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FSX native AVRO Tutor

Postbaer61

Postbaer61

Bluebear
I want to let you know, that i have converted Nigel's great AVRO 621 Tutor models to FSX native format,
which means, that it will work also in P3Dv4+

Nigel gave again his kind permission, to publish my conversions,
until he had done his own FSX Native version.

So here we go again

The conversions

https://www.mediafire.com/file/lu4m8...Part1.zip/file

https://www.mediafire.com/file/cf7yf...Part2.zip/file

I have also updated the FSX native 621 and Trainer models
with a new smaller navlight effect, the new models have to
redownloaded .

https://www.mediafire.com/file/89wao..._over.zip/file

https://www.mediafire.com/file/prhth..._over.zip/file

Cheers
Ulrich
 
Thank you very much Nigel and Ulrich! Again!!

One small blip in Ulrich's Tutor download (although it might just be a corrupt download on my part), but easily fixed:
the model.cowl cfg is incomplete, it only says:

[models]
normal=cowl

As a result, none of the planes using model=cowl will show. It should read:

[models]
normal=cowl_FSXn
interior=cowl_FSXn_int

Doing this small change, and all the model=cowl planes show just fine. Just in case anyone else is having this problem.

Thank you once again, these planes are just spectacular in P3Dv4.

-RobM
 
Thank you very much Nigel and Ulrich!

I just came to report the cowl model problem and solution but RobM got here before me.

Great Aircraft!
 
Arrgh, it seems it was a little too late yesterday.
Sorry for the circumstances, i have just correct this bug.
Thank you for the hint, Rob :wavey:
 
Sorry, something else with the model.cowl planes came up. I took a bit longer flight, and it looks like in the model.cowl, the exterior model "cowl_FSXn" may need a bit more fixing. While the model=cowl planes now appear, some of the exterior animations, like the ailerons and
the rudder, don't work. They do on the other models I've tried.

Thanks again for all your work Ulrich. It's just little fixes.

-RobM
 
RobM said:
Sorry, something else with the model.cowl planes came up. I took a bit longer flight, and it looks like in the model.cowl, the exterior model "cowl_FSXn" may need a bit more fixing. While the model=cowl planes now appear, some of the exterior animations, like the ailerons and the rudder, don't work. They do on the other models I've tried.

Thanks again for all your work Ulrich. It's just little fixes.

-RobM
Click to expand...

..and I just restarted the sim and all the model=cowl plane animations now seem to be working the way they should. Oh well <scratches head>.
maybe it was just something in my controls, or the model with the fixes just needed reloading.

Thanks again - Rob

PS: the little details on this plane, especially when I zoom in close, just keep blowing me away...
 
Hi all ,
I have attached the missing red and green nav lights now to all
native models.
You can redownload the files, to get the updates.

The pilot head movement have to be complet new animated,
for a correct funktion, so the current state represents a compromise.
Also the vc lighting don't work very well in P3Dv4,
so i have use the fx_vclight.fx variant in the aircraft.cfg.
As it is, is the best result i could get, so we have to live with that compromiss, until Nigel brings the real native version.
I can only recommend to use Nigel's port over models for FSX and P3Dv1-3,
my converted FSX native models are intended primarily for P3Dv4 users,
who will not be able to enjoy Nigel's Avros until he releases his FSX original native models.
I hope, i have corrected the badest bugs now .
Thanks for your Patience

Ulrich
 
Thank you very much Nigel and Ulrich.
A little correction in the definition of camera (see aircraft.cfg), because Minimum Camera Zoom cannot be zero

[CameraDefinition.3]
InitialZoom = -0.5 should be InitialZoom = 0.5

[CameraDefinition.001]
InitialZoom = -0.3 should be InitialZoom = 0.3


Avro_Compass.xml request compass_popup_highlight.bmp in line 27, but
Error: Missing gauge image file: NR_621\compass_popup_highlight.bmp
I find it :

http://royalefrenchnavy.restauravia.fr/Test/__compass_popup_highlight.zip


Best regards
 
Hi all,
I downloaded the 2 new models with nav lights activated.
However, the lights are not visible because the effect names end with an "s"

This causes an error in P3D
error = Failed to load visual effect "fx_navgres"

So, I copied the effect "fx_navgre.fx" and renamed "fx_navgres.fx" to get the nav light lit

Also, both models have their throttle control set at 4% idle. Which makes it move forward.

Best regards

Jean
 
D5turbi said:
Hi all,
I downloaded the 2 new models with nav lights activated.
However, the lights are not visible because the effect names end with an "s"

This causes an error in P3D
error = Failed to load visual effect "fx_navgres"

So, I copied the effect "fx_navgre.fx" and renamed "fx_navgres.fx" to get the nav light lit

Also, both models have their throttle control set at 4% idle. Which makes it move forward.

Best regards

Jean
Click to expand...

Hello Jean,
Thanks for report.
I had assumed it was an default effect file.
Here the effect files which i used

View attachment Avro_FSXnative_Effects.zip

Will be attached in the next update ( last update was 22.01.2019 at 6 p.m )

Ulrich
 
Hello Ulrich,
Sorry if I come back with new errors detected by P3D v4.4.
After manipulating all the commands and starting the engine, there are still some problems:

1 / error = Failed to load visual effect "fx_avro621_startup_v1"

2 / Four errors resulting from the compilation of the mdl file. It seems that the compilation removes the spaces in the statements if {1} els {0} by replacing them with if {1} els {0}.
(file attached)

3 / The throttle is not at idle but at 4%. The parking brake must be applied to stop the aircraft.

