Pete mentioned, it was made by dumping actual metal - aluminum powder - into the paint or dope as the pigment, giving it a true metallic gleam. In photos it can be distinguished from bare metal mostly by its uniformity, compared to the way bare metal looks a little different on different panels.
The best way to imagine this finish, or actually see it in the real world, is to think of or actually see radiator paint, which is the same thing. Back in the daze of my youth our family home had steam heat with metal radiators in each room and they were painted in aluminized silver paint to best radiate the heat from the steam flowing through them. These radiators were extremely common in the U.S. in those days and are still to be seen in many old houses. I've been told that they were (and may still be) common in the U.K., so perhaps also elsewhere in Europe. If you've seen one of those old radiators, you've seen aluminized silver paint.
It's a challenge on a virtual model. It has to have some reflectivity in order to look metallic, but too much makes it look like bare metal; too little and it looks like gray. I've seen (and sometimes borrowed) many painters' versions of this finish and while some look pretty good, few really seem to capture the look.
Some of you know of my fixation on the aircraft of the U.S. naval services, and they were pretty much all painted in aluminized silver paint and dope, though due to adhesion problems there was a period when metal surfaces were painted gray, using a shade of gray that looked as much like silver as possible until improved paints led to a return to silver metal parts in the mid-thirties.
I've been painting models in that finish for a couple decades now and silver paint and dope still gives me fits. As Pete mentioned, it was made by dumping actual metal - aluminum powder - into the paint or dope as the pigment, giving it a true metallic gleam. In photos it can be distinguished from bare metal mostly by its uniformity, compared to the way bare metal looks a little different on different panels.
The best way to imagine this finish, or actually see it in the real world, is to think of or actually see radiator paint, which is the same thing. Back in the daze of my youth our family home had steam heat with metal radiators in each room and they were painted in aluminized silver paint to best radiate the heat from the steam flowing through them. These radiators were extremely common in the U.S. in those days and are still to be seen in many old houses. I've been told that they were (and may still be) common in the U.K., so perhaps also elsewhere in Europe. If you've seen one of those old radiators, you've seen aluminized silver paint.
It's a challenge on a virtual model. It has to have some reflectivity in order to look metallic, but too much makes it look like bare metal; too little and it looks like gray. I've seen (and sometimes borrowed) many painters' versions of this finish and while some look pretty good, few really seem to capture the look.
Motormouse
SOH-CM-2025
High speed silver sounds much better than aluminium dope. After your remark I have been reading about this paint, but this must really have been a high gloss paint.
Cheers,
Huub
Oh its a horrible paint to work with Huub; back when I was just starting out in RAF it was used on internal areas (inside of engine bays and maintenance bays / hatches ) on the Canberra's I was working on
ttfn
Pete
As the model isn't glossy or reflective, you have to live with a greyish repaint, which I tried to make look like aluminium paint . As far as I know the aircraft currently in the Dutch museums are now painted with modern aluminium paint. The PH-PBY, the Dutch Catalina which has gone to the Collins Foundation was even sprayed with an aluminium coloured epoxy paint.
Enough about the paint! The repaint is available in the library! Get it while it is still warm.
Cheers,
Huub
. As far as I know the aircraft currently in the Dutch museums are now painted with modern aluminium paint. The PH-PBY, the Dutch Catalina which has gone to the Collins Foundation was even sprayed with an aluminium coloured epoxy paint.Enough about the paint! The repaint is available in the library! Get it while it is still warm.
Cheers,
Huub
ian elliot
SOH-CM-2025
Very nice Huub, good to see the Alpha Meatbox getting some new clothes 
Mick
SOH-CM-2025
As the model isn't glossy or reflective, you have to live with a greyish repaint, which I tried to make look like aluminium paint
Enough about the paint! The repaint is available in the library! Get it while it is still warm.
Cheers,
Huub
Looks good! Nice work Huub!
The Meteor in camouflage scheme is now available in the library as well. It will most likely be my last repaint before the end of the year.
As the original aircraft has a belly tank in the picture above, I gave this one a belly tank as well. I think the Netherlands are too small to justify the extra tanks under the wings.
A funny thing, I had never realised before I started to read about this aircraft, but until the arrival of the Lockheed F104-G Starfighter the Dutch Air Force was more or less divided in to major sections. The Air Defence Command (Commando Luchtverdediging) which was very British orientated, organised like the RAF and flew with British jets, and the Tactical Air Command (Commando Tactische Luchtstrijdkrachten) which flew American ground support aircraft and was organised much more like the USAAF.
Cheers,
Huub
As the original aircraft has a belly tank in the picture above, I gave this one a belly tank as well. I think the Netherlands are too small to justify the extra tanks under the wings.
A funny thing, I had never realised before I started to read about this aircraft, but until the arrival of the Lockheed F104-G Starfighter the Dutch Air Force was more or less divided in to major sections. The Air Defence Command (Commando Luchtverdediging) which was very British orientated, organised like the RAF and flew with British jets, and the Tactical Air Command (Commando Tactische Luchtstrijdkrachten) which flew American ground support aircraft and was organised much more like the USAAF.
Cheers,
Huub
Motormouse
SOH-CM-2025
Hell(Cat) in the Pacific
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Again , thanks for filling the gap in my hangar Huub and Andrew!
ttfn
Pete
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Again , thanks for filling the gap in my hangar Huub and Andrew!
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Pete