Best regards

Jean
 

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D5turbi said:
Hello Ulrich,
Sorry if I come back with new errors detected by P3D v4.4.
After manipulating all the commands and starting the engine, there are still some problems:

1 / error = Failed to load visual effect "fx_avro621_startup_v1"

2 / Four errors resulting from the compilation of the mdl file. It seems that the compilation removes the spaces in the statements if {1} els {0} by replacing them with if {1} els {0}.
(file attached)

3 / The throttle is not at idle but at 4%. The parking brake must be applied to stop the aircraft.

Best regards

Jean
Click to expand...

Hello Jean,

regarding point 1

the missing fx_avro621_startup_v1 effect
can be fixed by changing the effect Settings
in the _AVRO_621 aircraft.cfg file.

replace

startup = fx_avro621_startup_v1

with

startup = fx_engstrt

like in the other Avro's models.
There was no effects files in the FSX port over Versions.

regarding point 2

I had a look into the modeldef.XML of the avro's and found nothing unusual with the magnetos settings,
but i'm no XML expert, so the author of the custom XML files could help here more.

regarding point 3

I have noticed too, that the throttle have its idle by 4%, but there are also a custom throttle animation,
which is specific and the XML author can sure tell us why it is.

I will change the start effect entry with the next update.
Thank you.

Ulrich
 
Postbaer61 said:
Hello Jean,

regarding point 2

I had a look into the modeldef.XML of the avro's and found nothing unusual with the magnetos settings,
but i'm no XML expert, so the author of the custom XML files could help here more.

Ulrich
Click to expand...


Hello Ulrich,

Yes, actually, the code is correct in the modeldef.xml.

It is at the time of compilation that the error may be created.

However, it is not a problem since it does not affect the operation of the magnetos switches.

thank you again for your availability and for the solutions that you bring to our requests.

Jean
 
mpni said:
Thank you very much Nigel and Ulrich.
A little correction in the definition of camera (see aircraft.cfg), because Minimum Camera Zoom cannot be zero

[CameraDefinition.3]
InitialZoom = -0.5 should be InitialZoom = 0.5

[CameraDefinition.001]
InitialZoom = -0.3 should be InitialZoom = 0.3


Avro_Compass.xml request compass_popup_highlight.bmp in line 27, but
Error: Missing gauge image file: NR_621\compass_popup_highlight.bmp
I find it :

http://royalefrenchnavy.restauravia.fr/Test/__compass_popup_highlight.zip


Best regards
Click to expand...

mpni: Thank YOU Sir :)
 
Postbaer61 said:
Hello Jean,

regarding point 1

the missing fx_avro621_startup_v1 effect
can be fixed by changing the effect Settings
in the _AVRO_621 aircraft.cfg file.

replace

startup = fx_avro621_startup_v1

with

startup = fx_engstrt

like in the other Avro's models.
There was no effects files in the FSX port over Versions.

regarding point 2

I had a look into the modeldef.XML of the avro's and found nothing unusual with the magnetos settings,
but i'm no XML expert, so the author of the custom XML files could help here more.

regarding point 3

I have noticed too, that the throttle have its idle by 4%, but there are also a custom throttle animation,
which is specific and the XML author can sure tell us why it is.

I will change the start effect entry with the next update.
Thank you.

Ulrich
Click to expand...

Correct, in the aircraft.cfg the effect 'fx_avro621_startup_v1' was an experimental effect which I decided against, and therefore commented out.

Ulrich; thank you for highlighting the correct effect:

startup = fx_engstrt

which is a stock effect in FS2004 and FSX.
 
nigel richards said:
Correct, in the aircraft.cfg the effect 'fx_avro621_startup_v1' was an experimental effect which I decided against, and therefore commented out.

Ulrich; thank you for highlighting the correct effect:

startup = fx_engstrt

which is a stock effect in FS2004 and FSX.
Click to expand...

Hi
If you want to use it with P3Dv4 we must add a .fx at the end..
startup = fx_engstrt.fx

​
​Regards
 
Re the Tutor rolling on start up with it's minimum 4% throttle setting, the 621 also has a minimum 4% throttle setting, but doesn't roll on
start up, and I think I see why. The 621 has a smaller engine, 5 cylinders with max 160 hp vs the Tutor's 7 cylinders with max 245 rpm,
according to the aircrafts' cfg's. But both have a minimum throttle setting of 4%. The result is that the 621 loads with it's idle at about
6900 rpm, while the Tutor loads with it's idle at about 7900 rpm. So I guess hence the Tutor's rolling on start up.

Just to see what would happen, I reduced the Tutor's min_throttle_limit from 0.004000 to .002000, and the plane now loads with a minimum
idle of about 6900 rpm, and no more rolling.

But I didn't look closely at what happens to the throttle animation. I'll have to go back and do that.

Thanks again Nigel and Ulrich for bringing such a great plane to FSX and P3Dv4.

- RobM
 
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